Anyone have video of Barcia taking Ferrandis down?

EnvyMedia 8/22/2022 1:31pm
8/22/2022 1:31pm
TheDennisSystem wrote:
Can’t believe Ferrandis made a post crying about that.
Ferrandis didn’t have the luxury to watch a gopro video over and over though. Things always seem worse in the heat of moment. Especially when you’re in it as a pro racer.
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ACBraap 8/22/2022 1:34pm
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145mx wrote:
Barcia should have posted the DF14 fisting CC28 from SX a few years ago and just said "pot, meet kettle"
the difference between Barcia and every other aggressive rider is he only does after being passed. The others are aggressive as they move forward through the field.
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Dirty Points 8/22/2022 1:40pm
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145mx wrote:
Barcia should have posted the DF14 fisting CC28 from SX a few years ago and just said "pot, meet kettle"
ACBraap wrote:
the difference between Barcia and every other aggressive rider is he only does after being passed. The others are aggressive as they move forward through the...
the difference between Barcia and every other aggressive rider is he only does after being passed. The others are aggressive as they move forward through the field.
The other big difference is Bam Bam clearly doesn't like being hit, himself.

Contrast to Jason Anderson who is obviously a very physical passer, but always takes the "Aww shucks" response when he takes a hit.
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Black Diesel Bomber 8/22/2022 1:46pm
8/22/2022 1:46pm
Barcia is innocent this time even though he took out my fantasy rider. Stop the Barcia bashing and let's get back to appreciating him until he punts someone dirty again:

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Hcallz5 8/22/2022 1:46pm
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Looked to me like Dylan kinda pushed him left so he couldn’t really get stopped for the next corner. Not sure it’s really anyones fault just seems like a racing incident to me.

You wanna see a Tbone watch that sx when musquin hits tomac.
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Judging by that video, I can't see the full story.. So I'm on the fence
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toroP 8/22/2022 1:49pm
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toroP wrote:
No judgment until I see 3rd person footage.
byke wrote:
But if you're an official, you have to go off of what information you have and with what we have, would you be for the DQ?
I’m not an official
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FGR01 8/22/2022 1:50pm
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Some of you have never been to Budds before, and it shows.

For a little reference, here's the relative path of each rider, the point of the bump off the track and the point of collision.

You can't really ascertain from that video 1) the angle of Barcia's line relative to the direction of the track and 2) How wide the track is there and that he likely could have grabbed the brakes and carved left in the direction of the track instead of going straight, all the way to the outside of the corner to intercept Ferrandis.


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prozach 8/22/2022 2:08pm
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I mean ferrandis clearly has a wheel on him on the first pass, Barcia doesn't really shut off and goes off track. Then Barcia cuts the...
I mean ferrandis clearly has a wheel on him on the first pass, Barcia doesn't really shut off and goes off track. Then Barcia cuts the inside of the next turn and tbones the guy who didn't cut the inside of the turn. I can see how Dylan is mad. I can also see how Barcia can say he was just pushed off and contact happened when he entered...

But he did cut the inside of the turn, which gave him the advantage to be able to cut off Dylans line. 🤷‍♀️

Hard to know intent... But his reputation probably didn't help
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You lose all credibility when you say it was a "tbone"
Have you not seen the picture? Lol.
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Hcallz5 wrote:
Looked to me like Dylan kinda pushed him left so he couldn’t really get stopped for the next corner. Not sure it’s really anyones fault just...
Looked to me like Dylan kinda pushed him left so he couldn’t really get stopped for the next corner. Not sure it’s really anyones fault just seems like a racing incident to me.

You wanna see a Tbone watch that sx when musquin hits tomac.
I agree. I think the pass Ferrandis put on Barcia in the first moto was aggressive and dangerous. I’m sure Barcia didn’t appreciate it. I normally would be pissed at Barcia, but I’m not this time.
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MPJC 8/22/2022 2:11pm
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145mx wrote:
Barcia should have posted the DF14 fisting CC28 from SX a few years ago and just said "pot, meet kettle"
I'd rather not see a fisting
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Markee 8/22/2022 2:13pm
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FGR01 wrote:
Some of you have never been to Budds before, and it shows. For a little reference, here's the relative path of each rider, the point of...
Some of you have never been to Budds before, and it shows.

For a little reference, here's the relative path of each rider, the point of the bump off the track and the point of collision.

You can't really ascertain from that video 1) the angle of Barcia's line relative to the direction of the track and 2) How wide the track is there and that he likely could have grabbed the brakes and carved left in the direction of the track instead of going straight, all the way to the outside of the corner to intercept Ferrandis.


I have and because of my experience can see this on barcia's side. That corner DF touched barcia is like riding on ice, the instinct is to stand the bike up for traction which sends Justin into the apex with intent to kill, it's too easy at that point for barcia to say "hello" back.
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LungButter 8/22/2022 2:17pm
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prozach wrote:
Have you not seen the picture? Lol.
Please show me a picture of this “t bone”
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TriRacer27 8/22/2022 2:24pm
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FGR01 wrote:
Some of you have never been to Budds before, and it shows. For a little reference, here's the relative path of each rider, the point of...
Some of you have never been to Budds before, and it shows.

For a little reference, here's the relative path of each rider, the point of the bump off the track and the point of collision.

You can't really ascertain from that video 1) the angle of Barcia's line relative to the direction of the track and 2) How wide the track is there and that he likely could have grabbed the brakes and carved left in the direction of the track instead of going straight, all the way to the outside of the corner to intercept Ferrandis.


Been there.


The thing about it is that he seems to bounce off of the pile of dirt on the inside of the corner, which would make it very difficult to make the inside line. All day there were max 2 lines through there, 1 on the inside that kept getting blown out and one on the outside. If you bounce and cant make the inside, just about any rider would have drifted out to the outside berm to get some drive for the downhill triple.
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LoudLove 8/22/2022 2:29pm
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Does Ferrandis give the impression as a guy who quits due to a relatively benign incident? He’s kinda built a reputation as the exact opposite. It leads someone to think that maybe there’s more to the story than an innocent block pass.

Barcia’s betting that no other footage exists. There are numerous examples of him laying off the brakes and intercepting the race line at a 90 degree angle, which appears to be the case here. Admittedly the GoPro footage looks like a non-issue, but DQs are so harsh and so rare that there must be additional evidence.
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Shaft721 8/22/2022 2:35pm
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Wow Ferrandis is a winey cry baby. That was hardly a t bone. Way to make it sound like he completely cleaned him out. He barely hit him. Sorry but I expected something way worse…. Can’t believe Bracia was DQd for that.

Grow a pair ferrandis.
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byke 8/22/2022 2:35pm
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toroP wrote:
No judgment until I see 3rd person footage.
byke wrote:
But if you're an official, you have to go off of what information you have and with what we have, would you be for the DQ?
toroP wrote:
I’m not an official
Duh. The point is, when you don't have enough information to form an opinion, then you have to default to not doing anything. Don't really need to be an official to know that. Any US citizen would certainly know it.
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TriRacer27 8/22/2022 2:39pm
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Here's some screenshots for those of you rushing to judgement without watching the race. The last pic is what that part of the track looked like on the lap that they collided. As you can see, there is no "inside" line that he cut across. In many of the other photos, you can see riders who went from the very inside line of the turn and drifting way outside to the berm to pivot.

You can also clearly see the mound of dirt on the inside of the turn that he landed on, which should tell you it would've been more difficult to make the inside of that corner.







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Dirt.Squirt 8/22/2022 2:43pm
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FGR01 wrote:
Some of you have never been to Budds before, and it shows. For a little reference, here's the relative path of each rider, the point of...
Some of you have never been to Budds before, and it shows.

For a little reference, here's the relative path of each rider, the point of the bump off the track and the point of collision.

You can't really ascertain from that video 1) the angle of Barcia's line relative to the direction of the track and 2) How wide the track is there and that he likely could have grabbed the brakes and carved left in the direction of the track instead of going straight, all the way to the outside of the corner to intercept Ferrandis.


That’s not quite the path barcia took. If he had went through the grass he would have taken out the banners, he barely even went off track
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Brad460 8/22/2022 3:02pm
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Barcia 100% clean here..

DF drove him off slightly off the track…

MX Sports made a bad call and should apologize to Barcia.

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mxridr 8/22/2022 3:04pm
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whoa, new perspective

https://www.instagram.com/p/Chkf79XNVKQ/

To me this looks like Ferrandis is the reason Barcia was "off the track" and upon re-entering, there was un intentional contact.

Not a blatant take out IMO
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Dhallmark 8/22/2022 3:10pm
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Don’t leave the inside open, especially with JB51. If you don’t understand that then moto is not for you, take up golf or tennis
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GrapeApe 8/22/2022 3:12pm
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I can't tell shit from DF's photos or Barcia's GoPro. It will be interesting to see what the AMA says in its post race report.
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yak651 8/22/2022 3:14pm
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FGR01 wrote:
Some of you have never been to Budds before, and it shows. For a little reference, here's the relative path of each rider, the point of...
Some of you have never been to Budds before, and it shows.

For a little reference, here's the relative path of each rider, the point of the bump off the track and the point of collision.

You can't really ascertain from that video 1) the angle of Barcia's line relative to the direction of the track and 2) How wide the track is there and that he likely could have grabbed the brakes and carved left in the direction of the track instead of going straight, all the way to the outside of the corner to intercept Ferrandis.


So your saying DF didn’t stay in his “lane”??
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SEE ARE125 8/22/2022 3:17pm
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“i wAs taKinG tHat LinE eVerY Lap. No iDea wHat thAt dUdE’s PrOblEm iS or wHy hE puLLed ouT iN frOnt oF mE.” - Barcia probably
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quadzrulebro 8/22/2022 3:18pm
8/22/2022 3:18pm
100% on Dylan. He tried to push Justin left when he tried to pass, knowing that Justin would control the inside in the next left corner. If Justin even bumped Dylan, it wasn’t with his front tire. The AMA owes Bam an apology and Dylan should have waited to see the footage before going public with his whiny Instagram post. Bam’s front wheel never touched him, and if it did, it was only because Dylan was dumb enough to try to pass Bam Bam on the outside after pushing him wide in the corner before.
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SmokinJoe439 8/22/2022 3:20pm
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Did not re enter the track in a safe manner since he was off the course is the ruling they will give. Since he was behind the yellow markers. Re entered then hit ferrandis.
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Warlock 8/22/2022 3:26pm
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SGoodman wrote:
It was really nice over the weekend being an SX only viewer..... which means.. I didn't have to watch any moto over the weekend! got a...
It was really nice over the weekend being an SX only viewer..... which means.. I didn't have to watch any moto over the weekend! got a lot of stuff done... even got in a lot of riding for a change!! I really dig getting a few hours back on Saturday!

With that said... i log on to Vital on Monday morning to see that Dumb Dumb has struck again! LOL... I see it as- he has the speed, but is unwilling to give the effort to be even a top 5 guy outdoors... so Dumb Dumb basically took the summer off...

However... Dumb Dumb needs content for his YouTube channel and finishing "Ninth and tenth" every weekend just ain't cutting it.... LOL... so Dumb Dumb had to send it into DF14 to get some "kick ass content"..

So then.. it gets real F-d up when whatever the F the AMA is now days decides to step in.... the "WTF-AMA" decided to DQ Dumb Dumb which has zero precedence and there is no evidence to show to Dumb Dumb's team... After Lorettas, we now know the "WTF-AMA" are crooked as Epstein..... did Star just start whining, then the WTF-AMA bowed and DQ'ed Dumb Dumb or what?? all sorts of crooked in this deal... we'll never see the behind the scenes on this one... but after LLs, now we all know what's truly up...
This is really JSloan, right?
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LoudLove 8/22/2022 3:29pm
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Has the party (AMA? MX Sports?) released a statement? Also, how many DQs have been issued over the past 10 years? I’m also curious if Barcia’s GoPro was reviewed by the organization issuing the DQ.
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