Honda Announces EV Plans For 2024 and Beyond...

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Edited Date/Time 9/16/2022 12:04pm
Not any specific moto models mentioned, mostly general info...

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R VanKamp77 9/14/2022 8:01pm
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That electric moped looks so sick, I love the future!
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Honda’s latest ad chronicling their history is pretty damn cool.
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Okay so no Honda E-MX bike until 2026 other than kids bike.
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AceDudemeisterX 9/15/2022 12:20am
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If you buy one will it guarantee you from being “purged” in the great reset?
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blockhead17 9/15/2022 1:24am
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AceDudemeisterX wrote:
If you buy one will it guarantee you from being “purged” in the great reset?
Not if you wear a tin foil helmet..
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AceDudemeisterX 9/15/2022 3:23am
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AceDudemeisterX wrote:
If you buy one will it guarantee you from being “purged” in the great reset?
blockhead17 wrote:
Not if you wear a tin foil helmet..
I’m already wearing the underwear, a hat couldn’t hurt now.
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quadzrulebro 9/15/2022 3:55am
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I’m curious how all this electrification will achieve carbon neutrality. Currently, over 60 percent of the electricity generated in the US comes from burning fossil fuels. I’m no expert, but I’d be willing to bet that the percentage is much greater in the developing countries where Honda sells the vast majority of their scooters and small motorcycles.
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Hman144 9/15/2022 4:22am
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How dare you ask rational questions that expose the dirty secret.
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I just can't wait for the big breaker to pop once everyone plugs their electric everything in for the night. Then we'll all be looking for that liquid that goes into the 1974 Vega to get to a workplace that doesn't have electricity either.
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davis224 9/15/2022 5:28am
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quadzrulebro wrote:
I’m curious how all this electrification will achieve carbon neutrality. Currently, over 60 percent of the electricity generated in the US comes from burning fossil fuels...
I’m curious how all this electrification will achieve carbon neutrality. Currently, over 60 percent of the electricity generated in the US comes from burning fossil fuels. I’m no expert, but I’d be willing to bet that the percentage is much greater in the developing countries where Honda sells the vast majority of their scooters and small motorcycles.
EV's charged from coal fired plants still result in lower emissions than a gas/diesel equivalent, just takes longer for the "payoff". They're dirtier to manufacture, but it equals out depending on the life of the vehicle. The best/most encompassing paper I could find a while back claimed something like over 150k miles, an EV charged on a coal fired grid results in 18% fewer emissions than a comparable ICE vehicle. It's been a couple years since I've read it, but I'll see if I can find it.
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R VanKamp77 9/15/2022 5:29am
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ama530 wrote:
I just can't wait for the big breaker to pop once everyone plugs their electric everything in for the night. Then we'll all be looking for...
I just can't wait for the big breaker to pop once everyone plugs their electric everything in for the night. Then we'll all be looking for that liquid that goes into the 1974 Vega to get to a workplace that doesn't have electricity either.
We'll have electricity because we have a backup generator bahahaha
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HonDawg17 9/15/2022 5:39am
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All the guys on here thinking E bikes are awesome and the future....Do you guys realize the sport of motocross dies if EV takes over? They won't stop at banning the engines, they'll ban ALL motorsports right after they have 1 ev in every sport. Don't get me started on this "carbon neutral" BS...wow.
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ktmdan 9/15/2022 5:57am
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quadzrulebro wrote:
I’m curious how all this electrification will achieve carbon neutrality. Currently, over 60 percent of the electricity generated in the US comes from burning fossil fuels...
I’m curious how all this electrification will achieve carbon neutrality. Currently, over 60 percent of the electricity generated in the US comes from burning fossil fuels. I’m no expert, but I’d be willing to bet that the percentage is much greater in the developing countries where Honda sells the vast majority of their scooters and small motorcycles.
100% of the electricity I get is from non fossil fuel sources in my town. Carbon capture tech is improving for gas powered turbines, some capturing millions of lbs of co2. Nuclear is becoming more viable. Sure it’s not perfect but it’s improving, much faster than Fox News propaganda would have you think.
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quadzrulebro wrote:
I’m curious how all this electrification will achieve carbon neutrality. Currently, over 60 percent of the electricity generated in the US comes from burning fossil fuels...
I’m curious how all this electrification will achieve carbon neutrality. Currently, over 60 percent of the electricity generated in the US comes from burning fossil fuels. I’m no expert, but I’d be willing to bet that the percentage is much greater in the developing countries where Honda sells the vast majority of their scooters and small motorcycles.
davis224 wrote:
EV's charged from coal fired plants still result in lower emissions than a gas/diesel equivalent, just takes longer for the "payoff". They're dirtier to manufacture, but...
EV's charged from coal fired plants still result in lower emissions than a gas/diesel equivalent, just takes longer for the "payoff". They're dirtier to manufacture, but it equals out depending on the life of the vehicle. The best/most encompassing paper I could find a while back claimed something like over 150k miles, an EV charged on a coal fired grid results in 18% fewer emissions than a comparable ICE vehicle. It's been a couple years since I've read it, but I'll see if I can find it.
How dare you post rational information!!
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Jeremy Macduff 9/15/2022 6:08am
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HonDawg17 wrote:
All the guys on here thinking E bikes are awesome and the future....Do you guys realize the sport of motocross dies if EV takes over? They...
All the guys on here thinking E bikes are awesome and the future....Do you guys realize the sport of motocross dies if EV takes over? They won't stop at banning the engines, they'll ban ALL motorsports right after they have 1 ev in every sport. Don't get me started on this "carbon neutral" BS...wow.
You mean like how they now have an entire Formula 1 EV series?
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quadzrulebro wrote:
I’m curious how all this electrification will achieve carbon neutrality. Currently, over 60 percent of the electricity generated in the US comes from burning fossil fuels...
I’m curious how all this electrification will achieve carbon neutrality. Currently, over 60 percent of the electricity generated in the US comes from burning fossil fuels. I’m no expert, but I’d be willing to bet that the percentage is much greater in the developing countries where Honda sells the vast majority of their scooters and small motorcycles.
davis224 wrote:
EV's charged from coal fired plants still result in lower emissions than a gas/diesel equivalent, just takes longer for the "payoff". They're dirtier to manufacture, but...
EV's charged from coal fired plants still result in lower emissions than a gas/diesel equivalent, just takes longer for the "payoff". They're dirtier to manufacture, but it equals out depending on the life of the vehicle. The best/most encompassing paper I could find a while back claimed something like over 150k miles, an EV charged on a coal fired grid results in 18% fewer emissions than a comparable ICE vehicle. It's been a couple years since I've read it, but I'll see if I can find it.
Finally someone sensible on this forum. Electricity generation will only continue to get more efficient, and EV's are already more efficient over their life.

Another thing people don't realize is that it's actually pretty important to generate the emissions OUTSIDE where people live and commute. Power plants generate those emissions in more remote areas where less people breathe. Then there's a chance for the emissions to dissipate before reaching large populations. It results in less health issues and cases of asthma.
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bite_the_curb 9/15/2022 6:24am
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EVs are a scam

there arent enough rare earth metals for everyone to have an electric car/motorcycle

wish they'd invest in gasoline alternatives...
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Sure electric vehicles have some great performance, can’t deny that. I just don’t believe it is the solution and do not trust any report or stats by “professionals”. Do they even have a plan for the waste batteries yet?
They have decommissioned the San Onofre nuclear plant years ago but still do not know what to do with the waste. After charging for the electric production they turn around and charge for decommissioning 😂

The big plan is no plan at all
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R VanKamp77 9/15/2022 8:10am
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Trees have to have carbon dioxide to produce oxygen. Idk if everyone is ready for that kind if information, but it's true.
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JK BRO 9/15/2022 8:28am
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R VanKamp77 wrote:
Trees have to have carbon dioxide to produce oxygen. Idk if everyone is ready for that kind if information, but it's true.
It's called photosynthesis and with the amount of deforestation the tress don't stand a chance. This façade that trees and plants clean up our mess is assnine.


I don't care what side of the "E" movement you're on but don't expect mother nature to clean up your filth.
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Crash81 9/15/2022 8:31am
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R VanKamp77 wrote:
Trees have to have carbon dioxide to produce oxygen. Idk if everyone is ready for that kind if information, but it's true.
You're suggesting we pollute more to better feed the trees?
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ktmdan 9/15/2022 8:36am
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wisey wrote:
Sure electric vehicles have some great performance, can’t deny that. I just don’t believe it is the solution and do not trust any report or stats...
Sure electric vehicles have some great performance, can’t deny that. I just don’t believe it is the solution and do not trust any report or stats by “professionals”. Do they even have a plan for the waste batteries yet?
They have decommissioned the San Onofre nuclear plant years ago but still do not know what to do with the waste. After charging for the electric production they turn around and charge for decommissioning 😂

The big plan is no plan at all
Are you familiar with the NRC and their plans?
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Jonesboys819_828 9/15/2022 8:39am
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quadzrulebro wrote:
I’m curious how all this electrification will achieve carbon neutrality. Currently, over 60 percent of the electricity generated in the US comes from burning fossil fuels...
I’m curious how all this electrification will achieve carbon neutrality. Currently, over 60 percent of the electricity generated in the US comes from burning fossil fuels. I’m no expert, but I’d be willing to bet that the percentage is much greater in the developing countries where Honda sells the vast majority of their scooters and small motorcycles.
davis224 wrote:
EV's charged from coal fired plants still result in lower emissions than a gas/diesel equivalent, just takes longer for the "payoff". They're dirtier to manufacture, but...
EV's charged from coal fired plants still result in lower emissions than a gas/diesel equivalent, just takes longer for the "payoff". They're dirtier to manufacture, but it equals out depending on the life of the vehicle. The best/most encompassing paper I could find a while back claimed something like over 150k miles, an EV charged on a coal fired grid results in 18% fewer emissions than a comparable ICE vehicle. It's been a couple years since I've read it, but I'll see if I can find it.
Crash81 wrote:
Finally someone sensible on this forum. Electricity generation will only continue to get more efficient, and EV's are already more efficient over their life. Another thing...
Finally someone sensible on this forum. Electricity generation will only continue to get more efficient, and EV's are already more efficient over their life.

Another thing people don't realize is that it's actually pretty important to generate the emissions OUTSIDE where people live and commute. Power plants generate those emissions in more remote areas where less people breathe. Then there's a chance for the emissions to dissipate before reaching large populations. It results in less health issues and cases of asthma.
This issue isn't if an EV vs. ICE, it that it's being pushed from the top down from all across the globe. Banning something to force people with only one solution is never a good thing. Let the market decide what's the best for them, and if EV is seen as being a better product for a better price, then the market will see that, and move to it. And if you think the reasoning is for environmental reasons, you haven't been to India, China, Russia or most middle east countries. They give 0 F's when it comes to the environment. Allow these companies to make/sale both, and see what their sales numbers say, then make a decision on what's better to sale. It's really that simple.
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SonofThor32 9/15/2022 8:44am
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We didn't get enough division and hate from the covid mess here. I guess folks must have missed it, these EV threads are headed the same direction.
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quadzrulebro wrote:
I’m curious how all this electrification will achieve carbon neutrality. Currently, over 60 percent of the electricity generated in the US comes from burning fossil fuels...
I’m curious how all this electrification will achieve carbon neutrality. Currently, over 60 percent of the electricity generated in the US comes from burning fossil fuels. I’m no expert, but I’d be willing to bet that the percentage is much greater in the developing countries where Honda sells the vast majority of their scooters and small motorcycles.
davis224 wrote:
EV's charged from coal fired plants still result in lower emissions than a gas/diesel equivalent, just takes longer for the "payoff". They're dirtier to manufacture, but...
EV's charged from coal fired plants still result in lower emissions than a gas/diesel equivalent, just takes longer for the "payoff". They're dirtier to manufacture, but it equals out depending on the life of the vehicle. The best/most encompassing paper I could find a while back claimed something like over 150k miles, an EV charged on a coal fired grid results in 18% fewer emissions than a comparable ICE vehicle. It's been a couple years since I've read it, but I'll see if I can find it.
Crash81 wrote:
Finally someone sensible on this forum. Electricity generation will only continue to get more efficient, and EV's are already more efficient over their life. Another thing...
Finally someone sensible on this forum. Electricity generation will only continue to get more efficient, and EV's are already more efficient over their life.

Another thing people don't realize is that it's actually pretty important to generate the emissions OUTSIDE where people live and commute. Power plants generate those emissions in more remote areas where less people breathe. Then there's a chance for the emissions to dissipate before reaching large populations. It results in less health issues and cases of asthma.
EVs being pushed onto society has little to nothing to do with "air pollution".
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SGoodman 9/15/2022 8:49am
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Electric is different... it can do things gas can not... so quiet! So much power!

However...

it comes with massive downsides.... with the biggest being dependence on CHINA for raw materials....

I dig electric.. but not when it is powered by coal and makes us dependent on CHINA.....
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quadzrulebro wrote:
I’m curious how all this electrification will achieve carbon neutrality. Currently, over 60 percent of the electricity generated in the US comes from burning fossil fuels...
I’m curious how all this electrification will achieve carbon neutrality. Currently, over 60 percent of the electricity generated in the US comes from burning fossil fuels. I’m no expert, but I’d be willing to bet that the percentage is much greater in the developing countries where Honda sells the vast majority of their scooters and small motorcycles.
That’s not what you should be focusing on. Or the horribly destructive process of mining and manufacturing for the batteries, or their disposal. Go green!
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wisey wrote:
Sure electric vehicles have some great performance, can’t deny that. I just don’t believe it is the solution and do not trust any report or stats...
Sure electric vehicles have some great performance, can’t deny that. I just don’t believe it is the solution and do not trust any report or stats by “professionals”. Do they even have a plan for the waste batteries yet?
They have decommissioned the San Onofre nuclear plant years ago but still do not know what to do with the waste. After charging for the electric production they turn around and charge for decommissioning 😂

The big plan is no plan at all
ktmdan wrote:
Are you familiar with the NRC and their plans?
No I don’t keep up on it. Last I heard they are spreading low level waste around the country and putting spent fuel in containers to be left indefinitely.
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Crash81 9/15/2022 11:38am
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Jonesboys819_828 wrote:
This issue isn't if an EV vs. ICE, it that it's being pushed from the top down from all across the globe. Banning something to force...
This issue isn't if an EV vs. ICE, it that it's being pushed from the top down from all across the globe. Banning something to force people with only one solution is never a good thing. Let the market decide what's the best for them, and if EV is seen as being a better product for a better price, then the market will see that, and move to it. And if you think the reasoning is for environmental reasons, you haven't been to India, China, Russia or most middle east countries. They give 0 F's when it comes to the environment. Allow these companies to make/sale both, and see what their sales numbers say, then make a decision on what's better to sale. It's really that simple.
China cares deeply about their environment. They know pollution is a major problem, and that can be converted quite easily into money wasted. It makes sense financially to care about human health, that's why the MARKET is dictating this. It's not being pushed.
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