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If zero have been tested (they have been by many pro’s and avg. Joe’s) and zero bikes have been delivered to public.
Then the claims aren’t false as you state, they are just simply claims like any company with something new because no one has been able to prove otherwise right? You just have a preconceived notion based on your opinion and you are trying to make it fact.
what Bryan states in his review are much closer to facts then yours or anyone else in here, why? Because he has actually…rode it.
I will disagree with this. My son has absolutely loved his KTM SX-e5 for the few years we have had it, he learned so much and had so much more fun after ditching the KTM SX50 he got off of.
But, he still is excited and having fun learning to ride his KTM SX65 right now while moving up.
but I will say if KTM had an electric 65 I would own one along side the ICE 65. It’s just much better for so many more things.
Interesting comments.
Why do you think KTM don't have an E65?
Just not developed yet. Same as when the SX-e5 (50sr) came out they didn’t have the SX-e3 (50jr). But now they do have it. It all takes time.
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If Turtleneck would just deliver on what was promised we wouldn't be having this conversation.
I would prefer a professional/someone not biased to do the review. Turtleneck needs to get Keefer and MXA a bike and let them test it. If I'm wrong you can gladly tell me to fuck off, it won't effect our relationship.
Typical tinfoil hat guy. Someone gives reasonable response with merit and the response back is a total subject change while calling people names.
Moving on.
And the Stark, just like the Alta (and most members of the Vital Church of the Holy Electricity) actually makes a high pitched very irritating noise.
Obviously, yes, you did miss it.
Stark's original communication was incredibly arrogant. They were supposed to beat the best raceteams in the world by 2022...
You're kidding right?
How can MXA not be bias?
MXA is a business, manufacturers advertiser with MXA, if MXA upsets the manufacturers, the manufacturers stop advertising with MXA, MXA loses revenue and MXA's business becomes unviable.
I don't mind a dude wearing a tinfoil hat. It makes for good fun. It's when they not only have the hat, they've got the tinfoil suit, the tinfoil shoes, the tinfoil house, the tinfoil car, the tinfoil yard, and the tinfoil wife; and they're typing out more tinfoil rants stating (for the nth time) that we're all just stupid, gullible groupies addicted to turtleneck's easily-debunked featherweight propaganda..
I have a simple two-part question: at this point in the argument, who are you anti-Varg guys still trying to convince, and how long will you wait before you admit your own utter futility at doing so? If this were a trial, a summary judgement would have been issued a long time ago. It aint over 'till it's over, but - it's over.
I don't need Keefer or MXA to figure out the Stark has a great bike.
Others with a learning disability might though
100% this^^^^
but whats more laughable is that guys that try to come across with such intelligence and hi iQ’s get caught up in the semantics which again shows, Stark wins! But please do keep telling us how many houses you build, snakes you can identify, how skilled you are at shifting, battery calculations etc. etc.
Was this a joke?
Bryan, in your communications with the folks at Stark was there any mention of a dual sport model in the future?
I’m sure that a few people will probably hack in some dual sport features, but just wondering if there may be plans to do it straight from the manufacturer so you wouldn’t have to start cutting up wiring harnesses and rigging up brake light switches, etc.
At this point I don’t think they have an Issue with the bike…they have an issue with the folks who defend stark at every turn.
Looks like a mixed bag. Sandusky has an issue with the Stark fanboys, Goldmember, who has worn through at least 4 screen names since the Stark was announced, thinks the performance claims are impossible given current technology, Rosso thinks the entire operation is a scam (FyRe FeST!), and Skull Island, who has also worn through at least 4 screen names since the Stark was announced, well, I have no idea what his problem is other than boredom and trolling. lol. Oh, and I'll throw in Magoofan who, just like any other subject that doesn't involve the 1970's and/or Indian Dunes, thinks electric bikes are the beginning of the end of the world.
Only honest/non biased review in this thread.
No I never use sarcasm in RMarmy discussion's.
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Does Roczen not count? He seemed pretty pumped about it.
He literally rode a Yamaha 450,Factory Honda, Fire Power Honda, Suzuki, YZ250 and the Stark in a short time period. I'd call that pretty unbiased.
I wonder if Stark is going to be giving media outlets test bikes like all the other manufactures do.
For a forum that's for people who love dirt bikes there a lot of hate for a dirt bike here
There are, I'm not sure when it will be released but that is definitely in the works.
Still kinda mind boggling how some here are getting so wound up and butt hurt about this bike.
If what you think is going on, or going to happen or not happen, really turns out to be true - so what? That would all rain bad on Stark. Not you. So just let it play out. You're all acting like they're a threat to your first born or something. Weird.
I think I'll do a little riff off Hanibal Lecter's prison cell chastisement of Clarice Starling, "Oh, no, no, no, no, no. You were doing fine. You'd shown us your dominion over snakes, you'd chronicled your prodigious homebuilding abilities, and now, to so ham-fistedly accept a weak little olive branch from GrapeApe as if his words were torn from the pages of Solomon's book of wisdom - tsk tsk - it won't do.
What are Goldmember, Nrosso, Skull Island, and the others, to make of your eagerness to find common ground at their expense?
It would appear it's a tinfoil land without a tinfoil king.
Me and Goldmember will fight all you fuckers
I already answered that questioning almost as often as Bryan told us that people who rode his Alta came back with a huge smile on their faces.
Same as Sandusky: disguised advertising, marketing bs made up to be the holy truth; perpetual proselytism, sectarian drift, you name it...
Live happily under the teaching and revelations of the great supreme leader Anton, brothers.
Why don't you trust the opinions of all of the media outlets that went and rode the bike at the media event? Wasn't there somebody there from MXA? I'm sure that all the major media will have Varg's when they have enough production bikes. It seems like just about every first review done by magazines points out all of the good stuff about a bike. and then they wait until a shootout or in depth test to say the stuff that they do not like, or that they think could be improved. That doesn't mean that they are not being truthful. I doubt that if the bike was not as good as people have said it was, that they would all be sucking up to a company so they could get some more of the crap bikes to lie about. So far I have not seen any paid adds anyplace for the Varg. I would think that if there was a glaring issue with the bikes that they rode that somebody would have said something.
I'm sure that there are some drawbacks other than the range and time needed to charge . If there are other negatives, the upsides are still pretty great for a lot of people.
Well, Ill just say that Anton mentioned publicly in recent interviews that they are already working on other bike models. So take that for what its worth.
Hoping you all can understand that i can only talk about public info right now.
Ah I see.... you have insider info. But you're also just a regular customer, like everybody else.
Amazing!
Did they make you sign an NDA?!
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