Sexton to KTM confirmed?

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11/29/2022 9:39pm

No idea what is so hard to understand. It's agent doublespeak. 

By all rights I wouldn't let them test Kenny either, it's a no win situation. FIM has proved to be less than fair with US based racers and nothing good could come of the test. 

"Piss in the cup" 

"Nope, you shit in a hat." 

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11/29/2022 9:39pm

If you have some knowledges in doping, you of course know that Roczen's shape doesn't look very natty Laughing.

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11/29/2022 9:42pm

Maybe I’m alone here but I kind of think it’s a bad look for an agent of professional athletes to be arguing on social media like a teenager. Not trying to defend Ping, putting that out without evidence is pretty shitty but I feel there’s a better way this whole thing could have been handled.

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11/29/2022 9:56pm

As sharp as Astephen sounds in interviews and as poorly written and as angry and childish his response was tells me that maybe Kenny isn't having as good of an off season as I thought, or maybe he is but his agent isn't happy with how he is going about his free agent tour. Rational people usually don't go zero to a hundred like that unless there is something underlying going on. 

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11/29/2022 10:01pm

Astephan made himself look like a kook. Regardless of what the thruth in this is.

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11/29/2022 10:04pm
McG194 wrote:
As sharp as Astephen sounds in interviews and as poorly written and as angry and childish his response was tells me that maybe Kenny isn't having...

As sharp as Astephen sounds in interviews and as poorly written and as angry and childish his response was tells me that maybe Kenny isn't having as good of an off season as I thought, or maybe he is but his agent isn't happy with how he is going about his free agent tour. Rational people usually don't go zero to a hundred like that unless there is something underlying going on. 

Agreed

11/29/2022 10:06pm

Both parties could have handled this issue a 100X more professionally.  I like Ping.  I like KR (don't know the first thing about his agent).  Regardless, not a good look for the anyone.  One of the sports top rider's agent in a social media pissing contest with an industry journo/former rider.  Just not good on all parties.  Someone pick up the damn phone and clean this up off of social media prior to posting a boatload of crap back and forth.

 

Its like a teenage girl fight.  You know nothing really good is going to happen, but for some reason you just can't look away.

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11/29/2022 10:08pm

When did Cooksey start posting for Ping?

This was my first thought reading this stuff lol

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11/29/2022 10:12pm

I am still trying understand what he was trying to say with:

‘The reason we refused is all athletes "out of competition" are less concerned then in competition’
 

The obvious grammatical errors don’t help, but what’s the background on the incident he is talking about? Sounds like something at a WSX round but ping said it was a KTM test he refused?

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11/29/2022 10:12pm Edited Date/Time 11/29/2022 11:11pm

I think this will be a good move for Sexton. Who knows what is going on with KR? I don’t think we really care but, if he refused a drug test, then he’s taking banned supplements. Of course, the WADA is a bloodthirsty organization that with no mercy - 2y 4y or life ban. Can you blame him?

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11/29/2022 10:28pm Edited Date/Time 11/29/2022 10:44pm
Wow, down low, this new version of Vital hits hard as fuck. I like it.
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11/29/2022 11:09pm Edited Date/Time 11/29/2022 11:11pm

Ping is weird man.. Like I'll listen to him on a pod or one of those classic commentaries and he's funny and seems cool.. But then his posting style (here and on social media) just screams of insecure arrogance..

My dad would say he's well balanced, got a chip on both shoulders

Oh also if he says it was just a light hearted bit of banter I'll believe him but if not his response to Wilson was that of a fuckwit 

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11/29/2022 11:37pm Edited Date/Time 11/30/2022 12:39pm
wildbill wrote:
Wow, down low, this new version of Vital hits hard as fuck. I like it.

Besides it takes awhile for likes/dislikes to load on my mobile. 

Edit: and computer

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11/29/2022 11:53pm

Kenny may have ripped the booger sugar after Paris 😜🤙🏻

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I am sad CS may be leaving Honda, but understand the money temptation

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11/30/2022 12:16am
I am still trying understand what he was trying to say with: ‘The reason we refused is all athletes "out of competition" are less concerned then...

I am still trying understand what he was trying to say with:

‘The reason we refused is all athletes "out of competition" are less concerned then in competition’
 

The obvious grammatical errors don’t help, but what’s the background on the incident he is talking about? Sounds like something at a WSX round but ping said it was a KTM test he refused?

So he is using PED just outside of season when they can prepare testing? 

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11/30/2022 2:40am

Ping lost me as a fan over the last couple of years. WTM put out some good stuff and he is good at his job but as a person, I’m out at this point. 
the article and the social media shit show is terrible on both parts. Extremely unprofessional of the agent, he should have just hit WTM with some warning letter and put out an official statement shutting it down, he’s just fucked himself in the comments. 
If he is trying to say what I think he’s trying to say I don’t think Kenny is doing anything down right performance enhancing but in the off season I’m sure he is getting regenekine, certain procedures etc etc to help with healing and his immune issues that, without clear testing protocol being known, could flag something up. 
These tests can flag up if you use steroid cream or if you use the wrong supplement bought at a Holland and Barret. It’s not black and white.

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11/30/2022 2:59am

This display is social media at its core. It’s what it was made for. We are all nothing but attention whores and narcissist at this point. I’m guilty as well. 

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cwel11 wrote:
This display is social media at its core. It’s what it was made for. We are all nothing but attention whores and narcissist at this point...

This display is social media at its core. It’s what it was made for. We are all nothing but attention whores and narcissist at this point. I’m guilty as well. 

I don't know how people waste their time on Instagram and Facebook. Vital is the only social media I can stand to look at and it's only because I like dirt bikes. Not the Bro's that ride them, just the bikes.

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11/30/2022 3:35am Edited Date/Time 11/30/2022 3:40am

Between Whiskey Throttle with their clickbait and conspiracy BS, MXA with their Varner bumming and both of them insulting or clicking people who don't agree or post anything contradictory, thank god for Vital and MX Vice and the few decent outlets.

As for Sexton, I hope they let him do his own thing training wise, guy obviously has that side of things dialled and doesn't need to be under surveillance and run into the ground at a compound by KTM.

I know the Aldon program benefits some, I'm not down talking him, just seems unnecessary here and a potential stress riser.

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11/30/2022 3:58am

Now Ping has doubled down and says he thinks it’s HGH because that’s the only thing a rider would refuse for. When I called him out on that being an absolutely baseless allegation he just replied that he’s allowed to speculate. Looks like we got us a new Cooksey, what a piece of shit. 

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11/30/2022 4:14am
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Star and KTM offer were both on table last time I checked. Not sure how it's all written but I thought I heard he couldn't legally...

Star and KTM offer were both on table last time I checked. Not sure how it's all written but I thought I heard he couldn't legally sign with them anyone yet? Or something along those lines.

I’m gonna blow you for a second Michael. You deserve props for not being a pussy about giving inside info, ever since you took over. Good job. 

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11/30/2022 4:28am

Steve A hasn't done much to help Kenny's career in the last few months.

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11/30/2022 4:49am

A couple of things, obvious things. Kenny needs a new agent, I wondered when the whole Honda/Fox/Red Bull thing was imploding but it is obvious now this guy does not work in Kenny's interest. Or perhaps Kenny is a kook too? Secondly, it's nothing new for Ping to stir the shit in the field, nobody forces anyone to listen to him, he is an odd person with an odd upbringing. Those facts don't make his statements not newsworthy though. Cooksey, Hopper and the like don't come to this sport from a vacuum, "journalists" like that are in MX/SX because of the utter lack of transparency from anyone, fans are starved for any news. Lastly, I think Sexton's move to KTM is a bad move, from the shit 250/Am program, to the insistence on Aldon's facility's, to DeCoster(no disrespect intended) immigrating here with the Mayflower, and the plethora of problems with the new scooter, the team is currently in shambles, it doesn't seem the current management can right things the way they are done now.

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11/30/2022 5:00am Edited Date/Time 11/30/2022 5:03am
McG194 wrote:
No idea what is so hard to understand. It's agent doublespeak.  By all rights I wouldn't let them test Kenny either, it's a no win situation...

No idea what is so hard to understand. It's agent doublespeak. 

By all rights I wouldn't let them test Kenny either, it's a no win situation. FIM has proved to be less than fair with US based racers and nothing good could come of the test. 

"Piss in the cup" 

"Nope, you shit in a hat." 

Literally from the horses mouth but Ping is way off? I'm confused at the outrage towards Ping.

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11/30/2022 5:05am Edited Date/Time 11/30/2022 5:07am
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Both parties could have handled this issue a 100X more professionally.  I like Ping.  I like KR (don't know the first thing about his agent).  Regardless...

Both parties could have handled this issue a 100X more professionally.  I like Ping.  I like KR (don't know the first thing about his agent).  Regardless, not a good look for the anyone.  One of the sports top rider's agent in a social media pissing contest with an industry journo/former rider.  Just not good on all parties.  Someone pick up the damn phone and clean this up off of social media prior to posting a boatload of crap back and forth.

 

Its like a teenage girl fight.  You know nothing really good is going to happen, but for some reason you just can't look away.

Agreed.

Astephen could’ve handled this better than posting an unprofessional knee-jerk reaction laden with spelling/grammatical errors that he should’ve known everyone would nitpick at. And, in my opinion, Ping probably should’ve reached out to Roczen or his camp with this news (if he didn’t, that is) and included a blurb like “we’ve reached out to Roczen’s management, who declined to comment” or something of the like. Instead, this happened, and he and another WT guy just responded to Astephen’s comments with accusations that he’s drunk.

It’s really not a good look for anybody here, lol. 

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11/30/2022 5:10am Edited Date/Time 11/30/2022 5:11am
McG194 wrote:
No idea what is so hard to understand. It's agent doublespeak.  By all rights I wouldn't let them test Kenny either, it's a no win situation...

No idea what is so hard to understand. It's agent doublespeak. 

By all rights I wouldn't let them test Kenny either, it's a no win situation. FIM has proved to be less than fair with US based racers and nothing good could come of the test. 

"Piss in the cup" 

"Nope, you shit in a hat." 

JBlain619 wrote:

Literally from the horses mouth but Ping is way off? I'm confused at the outrage towards Ping.

Astephen goes on to explain (now deleted) that he (not Kenny) initially refused due to lack of protocol. They did end up submitting a test to FIM with negative results. 
 

These are his words not mine, I just happened to catch it last night before it was all deleted. 
 

I think both sides really fucked up this post. Ping shouldn’t have watered down the Chase news by throwing Kenny under the bus with baseless allegations, and Astephen made himself look bad with his initial incoherent ramblings. 

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11/30/2022 5:39am
Spoonguy wrote:
A couple of things, obvious things. Kenny needs a new agent, I wondered when the whole Honda/Fox/Red Bull thing was imploding but it is obvious now...

A couple of things, obvious things. Kenny needs a new agent, I wondered when the whole Honda/Fox/Red Bull thing was imploding but it is obvious now this guy does not work in Kenny's interest. Or perhaps Kenny is a kook too? Secondly, it's nothing new for Ping to stir the shit in the field, nobody forces anyone to listen to him, he is an odd person with an odd upbringing. Those facts don't make his statements not newsworthy though. Cooksey, Hopper and the like don't come to this sport from a vacuum, "journalists" like that are in MX/SX because of the utter lack of transparency from anyone, fans are starved for any news. Lastly, I think Sexton's move to KTM is a bad move, from the shit 250/Am program, to the insistence on Aldon's facility's, to DeCoster(no disrespect intended) immigrating here with the Mayflower, and the plethora of problems with the new scooter, the team is currently in shambles, it doesn't seem the current management can right things the way they are done now.

What does where DeCoster is from have anything to do with your argument? Secondly, theirs nothing wrong with the new chassis Marv did fine on it in SX and won RBSR on it also. 

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11/30/2022 5:40am
Spoonguy wrote:
A couple of things, obvious things. Kenny needs a new agent, I wondered when the whole Honda/Fox/Red Bull thing was imploding but it is obvious now...

A couple of things, obvious things. Kenny needs a new agent, I wondered when the whole Honda/Fox/Red Bull thing was imploding but it is obvious now this guy does not work in Kenny's interest. Or perhaps Kenny is a kook too? Secondly, it's nothing new for Ping to stir the shit in the field, nobody forces anyone to listen to him, he is an odd person with an odd upbringing. Those facts don't make his statements not newsworthy though. Cooksey, Hopper and the like don't come to this sport from a vacuum, "journalists" like that are in MX/SX because of the utter lack of transparency from anyone, fans are starved for any news. Lastly, I think Sexton's move to KTM is a bad move, from the shit 250/Am program, to the insistence on Aldon's facility's, to DeCoster(no disrespect intended) immigrating here with the Mayflower, and the plethora of problems with the new scooter, the team is currently in shambles, it doesn't seem the current management can right things the way they are done now.

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What does where DeCoster is from have anything to do with your argument? Secondly, theirs nothing wrong with the new chassis Marv did fine on it...

What does where DeCoster is from have anything to do with your argument? Secondly, theirs nothing wrong with the new chassis Marv did fine on it in SX and won RBSR on it also. 

I think he meant Roger was old.

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CPan wrote:
Astephen goes on to explain (now deleted) that he (not Kenny) initially refused due to lack of protocol. They did end up submitting a test to...

Astephen goes on to explain (now deleted) that he (not Kenny) initially refused due to lack of protocol. They did end up submitting a test to FIM with negative results. 
 

These are his words not mine, I just happened to catch it last night before it was all deleted. 
 

I think both sides really fucked up this post. Ping shouldn’t have watered down the Chase news by throwing Kenny under the bus with baseless allegations, and Astephen made himself look bad with his initial incoherent ramblings. 

I'd say Kenny won't be riding any more of WT's 2stks after this!

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