Kids shouldn’t race Supercross

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TalinH112 wrote:
  This is all I could find so far. 

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This is all I could find so far. 

1bobbylane wrote:

According to his IG he made it to WV and podiumed. Crazy kids. 

Yep! What a badass

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Some of you all act like these kids have never crashed that hard before. If they would have all been crashing constantly then yeah no business...

Some of you all act like these kids have never crashed that hard before. If they would have all been crashing constantly then yeah no business being out there. 

I'm sure the kids who raced it have a different opinion. They probably had a blast and if they could, they'd do it again. 

I’m going to be very clear, the kind of crashes produced by the jumps on this course are the kind that leave people paralyzed. Due to the steep landings on the “supercross” style course last night there is a high probability of endowing when you case with your front wheel. This is what we saw last night, no doubt these kids are tough, resilient, talented as all hell! That Richards kid is an animal, I am beyond happy that he is ok and was able to race today. I’m not a pussy and neither are my kids, I don’t condone coddling of any kind. I am just saying that the circumstances presented to the kids racing last night were dangerous and I am glad Vincent Wey and Canyon Richards are ok but I would like to see this kind of racing reserved for bigger bikes and older kids. 

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9/17/2023 9:02am

It really was just that one jump most kids were having trouble with. I saw on ig before the race a video of like 20 kids casing the shit out of it in practice. All they had to do was fix that one jump a bit and it would have been fine. 

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9/17/2023 9:09am
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Yes....lets coddle the few remaining kids whose parents don't keep in a protective bubble....

 

While I agree somewhat with the principle of your post, I’ve seen far too many parents who pushed their kids not for the kids’ benefit, but their own. Too many parents whose greatest achievement was lettering in high school football that try to live their dreams through their kids. I know one who wouldn’t let his kid come in for lunch until he jumped something on their track that another friend (a legit Vet Intermediate) was sketched out by. The kid was riding an 80 at the time and was a winning 80 beginner at best.

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9/17/2023 9:26am

I am not sure about the obstacles and the size of the bikes.  However, a lot of sports put young people in high pressure situations.  Take a look at Olympic sports, that pressure makes this look like a walk in the park.  Televised and the whole world is watching.  And don't start with the danger factor, take a look at the history of some of the gymnastic sports, brutal also.  To me the mental damage comes from behind the scenes "camps"  some are good some are terrible.  Not the stage so much.

 

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Kid was out cold 12hrs ago. This is not something we should be applauding 

Hard agree here. Poor parenting.

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I’m going to be very clear, the kind of crashes produced by the jumps on this course are the kind that leave people paralyzed. Due to...

I’m going to be very clear, the kind of crashes produced by the jumps on this course are the kind that leave people paralyzed. Due to the steep landings on the “supercross” style course last night there is a high probability of endowing when you case with your front wheel. This is what we saw last night, no doubt these kids are tough, resilient, talented as all hell! That Richards kid is an animal, I am beyond happy that he is ok and was able to race today. I’m not a pussy and neither are my kids, I don’t condone coddling of any kind. I am just saying that the circumstances presented to the kids racing last night were dangerous and I am glad Vincent Wey and Canyon Richards are ok but I would like to see this kind of racing reserved for bigger bikes and older kids. 

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It should’ve been +45 or 50+ 125 big purse. The Midwest is stacked with fast vet riders. Too many too list but I,ll list a couple. Current 125 rider riding a 125 at LL Marc from Wi. Finished 15 in 45,50.  Hoffmaster, Jerominski, Jr Jackson, Brandon Bartz, etc all from IL.  They would hv put a thousands more in the stands.  Chad Johnson Wi. Still fast. Eron Ezerins Wi. I,m sure could fly yet. They all raced AX, some did SX, Nationals, made great money racing Fri night Lake Geneva then Byron Sunday or Aztalan. 

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I’m going to be very clear, the kind of crashes produced by the jumps on this course are the kind that leave people paralyzed. Due to...

I’m going to be very clear, the kind of crashes produced by the jumps on this course are the kind that leave people paralyzed. Due to the steep landings on the “supercross” style course last night there is a high probability of endowing when you case with your front wheel. This is what we saw last night, no doubt these kids are tough, resilient, talented as all hell! That Richards kid is an animal, I am beyond happy that he is ok and was able to race today. I’m not a pussy and neither are my kids, I don’t condone coddling of any kind. I am just saying that the circumstances presented to the kids racing last night were dangerous and I am glad Vincent Wey and Canyon Richards are ok but I would like to see this kind of racing reserved for bigger bikes and older kids. 

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Yeah that is my whole point.

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9/17/2023 10:28am

People TELLING me what I should and should not applaud.... 😂

Weedge's post was straight good news when I saw it this morning. It didn't look good and the only thing I had heard last night was a possible broken collarbone....

Offering your condemnation and judgement as to a complete stranger's parenting, in a public forum, might not be a good example of wisdom in action. Maybe? 

It's almost like some people truly think other people actually care about their negative opinions. Almost.

Is that possible? 😂

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9/17/2023 10:37am

Glad he’s ok and was able to race today. Thank God it happened while he was racing and wearing all of his gear. Pretty sure I’ve seen videos of this kid hucking SX triples on a Surron in street clothes, shoes and a BMX helmet. 

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9/17/2023 11:08am
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Yes....lets coddle the few remaining kids whose parents don't keep in a protective bubble....

 

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While I agree somewhat with the principle of your post, I’ve seen far too many parents who pushed their kids not for the kids’ benefit, but...

While I agree somewhat with the principle of your post, I’ve seen far too many parents who pushed their kids not for the kids’ benefit, but their own. Too many parents whose greatest achievement was lettering in high school football that try to live their dreams through their kids. I know one who wouldn’t let his kid come in for lunch until he jumped something on their track that another friend (a legit Vet Intermediate) was sketched out by. The kid was riding an 80 at the time and was a winning 80 beginner at best.

Absolutely agree on the parents who push too hard trying to relive their own glory or punish kids for not performing.   That is bad parenting. 

...but for someone to say kids shouldn't race Supercross is ridiculous.   These kids are the future of the sport.    These first two SMX tracks have been some of the safest tracks I've seen in a long time.  All while keeping the racing exciting and fun to watch. 

I'll wager most of these kids could run circles around many of the adults on this forum. 

 

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It should’ve been +45 or 50+ 125 big purse. The Midwest is stacked with fast vet riders. Too many too list but I,ll list a couple...

It should’ve been +45 or 50+ 125 big purse. The Midwest is stacked with fast vet riders. Too many too list but I,ll list a couple. Current 125 rider riding a 125 at LL Marc from Wi. Finished 15 in 45,50.  Hoffmaster, Jerominski, Jr Jackson, Brandon Bartz, etc all from IL.  They would hv put a thousands more in the stands.  Chad Johnson Wi. Still fast. Eron Ezerins Wi. I,m sure could fly yet. They all raced AX, some did SX, Nationals, made great money racing Fri night Lake Geneva then Byron Sunday or Aztalan. 

One day that phone will ring with a factory 125 ride lined up, profeshenal. I believe in you. One day…

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It should’ve been +45 or 50+ 125 big purse. The Midwest is stacked with fast vet riders. Too many too list but I,ll list a couple...

It should’ve been +45 or 50+ 125 big purse. The Midwest is stacked with fast vet riders. Too many too list but I,ll list a couple. Current 125 rider riding a 125 at LL Marc from Wi. Finished 15 in 45,50.  Hoffmaster, Jerominski, Jr Jackson, Brandon Bartz, etc all from IL.  They would hv put a thousands more in the stands.  Chad Johnson Wi. Still fast. Eron Ezerins Wi. I,m sure could fly yet. They all raced AX, some did SX, Nationals, made great money racing Fri night Lake Geneva then Byron Sunday or Aztalan. 

Are you serious?  Talk about bodies littered everywhere, at least the kids bounce up.  

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It should’ve been +45 or 50+ 125 big purse. The Midwest is stacked with fast vet riders. Too many too list but I,ll list a couple...

It should’ve been +45 or 50+ 125 big purse. The Midwest is stacked with fast vet riders. Too many too list but I,ll list a couple. Current 125 rider riding a 125 at LL Marc from Wi. Finished 15 in 45,50.  Hoffmaster, Jerominski, Jr Jackson, Brandon Bartz, etc all from IL.  They would hv put a thousands more in the stands.  Chad Johnson Wi. Still fast. Eron Ezerins Wi. I,m sure could fly yet. They all raced AX, some did SX, Nationals, made great money racing Fri night Lake Geneva then Byron Sunday or Aztalan. 

crusher773 wrote:

Are you serious?  Talk about bodies littered everywhere, at least the kids bounce up.  

Haha That would be awesome.  I would huck the finish line jump.  Make a far outside line in the corner b4 it.   Base of the ramp click 4th & hold it wo shoot for the sky then old school brake tap & hope I get it rt. Or the pull up on the bars then push the bars away using the secret heal in the sub  frame lift the rear end technique.  The 3 big doubles I might get into trouble tho. Ovr jump the 1st one & whiskey throttle the next 2.  To take out the frame work for the Monster sign. 

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It should’ve been +45 or 50+ 125 big purse. The Midwest is stacked with fast vet riders. Too many too list but I,ll list a couple...

It should’ve been +45 or 50+ 125 big purse. The Midwest is stacked with fast vet riders. Too many too list but I,ll list a couple. Current 125 rider riding a 125 at LL Marc from Wi. Finished 15 in 45,50.  Hoffmaster, Jerominski, Jr Jackson, Brandon Bartz, etc all from IL.  They would hv put a thousands more in the stands.  Chad Johnson Wi. Still fast. Eron Ezerins Wi. I,m sure could fly yet. They all raced AX, some did SX, Nationals, made great money racing Fri night Lake Geneva then Byron Sunday or Aztalan. 

crusher773 wrote:

Are you serious?  Talk about bodies littered everywhere, at least the kids bounce up.  

Haha That would be awesome.  I would huck the finish line jump.  Make a far outside line in the corner b4 it.   Base of the...

Haha That would be awesome.  I would huck the finish line jump.  Make a far outside line in the corner b4 it.   Base of the ramp click 4th & hold it wo shoot for the sky then old school brake tap & hope I get it rt. Or the pull up on the bars then push the bars away using the secret heal in the sub  frame lift the rear end technique.  The 3 big doubles I might get into trouble tho. Ovr jump the 1st one & whiskey throttle the next 2.  To take out the frame work for the Monster sign. 

Get this man a sponsorship.

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I’m more pissed how pathetic that track was last night for the pros.  NO ONE CARES ABOUT SUPERMINIS.  

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It should’ve been +45 or 50+ 125 big purse. The Midwest is stacked with fast vet riders. Too many too list but I,ll list a couple...

It should’ve been +45 or 50+ 125 big purse. The Midwest is stacked with fast vet riders. Too many too list but I,ll list a couple. Current 125 rider riding a 125 at LL Marc from Wi. Finished 15 in 45,50.  Hoffmaster, Jerominski, Jr Jackson, Brandon Bartz, etc all from IL.  They would hv put a thousands more in the stands.  Chad Johnson Wi. Still fast. Eron Ezerins Wi. I,m sure could fly yet. They all raced AX, some did SX, Nationals, made great money racing Fri night Lake Geneva then Byron Sunday or Aztalan. 

crusher773 wrote:

Are you serious?  Talk about bodies littered everywhere, at least the kids bounce up.  

Haha That would be awesome.  I would huck the finish line jump.  Make a far outside line in the corner b4 it.   Base of the...

Haha That would be awesome.  I would huck the finish line jump.  Make a far outside line in the corner b4 it.   Base of the ramp click 4th & hold it wo shoot for the sky then old school brake tap & hope I get it rt. Or the pull up on the bars then push the bars away using the secret heal in the sub  frame lift the rear end technique.  The 3 big doubles I might get into trouble tho. Ovr jump the 1st one & whiskey throttle the next 2.  To take out the frame work for the Monster sign. 

I’m curious how you post while dreaming??

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9/17/2023 4:26pm
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Just watched two kids scorpion themselves, there’s safer ways for them to develop. Hope that kid they were working on after the finish line is ok...

Just watched two kids scorpion themselves, there’s safer ways for them to develop. Hope that kid they were working on after the finish line is ok, cause it didn’t look good. This sport is dangerous enough. 

the only ones you can blame are the parents for signing them up  then lmao

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9/18/2023 9:58am
crusher773 wrote:

Are you serious?  Talk about bodies littered everywhere, at least the kids bounce up.  

Haha That would be awesome.  I would huck the finish line jump.  Make a far outside line in the corner b4 it.   Base of the...

Haha That would be awesome.  I would huck the finish line jump.  Make a far outside line in the corner b4 it.   Base of the ramp click 4th & hold it wo shoot for the sky then old school brake tap & hope I get it rt. Or the pull up on the bars then push the bars away using the secret heal in the sub  frame lift the rear end technique.  The 3 big doubles I might get into trouble tho. Ovr jump the 1st one & whiskey throttle the next 2.  To take out the frame work for the Monster sign. 

yak651 wrote:

I’m curious how you post while dreaming??

DF9F4A10-3AFF-46D3-85EA-D6AA193F532ANot saying I would be the fastest guy there. But the finish line double I would go for it.  Denmark jump faces r different this yr. This 1 is near the rd the face is jewed up but similar angle & length to the finish jump. Yes it’s easier just landing on a backside of a hill. 1 time I landed off the track . It’s a 4th gear wo on the stock 04. See the top is loose silt on top of hardpack.   A different & the 1st hit on that hill . I launched 4th wo bike sideways in the air off launch.some kid said nice whip. I said Thx but I didn’t mean to do that. Haha  I think I hit a square hole. I flat landed in the corner.  

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9/18/2023 11:19am

So glad Richards made it out of there safe and to his race the next morning. crash looked bad.

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Haha That would be awesome.  I would huck the finish line jump.  Make a far outside line in the corner b4 it.   Base of the...

Haha That would be awesome.  I would huck the finish line jump.  Make a far outside line in the corner b4 it.   Base of the ramp click 4th & hold it wo shoot for the sky then old school brake tap & hope I get it rt. Or the pull up on the bars then push the bars away using the secret heal in the sub  frame lift the rear end technique.  The 3 big doubles I might get into trouble tho. Ovr jump the 1st one & whiskey throttle the next 2.  To take out the frame work for the Monster sign. 

yak651 wrote:

I’m curious how you post while dreaming??

Not saying I would be the fastest guy there. But the finish line double I would go for it.  Denmark jump faces r different this yr...

DF9F4A10-3AFF-46D3-85EA-D6AA193F532ANot saying I would be the fastest guy there. But the finish line double I would go for it.  Denmark jump faces r different this yr. This 1 is near the rd the face is jewed up but similar angle & length to the finish jump. Yes it’s easier just landing on a backside of a hill. 1 time I landed off the track . It’s a 4th gear wo on the stock 04. See the top is loose silt on top of hardpack.   A different & the 1st hit on that hill . I launched 4th wo bike sideways in the air off launch.some kid said nice whip. I said Thx but I didn’t mean to do that. Haha  I think I hit a square hole. I flat landed in the corner.  

Lol, those jumps are super Mellow there. That’s no where near a sx or mx national lip, fun to ride but definitely vet friendly layout. Back around 2003 or so when they had Marty Leum reface everything then it had a nice lip on the one by the road.

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9/18/2023 5:07pm
yak651 wrote:

I’m curious how you post while dreaming??

Not saying I would be the fastest guy there. But the finish line double I would go for it.  Denmark jump faces r different this yr...

DF9F4A10-3AFF-46D3-85EA-D6AA193F532ANot saying I would be the fastest guy there. But the finish line double I would go for it.  Denmark jump faces r different this yr. This 1 is near the rd the face is jewed up but similar angle & length to the finish jump. Yes it’s easier just landing on a backside of a hill. 1 time I landed off the track . It’s a 4th gear wo on the stock 04. See the top is loose silt on top of hardpack.   A different & the 1st hit on that hill . I launched 4th wo bike sideways in the air off launch.some kid said nice whip. I said Thx but I didn’t mean to do that. Haha  I think I hit a square hole. I flat landed in the corner.  

yak651 wrote:
Lol, those jumps are super Mellow there. That’s no where near a sx or mx national lip, fun to ride but definitely vet friendly layout. Back...

Lol, those jumps are super Mellow there. That’s no where near a sx or mx national lip, fun to ride but definitely vet friendly layout. Back around 2003 or so when they had Marty Leum reface everything then it had a nice lip on the one by the road.

Nice. That lip was built up this yr along with the one that drops ya down the hill. The lips r beat down now.  Late 90,s the jumps & whoops where fun.  Next co is in beaver dam. Probably live in fond du lac to be close to work. Don’t know much about the towns down there.  What do you think of fond du lac ?  

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It should’ve been +45 or 50+ 125 big purse. The Midwest is stacked with fast vet riders. Too many too list but I,ll list a couple...

It should’ve been +45 or 50+ 125 big purse. The Midwest is stacked with fast vet riders. Too many too list but I,ll list a couple. Current 125 rider riding a 125 at LL Marc from Wi. Finished 15 in 45,50.  Hoffmaster, Jerominski, Jr Jackson, Brandon Bartz, etc all from IL.  They would hv put a thousands more in the stands.  Chad Johnson Wi. Still fast. Eron Ezerins Wi. I,m sure could fly yet. They all raced AX, some did SX, Nationals, made great money racing Fri night Lake Geneva then Byron Sunday or Aztalan. 

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Not saying I would be the fastest guy there. But the finish line double I would go for it.  Denmark jump faces r different this yr...

DF9F4A10-3AFF-46D3-85EA-D6AA193F532ANot saying I would be the fastest guy there. But the finish line double I would go for it.  Denmark jump faces r different this yr. This 1 is near the rd the face is jewed up but similar angle & length to the finish jump. Yes it’s easier just landing on a backside of a hill. 1 time I landed off the track . It’s a 4th gear wo on the stock 04. See the top is loose silt on top of hardpack.   A different & the 1st hit on that hill . I launched 4th wo bike sideways in the air off launch.some kid said nice whip. I said Thx but I didn’t mean to do that. Haha  I think I hit a square hole. I flat landed in the corner.  

yak651 wrote:
Lol, those jumps are super Mellow there. That’s no where near a sx or mx national lip, fun to ride but definitely vet friendly layout. Back...

Lol, those jumps are super Mellow there. That’s no where near a sx or mx national lip, fun to ride but definitely vet friendly layout. Back around 2003 or so when they had Marty Leum reface everything then it had a nice lip on the one by the road.

Nice. That lip was built up this yr along with the one that drops ya down the hill. The lips r beat down now.  Late 90,s...

Nice. That lip was built up this yr along with the one that drops ya down the hill. The lips r beat down now.  Late 90,s the jumps & whoops where fun.  Next co is in beaver dam. Probably live in fond du lac to be close to work. Don’t know much about the towns down there.  What do you think of fond du lac ?  

Fun track when the conditions are right. They try, hard to work with the dirt they have.

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Raced 3 amateur Sx races in the 80s, the day after the pros.  LA Coliseum, Anaheim and San Diego Jack Murphy.... Somehow I survived.   Some of...

Raced 3 amateur Sx races in the 80s, the day after the pros. 

LA Coliseum, Anaheim and San Diego Jack Murphy....

Somehow I survived.   Some of the greatest memories of my childhood.

Yeah, I raced all of those also, LA Coliseum, Jack Murphy, Anaheim, Sun Devil Stadium, did all of them and more than once. You survived because the tracks were all mowed down and nothing like the track that the pros raced on the night before. If you saw a jump like the ones these kids wadded on Saturday night, you would have shit yourself down both legs. Stop it..

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Raced 3 amateur Sx races in the 80s, the day after the pros.  LA Coliseum, Anaheim and San Diego Jack Murphy.... Somehow I survived.   Some of...

Raced 3 amateur Sx races in the 80s, the day after the pros. 

LA Coliseum, Anaheim and San Diego Jack Murphy....

Somehow I survived.   Some of the greatest memories of my childhood.

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Yeah, I raced all of those also, LA Coliseum, Jack Murphy, Anaheim, Sun Devil Stadium, did all of them and more than once. You survived because...

Yeah, I raced all of those also, LA Coliseum, Jack Murphy, Anaheim, Sun Devil Stadium, did all of them and more than once. You survived because the tracks were all mowed down and nothing like the track that the pros raced on the night before. If you saw a jump like the ones these kids wadded on Saturday night, you would have shit yourself down both legs. Stop it..

Laughing

Of course the tracks were cut down.   They ran BEG thru EXP classes for crying out loud.   ...and the tracks were STILL more technical/dangerous than local tracks at Indian Dunes and Saddleback by far. 

The kids racing Saturday night are the next pros....pretty sure they have the skill level to handle those tracks.   Hell the kids on 65's were sending it over the triple in SMX1.    You did not see that back in the day...  Skill/bikes have come a long way. 

So yeah...just stop, yourself. Grinning

 

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