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Triumph supply engines to the FIM Moto2 World Championship. It's highly unlikely the engines will not be up to par. In terms of UK engineering, in motorsport we have the best engineers on the planet. That doesn't mean Triumph do of course, but the idea the UK can't produce high-end product isn't accurate.
955i CE.
They replaced the frame?
Hell, I remember VF750S' ( I think that was what the poxy things were called - the 'std' type bike that was the first of the 750V4s ) coming back into dealerships with "weird handling".
It was from Cracked and Broken frames - some with just the wiring and cables holding the Whole Front End on. I Kid You Not. Plus, the whole 'Chocolate Cam Shafts that Honda has specialized in, over so many decades.......
Gearbox problems ? That was a bit of a common issue, but it mainly plagued the T595, if I recall correctly
Did you see the racer that the (Brit) Performance Bikes magazine (now defunct, as is the Mag they rolled it into) made from a 955i? They used it for Thunder Bikes Class racing, I think. It was quite a weapon.
Yeah, the engineers at Lucas electric invented blinking lights and intermittent wipers !!!
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I would be more worried aboyt designers being drunk than welders..
75% of 'quality issues' are actually design issues, And the 25% that is left is 75/25 down to assembly.
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Comprehension not your thing huh?
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but, isn't Cosworth involved in the engine development? I could swear that I had read that, early on. They've had a pretty successful run in F1.
releasing weekly segments on the build of the bike is creative media, but I think most of us agree that the bike should have been shown first, followed by weekly segments on how it was designed and built. they saw this as a lead up when it should have followed the bike reveal.
Where are these bikes going to be made?
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I am a Brit, but it's nearly impossible to defend Lucas electrics
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If so then engines should be fast. When star had cosworth they made gains and Osborne often says that cosworth Dixon bike was the fastest 250 he has rode
Anyone can make fast bikes.
Making fast bikes that stay together is a whole different thing.
And while Triumph are the supplier to Moto2, there is nothing hard about supplying a spec motor for a one make series, apart from making sure that they are all the same.
That hasn't been announced
But the road bikes are made in Thailand, Brasil ? , India ?
So I can see them being made in the same places
Unless they are going to be low volume & high price, then maybe the UK ?
Aren’t the racing goodies and special edition bikes still made in Hinckley?
My point with the frames was that the frame was robotically welded and they still had problems, wrong temp causing weak welds.
Yes, Triumph repaired the frames.
Mine’s had a rebuilt motor, wiring harness, and rear hub.
There was a time when I bought every PB that had that bike in it but I don’t recall that. What I do recall is comparison tests to the Japanese in which in 2002 it was on their heels (DSS) but then in 2003 the Japanese came out with updates and the 955i was comparable only to the GSXR 750. Also, it seemed that in 2003 PB moved on pretty quickly from the 955i to other higher tech bikes.
I’ll look to see if I have those issues but from what I recall it would be tough to race because of over taxed/ low tech suspension and brakes that were fine on the street, and too much weight high up in the cylinder heads.
Believing any company is 100% upfront in its marketing materials is not my thing.
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Keep 30+ competitors happy with reliability and parity ain't an easy task, not at World Championship level. It demonstrates at the bare minimum they have a competent engine division. I am not sure why you'd think it's easy.
It would be highly unusual, especially if they get help from Cosworth, for the engine to be the issue for Triumph.
Because i have done it.
Nothing runs at anything even close to its ceiling, nobody is allowed to touch anything, and as a result, they dont break.
The fact they have turned up the Moto2 bike this season says it has plenty of margin
ExternPro do a great job of keeping them all nice and even, and they will have guys who can follow a build spec to the letter.
Its interesting to note that while 250F MX bikes blow up for fun, Moto3 bikes seem to never break down , despite being on full throttle all the time, for the same reasons. Controlled spec and build,
Do people even look at this photo? It's clearly an AI generated image, the damn header is just coming out of the frame, the weird Chinese writing on the rims/swingarm/etc, the god awful side number plates, missing spokes, weird ass rotors, not to mention the frame looks nothing like the actual frame. It just goes on and on...
Saw this on a New Zealand site, not sure if a mock up or what. I’m not smart enough to tell if photoshopped
Doubting that I'm perfect is where you went wrong. We did work for a large company that would not allow welds on finished parts. As a surface grinder you are the last person to touch a part and if you screwed up the welder couldn't add a bead and save your butt. We were in an air-conditioned clean room so you would have consistent temps and not lose size because of temperature fluctuations. I went 3 years without scraping a part so the comparison between a pro racer and a skilled tradesman fails. I may have been damn good, but I had far less variables to deal with. The mantra I live by is: "If the process is perfect the results are automatic."
Let's see what Triumph comes up with as a 15000 rpm plus motocross single that many owners will not maintain, let alone follow the lifing recomendations for.
The Triumph Moto2 engines are leased for big $, have a very short rebuild interval and are rpm limited.
The entire crankcase and cylinder head is chucked at around 3000K, and the crankshaft, rods and pistons as well as valves and springs are changed twice during the engines 12 meeting lifespan.
I don't think it's easy. These are all complex goals to achieve, especially when riders are trying to get rides in MotoGP. A HP here or there is a problem. I don't know the exact 'word on the street' but I've not heard any suggestion Triumph have done a bad job or whatever.
If 250MX are blowing up for fun from existing manufacturers then why aren't they all out of business? I just think it's unlikely engine power/reliability will be a fundamental issue. If they have Cosworth onboard it'll require an enormous f*ck up for the engine to be a problem. Trumph's Supersport team are doing OK with Tuuli currently 6th int he championship. I think they'll be OK
Chassis side is a different thing entirely.
AI renderings. hoping it’s more “next gen” cosmetically than that.
If they wanna see more bikes they should have 350cc coming.
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