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Why do you guys keep responding to the nutcases in this thread?
JM485: Goldmember would scream fake, even if you‘d livestream how you ride the bike from the production line to track to rip some laps… it’s hopeless
And you will go till death arguing the world's greatest bike.
Why so sensitive about this? Am I wrong in my post? As of today, there are less than 10 people that I know of that can actually comment about physically riding and seeing this bike in person. That includes pro riders that got the "golden Stark ticket". My point is that this bike continues to be a white rhino and until it can be ridden by many without rose colored glasses on, it is just a bunch of worthless hype. I'm not against e-bikes or the technology, but I'm not going to get on the Stark train until I can see for myself if it is worth the hype.
You should know by reading the specifications that this bike will out perform all MX bikes.
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I just think it's strange that people are still arguing like their life is on the line, when, allegedly, we're going to find out beyond a shadow of a doubt in the coming weeks when the first shipment hits. What's the point? Just wait and see.
MX bikes: They're not for every rider or ride.
Trials bikes: They're not for every rider or ride.
Street bikes: They're not for every rider or ride.
Electric bikes: They're not for every rider or ride.
Choose your weapon and may the best choice win.
Because in the end, it's all about you.
Ride on!
And those guys haven’t even paid for one! They’re complaining that other people’s preorders haven’t arrived yet and using it as some sort of “gotcha!” Weird hill to die on.
Im glad others got to try the bike and seem to share the opinions I had about it. Maybe now ill stop being called a shill?
Nope, clearly you and he are in kahoots. You've been paid, flown to Spain, given incredibly strong psychedelic drugs to make you believe you saw, touched, and rode an actual bike, then sent back home to gush about it on social media. The CEO of Stark Future is a worldwide megalomaniac bent on forcing people to... to... uh, believe that he builds a product which doesn't exist, so he can... uh... wait for it.... well, I can't really see why he would do that, BUT CLEARLY HE IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You must be new here. It is so the global elites can electrify our means of conveyance so we can be herded like the sheep we are.
Why it is originating in Spain, you may ask? Because of something nobody expects....
All the moto companies make claims about their new bikes every year. If you add up all the power and improved handling gains kawi ads have claimed over the last 15 years they should be 90hp and autopilot by now...lol.
It's pretty crazy that an all new brand is showing up out of know where with a completely new type of bike and looks to be having bikes to customers in less time than an established bike brand like triumph. Sure, no customer has one yet. But that isn't proof that they won't soon.🤷♀️
Don't be crazy, Stark is just going to pay everybody that rides the bike to say great things about it. With all of that money they got from $100 deposits. I doubt those 3 or 4 guys will ever admit the Varg is a good bike. When MXA tests it and finds something to complain about they will hold onto that slice of negativity and disregard all of the positive stuff because its not perfect for everybody.
One of my customers just got their updated ETA of sometime in July now. So there should be Varg's in the wild by mid summer.
I still find it funny that you guys that are so pro Stark get bent about us skeptics that just question the obvious. Stark came out with a huge glowing sign above their heads that read "the future is here" but in all reality the future keeps getting pushed farther and farther down the road. I think some of us nay-sayers point is that we are not ready to give this amazing electric bike its crown as the bike of all bikes UNTIL we have witnessed it first hand.
The couple of guys on here who were fortunate enough to view and ride one are all in but for a lot of us we are keeping our gas cans and air filters close by incase this electric thing doesn't pan out like so many of you are claiming. Same as the Tesla. I work in the automotive field and see a lot of these George Jetson-mobiles being traded in for gas burners right now. If it works for you, great. If not, then don't judge us for keeping our fossil fuel world killing steeds.
You are absolutely insane if you don't believe Anton Wass. This bike is a world changer and Rome wasn't built in a day.
I wouldn't classify a skeptic in the same class as the people who make up stuff or just come to post negative stuff on every thread that involves a Varg. Just because a bike can outperform others doesn't make it the best bike for everybody. I know that most of the people who are excited about the Varg have also said that if you try one and like a gas bike better, than keep riding the gas bike. Ride whatever you have fun riding.
People still buy 125 2 strokes even though a 450 out performs them in many categories. People buy MX bikes and ride the moff road even though you can buy off road versions with larger tanks and longer range. Buy and ride whatever you want. Be skeptical , Every manufacture claims their new bikes are much better than their last bike.
Stark is not any different in claiming that their bike outperforms others in the areas they felt mattered. I find it annoying to have people who have never ridden an electric bike or anything electric that argue with people that have ridden them about what that person really felt or their opinion on electric MX bikes overall. Yah its hard to get on a Varg right now. But go out and try an Alta , or drive a fast electric car or even go cart. And You will start to see why people are excited about electric powered MX bikes. I too am not totally sold on the Varg being everything they say without there being some unseen drawbacks. I'm very hopeful based on my personal experiences on electric powered vehicles that it is able to be all of those things with no unforeseen downsides. I think everybody knows that range and charging speed will limit what can be done with the Varg so I doubt there will be negative surprises on that .
When single shock, long travel bikes came out , and they were the best handling bikes ever. Where there people saying it wasn't true and how could it be possible that some random dude in a garage was able to come up with such a suspension system when all of the big companies out there had not yet? The story of the Full Floater linkage shows that it is possible for an outsider to come in and totally change things up. Maybe that lack of rotating mass that electric is missing , is one of the big keys to making an amazing chassis? I'm looking forward to seeing whatever else is good and bad about the Varg.
These proposed Stark Vargs have been shamelessly promoted as the best motocross bike ever.
Apart from the uncomfortable fact that NO PRODUCTION STARKS have been shown to have been made in the normally understood sense, the chances of the best riders in the world doing a Pro MX level 100 degree mudder, or sand race, with a sight lap, the required 30 minutes plus 2 laps moto with a red flag restart, on a 6.0, 6.2 or 6.5 kWh battery (pick one) is extremely unlikely. In fact 12 to 15 minutes before it runs out of juice, or thermal limits, (either to protect the battery or the rare earth magnets on the rotor) seems likely. This 40 minutes or so of race use has to be done twice in an afternoon with a bare hour between motos to recharge.
It's not happening, we all know it, and the AMA will never be presented with proof of the 400 bikes required so won't have to knock them back.
What was your customer's previous expected delivery date ?
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The Stark doesn't need to do any of that to be the greatest MX bike.
Anton and a few guy's on here said it the greatest and that's all there is to it.
What does this map show? What are the red dots?
Bryan’s bike is scheduled to arrive the end of May.
It's a real-time map of all the ships at sea worldwide.
The various colored indicators represent different vessel types.
Presumably, there's a container full of Stark Varg motorbikes aboard one of them heading to the U.S.
I don’t doubt there is, but how do you know this? I mean, that’s a lot if red dots. Is there any way to tell which one of those is the Stark ship?
Either way, Bryan should have his within the next couple of weeks so we’ll know for sure then.
Have you ever heard the story of how Two Dogs, the young Indian brave got his name?
Sometimes, it's better to make your own discreet enquiries about things.
The things I know comprise a very short list that would barely fill a matchbook cover, so ...
See ; ' last2stroke' post above. He has a theory about which ship contains the long-awaited Stark Varg shipment.
Lol right
I wouldn’t even know where to look. How do you track one ship with an unlabeled worldwide shipping map?
& maybe look at the info you've been directed to , thus benefitting from the efforts of others.
How many are they producing a day?
Two Dogs Fucking 🤣
Oh you think Stark Vargs might be legit and you are optimistic it could be a successful product?
Name every single customer and their exact delivery dates. Follow that up with personal testimony sworn before a federal judge, plus notarized photographs, and video certified by experts in video editing to prove it is unaltered of you riding it, and their production facility churning out a minimum of 10,000 bikes per day. Then verify every piece of marketing Stark has ever produced with an accredited testing facility.
Unless you can do all that, everyone should just hate all day and not even entertain the inkling that maybe they'll produce something cool.
And if you can do all that, don't worry, we'll just move the goal posts to the next ridiculous hurdle so you can prove your intentions to some internet strangers you owe no obligations to.
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