Oakland going to be a swamper

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1/10/2023 9:52am
NorCal1975 wrote:
So true.  You can make electricity and store water, both things the state desperately needs.  But Dams are bad, everyone should know that by now...   ...

So true.  You can make electricity and store water, both things the state desperately needs.  But Dams are bad, everyone should know that by now...  Wink  In California the interests of a few always outweigh the interests of many, which is part of why the state is on the fast lane to 3rd world status.  

I do still hope they get this race in.  Any kind of racing is better than nothing

Did you have to deal with the Oroville fiasco when they did not release water?  

The Sierra dams are flood control first, water storage second.  There's not a lot of space between the Sierra and the coast, and there are 20 million more people than in the 70's.

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I think my oval flat track idea is best.  We would be guaranteed some great racing and there would be carnage and lead changes every lap.  Barcia would be coming in hot on the inside....call it the Oakland Oval.

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I’m honestly blown away at people saying they should cancel the race, especially because it could affect someone’s championship. This is dirt bike racing. Weather is...

I’m honestly blown away at people saying they should cancel the race, especially because it could affect someone’s championship. This is dirt bike racing. Weather is part of it. If you don’t want to watch a race, why are you here?!

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I'm all for adverse conditions but who wants to watch everyone paddle through the corners and roll every jump? It's a shit situation and likely going...

I'm all for adverse conditions but who wants to watch everyone paddle through the corners and roll every jump?

It's a shit situation and likely going to be an absolute shit race to watch.

A shit race is better than no race. 

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No one’s talent overcomes the scenario we’re about to be faced with if the weather continues as reported. Many random events can unfold with no regard...

No one’s talent overcomes the scenario we’re about to be faced with if the weather continues as reported. Many random events can unfold with no regard to talent, including injury.

Welcome to dirt bike racing!

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I have a few feet of frozen flood

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Freakin climate change 

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Freakin climate change 

Hard to say, but out my back door(and yours possibly since you're in Utah) Alta has had 338" of snow so far this winter, which is a record, But Switzerland was 70 degrees 9 days ago and half the ski resorts in Europe are closed and have no snow, which has never happened in January.  

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If the Star Yamaha guys weren't riding 2022 frames last week, they will be for sure this week.  WR450 airboxes with snorkels won't fit the '23.

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I’m honestly blown away at people saying they should cancel the race, especially because it could affect someone’s championship. This is dirt bike racing. Weather is...

I’m honestly blown away at people saying they should cancel the race, especially because it could affect someone’s championship. This is dirt bike racing. Weather is part of it. If you don’t want to watch a race, why are you here?!

c0ncEpT wrote:
I'm all for adverse conditions but who wants to watch everyone paddle through the corners and roll every jump? It's a shit situation and likely going...

I'm all for adverse conditions but who wants to watch everyone paddle through the corners and roll every jump?

It's a shit situation and likely going to be an absolute shit race to watch.

A shit race is better than no race. 

A rescheduled  race is better than a shit race.

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It rained so much here last night. It just finally stopped, but they say it’s starting again tonight. There hasn’t been a 2 day stretch without...

It rained so much here last night. It just finally stopped, but they say it’s starting again tonight. There hasn’t been a 2 day stretch without rain in weeks. No dirt is dry, unless stored indoors. 

We have been getting the same consistent rain all the way up here in Redding. Our local track and down to Marysville are all swamped. Will...

We have been getting the same consistent rain all the way up here in Redding. Our local track and down to Marysville are all swamped. Will the teams be training in Arizona or Nevada like last week? I have been to mudders myself and it is a mixed bag entertainment wise.  2017 Seattle race was wet but not a complete mud bog and it was rut-cross. (Plessinger won in 250's)

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Star and Kawasaki will be in Arizona training this week at a SX track in Case Grande. 

Shit, that suxs. I lived in casa grande for 9 months last year working at the local ER,  This would have been cool to go out and watch at motoland

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moto469 wrote:

Freakin climate change 

str8line wrote:
Hard to say, but out my back door(and yours possibly since you're in Utah) Alta has had 338" of snow so far this winter, which is...

Hard to say, but out my back door(and yours possibly since you're in Utah) Alta has had 338" of snow so far this winter, which is a record, But Switzerland was 70 degrees 9 days ago and half the ski resorts in Europe are closed and have no snow, which has never happened in January.  

Freakin' volcanos

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1/10/2023 1:36pm

It's been like the two stroke nationals in my neck of the woods east of Sacramento with all the chain saws going.

How far east are you?  I'm from Bama but over in Santa Rosa working. I have noticed a serious lack of tracks up this way.  I did just find out that Mosiman is from Sebastopol. I'm not sure where he rode because I seen or heard of any place around here to ride.  It's interesting going to different places and trying to look up the moto scene.

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I was at Hangtown in the mudfest a couple of years ago. Most were paddling with both feet on some of the downhills with knee deep muck ruts. Not a fun race to watch or probably ride. And yes I have tickets to Oakland.

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How does drainage work at these stadiums? At sand pits in NJ, it can rain 2-3 inches  overnight and be fine the next day. That’s with a deep base of sand, though. Does the water run off and drain somewhere at the stadium? If they bring in enough sand, and there is drainage, it might be doable?

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That’s just not that much rain if you can cover it most of the day and you have a lot of sand mixed in. I’m hoping it’s not a total shit show. 

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It's been like the two stroke nationals in my neck of the woods east of Sacramento with all the chain saws going.

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How far east are you?  I'm from Bama but over in Santa Rosa working. I have noticed a serious lack of tracks up this way.  I...

How far east are you?  I'm from Bama but over in Santa Rosa working. I have noticed a serious lack of tracks up this way.  I did just find out that Mosiman is from Sebastopol. I'm not sure where he rode because I seen or heard of any place around here to ride.  It's interesting going to different places and trying to look up the moto scene.

Right at Folsom Lake.  

 

You'll probably have to head over the valley to find more commercial tracks, I think it is pretty sparse in the north Bay Area/west side of I80 (although there is Stoneyford and Cow Mountain for riding areas).  Argyll may be closest.  I have no idea if Oasis MX out on Highway 20 near Clear Lake still operates.  

I am sure folks have secret places stashed up and down 101, it's the Wild West as you head north.

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How does drainage work at these stadiums? At sand pits in NJ, it can rain 2-3 inches  overnight and be fine the next day. That’s with...

How does drainage work at these stadiums? At sand pits in NJ, it can rain 2-3 inches  overnight and be fine the next day. That’s with a deep base of sand, though. Does the water run off and drain somewhere at the stadium? If they bring in enough sand, and there is drainage, it might be doable?

The Coliseum is built next to the Bay on landfill.

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  That’s just not that much rain if you can cover it most of the day and you have a lot of sand mixed in. I’m...

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That’s just not that much rain if you can cover it most of the day and you have a lot of sand mixed in. I’m hoping it’s not a total shit show. 

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 Cover what?  A mud puddle?

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  That’s just not that much rain if you can cover it most of the day and you have a lot of sand mixed in. I’m...

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That’s just not that much rain if you can cover it most of the day and you have a lot of sand mixed in. I’m hoping it’s not a total shit show. 

 Cover what?  A mud puddle?

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 Cover what?  A mud puddle?

Sand tracks stay rideable in rain cause they usually have a base of several feet of sand . The rain drains down into this base. In a stadium it drains down a foot or two and hits concrete. Sand won't help much in a stadium. 

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  That’s just not that much rain if you can cover it most of the day and you have a lot of sand mixed in. I’m...

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That’s just not that much rain if you can cover it most of the day and you have a lot of sand mixed in. I’m hoping it’s not a total shit show. 

Covering it won't help if the dirt is already completely saturated. One of the Dirtwurx guys has been posting pics on IG. It looks like they are trying to build an SX track out of soup. They can't even push jumps with a dozer. They are trying to make what they can with a couple of track hoes.

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How does drainage work at these stadiums? At sand pits in NJ, it can rain 2-3 inches  overnight and be fine the next day. That’s with...

How does drainage work at these stadiums? At sand pits in NJ, it can rain 2-3 inches  overnight and be fine the next day. That’s with a deep base of sand, though. Does the water run off and drain somewhere at the stadium? If they bring in enough sand, and there is drainage, it might be doable?

How does drainage work at these stadiums?     

If the goal is to collect water on the stadium floor they work pretty good. If not ? Not so much lol

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Ha ha ha!

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Covering it won't help if the dirt is already completely saturated. One of the Dirtwurx guys has been posting pics on IG. It looks like they...

Covering it won't help if the dirt is already completely saturated. One of the Dirtwurx guys has been posting pics on IG. It looks like they are trying to build an SX track out of soup. They can't even push jumps with a dozer. They are trying to make what they can with a couple of track hoes.

I love track hoes as much as the next guy...but I would think they'd need a lot more than a couple.

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Was it a Seattle race when Windham was winning with the snow coming down?

Not Seattle. I think salt lake city maybe?  I remember the race though, was pretty cool visuals. 

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Have they even started building yet or will they wait until Thursday?

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1/10/2023 6:56pm

Another subjective opinion on whether or not to reschedule - SX is one of the most dangerous sports on the planet and it's not motocross on mostly natural terrain. Natural terrain sure gets muddy but the water usually drains off. in a stadium there is no place for water to recede.

my vote is to reschedule

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That is freaking hilarious! Swap buggy racing!

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