SuperMotocross Rider Entry List | Confirmed

mb60
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9/5/2023 1:38pm
Exo wrote:

Nobody could get Savatgy a damn bike? Wow. That is a shame. 

Tate517 wrote:
I mean anybody!!!! Rick Ware, Mitch, ML, PULPMX, Swap, Keefer, ANYBODY!!! Get Joey a damn 450! It is absolutely astonishing and disgusting that someone with as...

I mean anybody!!!! Rick Ware, Mitch, ML, PULPMX, Swap, Keefer, ANYBODY!!! Get Joey a damn 450! It is absolutely astonishing and disgusting that someone with as much talent as Joey couldn't get someone to loan him a race bike for these 3 races. I am not even a huge Savatgy fan.. but this is some bullsh&#! Joey could easily be a top ten guy.. all that money down the drain!

He seems to whine and bitch about not being factory. 

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SCIENCE
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9/5/2023 1:39pm
SCIENCE wrote:
At end of day, this is just a knee jerk reaction $ series to WSX.  Great for the riders to earn more $, but useless to...

At end of day, this is just a knee jerk reaction $ series to WSX.  Great for the riders to earn more $, but useless to the sport and its record books.  The major (& regional) championships are secure  and these 3 events will hardly be playoffs (no one eliminated)  Rules are spotty and even the industry insiders (Pulp/Swap/Vital etc ) aren't exactly sure what is going down, who is in, who is out what a hybrid track is, what a championship means etc.  The big miss is MXSports and MXGP not putting together a Trans Am style outdoor fall series, best on best 250 and 450.  Unadilla, HiPoint, RedBud, GH, maybe a Euro round to lead up to Des Nations.  Would have much more soul and actually mean something.  We have been lucky the past couple years with both SX & Outdoors.  Why gum it up with 3 weeks of Monster Cup?  

DonM wrote:

Luckily for you there's college football.....

LOL,  hopefully I will be getting some early fall rides in.  

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yak651
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9/5/2023 1:41pm
My fix would be top 22 rider hard cap with only exception to go past 22 is move up, injury or opt out. You pick the...

My fix would be top 22 rider hard cap with only exception to go past 22 is move up, injury or opt out. You pick the highest point guys that want to race until you get 22 full gate. If injury happens once the playoff starts that’s just one bike not on the gate. Put a tough block like the heat races. 

I just think having only the best 22 invited only and not running lcq’s would put even more emphasis on the “regular” season and the buble spots 18-24ish. 

 

Like this, 22 at RD1, Top 18 at RD2 and then top 16 for final round. Add a 250/450 dash for cash for the top 5 overall lap times in qualifying with a $25k purse to the winner at at least the final if not all 3 rounds

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9/5/2023 1:43pm
Is it even being shown on TV? And is it much better than saying, this person qualified for the elite group by scoring on average, 1...

Is it even being shown on TV? And is it much better than saying, this person qualified for the elite group by scoring on average, 1 point per race.

What rock do you live under bud?

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merc_crewlcab
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9/5/2023 1:47pm
Exo wrote:

Nobody could get Savatgy a damn bike? Wow. That is a shame. 

Tate517 wrote:
I mean anybody!!!! Rick Ware, Mitch, ML, PULPMX, Swap, Keefer, ANYBODY!!! Get Joey a damn 450! It is absolutely astonishing and disgusting that someone with as...

I mean anybody!!!! Rick Ware, Mitch, ML, PULPMX, Swap, Keefer, ANYBODY!!! Get Joey a damn 450! It is absolutely astonishing and disgusting that someone with as much talent as Joey couldn't get someone to loan him a race bike for these 3 races. I am not even a huge Savatgy fan.. but this is some bullsh&#! Joey could easily be a top ten guy.. all that money down the drain!

Maybe it has something to do with his Triumph contract? Who knows eh. ML512, would you happen to know maybe?

Always been a JS17 fan, shame he wont be there. 

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zookrider62!
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9/5/2023 1:47pm
Is it even being shown on TV? And is it much better than saying, this person qualified for the elite group by scoring on average, 1...

Is it even being shown on TV? And is it much better than saying, this person qualified for the elite group by scoring on average, 1 point per race.

What rock do you live under bud?

this one, I didn't see the update on it

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ML512
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9/5/2023 1:49pm
this one, I didn't see the update on it

this one, I didn't see the update on it

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I was wrong.

zookrider62!
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9/5/2023 1:50pm
this one, I didn't see the update on it

this one, I didn't see the update on it

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ML512 wrote:

I was wrong.

I know, he asked what rock I lived under, and that was the last reference I had to the LCQs, I had not seen additional posts on it. Glad its on TV, would have been a bummer to not show it.

MX Culture
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9/5/2023 2:00pm
TKLEVEN wrote:

why opt out if your Drake or Maralisi? 

 

Marsalisi is a 250 SX guy even though he raced 450 outdoors, messaged with him last week and he said he messed up his shoulder at Unadilla and is going to give it rest and get checked out, so he's out. 

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mxracer71
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9/5/2023 2:05pm
Exo wrote:

Nobody could get Savatgy a damn bike? Wow. That is a shame. 

mxracer71 wrote:
I like savagy but damn,there has been riders in the past who bought a bike and went out and did it and it turned into a...

I like savagy but damn,there has been riders in the past who bought a bike and went out and did it and it turned into a good thing. Aka barcia and Wilson. It’s only 3 races,sometimes you need to invest in yourself. 

kxking wrote:

Charlotte, to Chicago, then LA in 14 days ?

What position would he have to finish to break even ?

If there is a ton of money giving back to the riders it could be beneficial. 

CPR
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9/5/2023 2:06pm

Looking forward to LCQ mayhem, even the mains in the last rounds with multiplied points on offer, may encourage some aggressive riding. Certainly going to be interesting just how all this plays out.

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DonM
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9/5/2023 2:11pm
CPR wrote:
Looking forward to LCQ mayhem, even the mains in the last rounds with multiplied points on offer, may encourage some aggressive riding. Certainly going to be...

Looking forward to LCQ mayhem, even the mains in the last rounds with multiplied points on offer, may encourage some aggressive riding. Certainly going to be interesting just how all this plays out.

Have all your questions and concerns been answered today?

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aeffertz
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9/5/2023 2:14pm
Exo wrote:

Nobody could get Savatgy a damn bike? Wow. That is a shame. 

Tate517 wrote:
I mean anybody!!!! Rick Ware, Mitch, ML, PULPMX, Swap, Keefer, ANYBODY!!! Get Joey a damn 450! It is absolutely astonishing and disgusting that someone with as...

I mean anybody!!!! Rick Ware, Mitch, ML, PULPMX, Swap, Keefer, ANYBODY!!! Get Joey a damn 450! It is absolutely astonishing and disgusting that someone with as much talent as Joey couldn't get someone to loan him a race bike for these 3 races. I am not even a huge Savatgy fan.. but this is some bullsh&#! Joey could easily be a top ten guy.. all that money down the drain!

I mean, he’s the one that chose to race for RWR, which is primarily a WSX team. McElrath is on the RWR team and put together a program to race the last few nationals and these SMX races. I think some guys just want to race more than others. 

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ando
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9/5/2023 2:22pm Edited Date/Time 9/5/2023 2:31pm

So that’s the final list, good to see.

What’s the process if a few riders in the top 20 are injured?  Let’s say by the final round that 3 top 20 guys are out and 3 LCQ guys are out.  Will it be 7 riders in the LCQ racing for 5 positions in the motos?  Do they keep drafting in more to fill the spots?  Or do they run with a short gate in the motos?

EDIT - so according to the rule book they just keep drafting in new entries to fill the LCQ.

8tensolutions
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9/5/2023 2:31pm
Exo wrote:

Nobody could get Savatgy a damn bike? Wow. That is a shame. 

Tate517 wrote:
I mean anybody!!!! Rick Ware, Mitch, ML, PULPMX, Swap, Keefer, ANYBODY!!! Get Joey a damn 450! It is absolutely astonishing and disgusting that someone with as...

I mean anybody!!!! Rick Ware, Mitch, ML, PULPMX, Swap, Keefer, ANYBODY!!! Get Joey a damn 450! It is absolutely astonishing and disgusting that someone with as much talent as Joey couldn't get someone to loan him a race bike for these 3 races. I am not even a huge Savatgy fan.. but this is some bullsh&#! Joey could easily be a top ten guy.. all that money down the drain!

aeffertz wrote:
I mean, he’s the one that chose to race for RWR, which is primarily a WSX team. McElrath is on the RWR team and put together...

I mean, he’s the one that chose to race for RWR, which is primarily a WSX team. McElrath is on the RWR team and put together a program to race the last few nationals and these SMX races. I think some guys just want to race more than others. 

He is on a new Team and the bike basically does not exist.  You would think he would figure out his own effort for three races, but they are across the country in two weeks and it's a lot to ask.  It was Joey's doing, nobody is treating him poorly.  If he wanted to race, he could sign up.

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DonM
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9/5/2023 2:32pm
ando wrote:
So that’s the final list, good to see. What’s the process if a few riders in the top 20 are injured?  Let’s say by the final...

So that’s the final list, good to see.

What’s the process if a few riders in the top 20 are injured?  Let’s say by the final round that 3 top 20 guys are out and 3 LCQ guys are out.  Will it be 7 riders in the LCQ racing for 5 positions in the motos?  Do they keep drafting in more to fill the spots?  Or do they run with a short gate in the motos?

EDIT - so according to the rule book they just keep drafting in new entries to fill the LCQ.

3six2
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9/5/2023 2:34pm

No Mcadoo Sad  

Hasn't he been on the bike for a couple weeks? 

aeffertz
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9/5/2023 2:47pm
He is on a new Team and the bike basically does not exist.  You would think he would figure out his own effort for three races...

He is on a new Team and the bike basically does not exist.  You would think he would figure out his own effort for three races, but they are across the country in two weeks and it's a lot to ask.  It was Joey's doing, nobody is treating him poorly.  If he wanted to race, he could sign up.

He’s still on Rick Ware ‘til the end of WSX.

plowboy
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9/5/2023 2:51pm

I'm not smart or energetic enough to figure this whole dealio out but it's more racing so I'm cool with it.  Get it on.Cool

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ando
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9/5/2023 2:57pm

Interesting - the term “Riders for the SMX Teams” appears throughout the rules, rather than “Riders”.

Money is paid to the “Entrant”.  Riders responsibility to determine how the Entrant pays the money to the rider.

250 class payouts are all over the place relative to the 450 class.  They start at 1/2 for the same final position, vary from 1/3 to 1/5 as you go down the list and finish at less than 1/12.  Position 22 in 450 pays $25K; position 22 in 250 pays $2K.  It’s not until 6th position that the 250’s payout reaches $25K.

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DonM
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9/5/2023 3:06pm
ando wrote:
Interesting - the term “Riders for the SMX Teams” appears throughout the rules, rather than “Riders”. Money is paid to the “Entrant”.  Riders responsibility to determine...

Interesting - the term “Riders for the SMX Teams” appears throughout the rules, rather than “Riders”.

Money is paid to the “Entrant”.  Riders responsibility to determine how the Entrant pays the money to the rider.

250 class payouts are all over the place relative to the 450 class.  They start at 1/2 for the same final position, vary from 1/3 to 1/5 as you go down the list and finish at less than 1/12.  Position 22 in 450 pays $25K; position 22 in 250 pays $2K.  It’s not until 6th position that the 250’s payout reaches $25K.

Page 23…same rules apply to SX and MX….more than likely for tax purposes

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dsc131
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9/5/2023 3:22pm
Exo wrote:

Nobody could get Savatgy a damn bike? Wow. That is a shame. 

Tate517 wrote:
I mean anybody!!!! Rick Ware, Mitch, ML, PULPMX, Swap, Keefer, ANYBODY!!! Get Joey a damn 450! It is absolutely astonishing and disgusting that someone with as...

I mean anybody!!!! Rick Ware, Mitch, ML, PULPMX, Swap, Keefer, ANYBODY!!! Get Joey a damn 450! It is absolutely astonishing and disgusting that someone with as much talent as Joey couldn't get someone to loan him a race bike for these 3 races. I am not even a huge Savatgy fan.. but this is some bullsh&#! Joey could easily be a top ten guy.. all that money down the drain!

aeffertz wrote:
I mean, he’s the one that chose to race for RWR, which is primarily a WSX team. McElrath is on the RWR team and put together...

I mean, he’s the one that chose to race for RWR, which is primarily a WSX team. McElrath is on the RWR team and put together a program to race the last few nationals and these SMX races. I think some guys just want to race more than others. 

WSX….the gift that keeps on giving. 

Sucks that he bought in to the snake oil salesmen and didn’t even make enough money to buy a bike and make it to 3 races. 

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ML512
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9/5/2023 3:24pm

Sounds like Devin Simonson will get the final 450 spot.

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tyler113
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9/5/2023 3:28pm
Is it even being shown on TV? And is it much better than saying, this person qualified for the elite group by scoring on average, 1...

Is it even being shown on TV? And is it much better than saying, this person qualified for the elite group by scoring on average, 1 point per race.

What rock do you live under bud?

I'm fairly sure he's asking about the LCQ. I feel that's a legitimate question to ask as they don't show the outdoor, or triple crown LCQ on the broadcast.

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DonM
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Is it even being shown on TV? And is it much better than saying, this person qualified for the elite group by scoring on average, 1...

Is it even being shown on TV? And is it much better than saying, this person qualified for the elite group by scoring on average, 1 point per race.

What rock do you live under bud?

tyler113 wrote:
I'm fairly sure he's asking about the LCQ. I feel that's a legitimate question to ask as they don't show the outdoor, or triple crown LCQ...

I'm fairly sure he's asking about the LCQ. I feel that's a legitimate question to ask as they don't show the outdoor, or triple crown LCQ on the broadcast.

LCQ’s will be shown during RDL

Jdog2221
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9/5/2023 4:19pm

Wonder if drake bailed because his bike failed constantly or barx isn’t sending a rig?

RichieW13
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9/5/2023 4:29pm

I predict Forkner wins all 3 LCQ's.

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9/5/2023 4:57pm

I saw that Webb was in, can I safely assume that will be the big reveal on Star racing? 

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lumpy790
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9/5/2023 5:00pm Edited Date/Time 9/5/2023 5:02pm

With Friday having practice are they loading the pits a day earlier so setup and tech happens on Thursday instead of the normal Friday? When does privateer waiting line start lining up? Wednesday or Thursday?

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