Brennan Schofield interview about his Deegan bike claim!

8/12/2022 8:01pm Edited Date/Time 8/12/2022 8:06pm
USA wrote:
The kid says he even told Cotter that it was NOT his own idea to rescind the claim and that he was being forced. What a...
The kid says he even told Cotter that it was NOT his own idea to rescind the claim and that he was being forced. What a load of shit for Cotter to turn around and tell Weigandt "the kid said he was not pressured."

Even Weigandt is caught in the crosshairs on this one, he's a journalist for Racer X and spread false information on the biggest radio show due to him not doing proper research.
ML512 wrote:
The line gets very thin here. In the moment the kid may have said he wasn't pressured, he may have not said it wasn't his own...
The line gets very thin here. In the moment the kid may have said he wasn't pressured, he may have not said it wasn't his own idea but is now saying it.

It's one's own words versus another.

I'm not saying either is lying, I'm just saying to take one person's words as fact over the other without a witness or other form of proof is tough. At that point, it's just making your own opinion of the situation and going with it.

As an add on from my original response. I think we've all been there when young and under pressure. He may have wanted to say more in the moment but just tried to get through it without creating much more of an issue...and is now more comfortable talking about. I know I've been there and I'm sure many can relate, especially around that age and when dealing with more adults.
There is no doubt in my mind that the kid is NOT lying, No matter what the kids motive really are, those are the rules regarding claiming, that all must obey.

Stand over anyone with a knife and the will say what you tell them to. ( Metephore)

Ban the all, give em 5 years.

I cant imagine the bullying John Roeder received 40 years ago.
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8/12/2022 8:01pm
VRR7 wrote:
Motocross riders are the worst ! Their main bike dream is to "get sponsored" - Which means get shit for free. Now Yamaha are running a...
Motocross riders are the worst !
Their main bike dream is to "get sponsored" - Which means get shit for free.
Now Yamaha are running a program. Advertising if you will. Star racing. Star racing have been doing very well and doing good for Yamaha the very reason for this incident. Everyone wants a YZ250F now and thinks it is the best. Now a rider that also races and is sponsored by Yamaha wants to threaten that program because he is Jealous and it is a problem because Yamaha is over zealous testing running "works" bike etc in their program. Never the less it is how everything is funded bike sales advertising the sport etc. It is amazing how most people on this thread want to take down Yamaha who are part of keeping the very sport they partake in down. If a Dumb AS jealous kid wants to but for no reason than own selfish motives. I want to ride a Star racing bike , but I am not good enough but so I will pull a legal stunt . The every one get mad when Yamaha pulls a legal stunt to protect their program which everyone in the sport indirectly benefits from. Everyone rushes to support the selfish entity against that which supports the sport more broadly. I want to sponsored I want free stuff . BUT where does the money come from ? It comes from the industry that makes money and has enough money to support racing and sponsorship. Destroy the industry and guess what less racing less sponsorship. My worst is when riders who are sponsored do not behave professionally. They are being paid. By trashing or threatening the very brand that supports them. Thereby making it worse for everyone else who want to race get sponsored etc etc.
Like I said from an industry stand point Motocross riders are the worst customers to deal with because their big dream is give me free stuff while we bad mouth you trying to make a living or success of a business. Road racers are not like that at all ! They are happy to pay and are grateful for services. It is just how it is. This thread just proves these points.
The problem is, strong arming a minor isn’t legal.
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8/12/2022 8:04pm
DA498 wrote:
Only from cheaters
I’m still confused at how Deegans are cheaters? Lol
They're not. That's not the allegation. It was about getting a killer bike for $17k
Kid should have got that bike 100%.
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8/12/2022 8:08pm
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I just think that’s a loose term. The factory amateurs are still on “factory bikes” even if they aren’t “pro factory bikes”. While they are not...
I just think that’s a loose term. The factory amateurs are still on “factory bikes” even if they aren’t “pro factory bikes”. While they are not the $100K+ bikes like the professionals ride, the top “factory” amateur bikes are still over $40,000. I would call one of those factory kid’s $40K+ bikes a “factory bike” if I was on that level. If you’re all amateurs, someone like Hymas or Deegan is on a “factory bike” to a privateer.

Maybe a better way to say it is if you’re a privateer am, someone on the PC or Star or HRC team has a factory bike compared to your privateer am bike.

And if you want to dip deeper into the side of the story we don’t know, perhaps Deegan’s bike was actually running a pro Star motor (not illegal, but still coveted) and why this entire situation has unfolded and what he meant when he said “not realizing it was a [pro] factory bike”.
I have considered that
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8/12/2022 8:09pm
ProKawi24 wrote:
It's getting more interesting now. Brennan says it was him, Cotter, and Deegan in the room for 30 minutes but now DC is saying AMA official...
It's getting more interesting now. Brennan says it was him, Cotter, and Deegan in the room for 30 minutes but now DC is saying AMA official Mike Burkeen was also in the room and it was only 5 minutes.

Curious to see where this whole thing goes now especially if ML is able to talk with those involved. In my opinion this will just result in a "my word against theirs" situation and nothing will come from it. Maybe I'm wrong but realistically nobody is going to admit to any wrong doing and without actual evidence it really can't be escalated any further.
aeffertz wrote:
Well if Brennan’s statements are untrue, it could be a pretty straight forward defamation case that Yamaha could easily pursue, especially with the handful of first...
Well if Brennan’s statements are untrue, it could be a pretty straight forward defamation case that Yamaha could easily pursue, especially with the handful of first hand witnesses, which is why I tend to believe he wouldn’t lie about something as extreme as what seems to be extortion claims.
Yamaha had better get their legal time involved ASAP and do some digging because there's likely some shit that they don't want to come out during the "discovery process". I've had to live through the discovery process in business and nothing will get past it. They will look at cell phone records, text messages, phone call records, emails, interview dealership managers and employees, telephone records, etc. All of it comes out in court and it will be blatantly obvious who's lying and who's telling the truth. The truth always comes out in situations like this if it goes down the legal path.

If what Brennan said is accurate (which should easy to verify), heads need to roll on the Yamaha side. Its disgusting, frankly. Fuck Yamaha. As for the Deegan's, I'll never support any manufacturer he rides for.
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Having been in professional sales in a previous life, one of the first things you learn is:
never have two sales people talking to one customer.
Subconsciously the customer will feel ganged up on, two against one.
That is first day stuff.

Two adults questioning a 17-year-old is not defensible
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8/12/2022 8:16pm
Bruce372 wrote:
My biggest concern is he will get black balled
DA498 wrote:
Only from cheaters
I’m still confused at how Deegans are cheaters? Lol
I get it, you met Deegan. Lol
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8/12/2022 8:18pm
Just when I think I’m a total pos I read about tim cotter, Yamaha and the deegans, that was refreshing, I’m not that bad after all.
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8/12/2022 8:19pm
I loved the part where Haiden Deegan and his buddies pulled up to Brennan’s pit in a side-by-side like Johnny Lawrence and Cobra Kai
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8/12/2022 8:20pm
ctbale wrote:
After watching the video, I think the kid is 100% credible. Brian Deagan and Cotter in a room alone with a 17 year old minor for...
After watching the video, I think the kid is 100% credible. Brian Deagan and Cotter in a room alone with a 17 year old minor for 30 minutes? Let that last sentence sink in..... Holy fuck fuck fuck. That really makes me sick. Even more than the half dozen other disgusting things that occurred. I believe this young man is telling it truthfully how it went down. Sickining.
ProKawi24 wrote:
It's getting more interesting now. Brennan says it was him, Cotter, and Deegan in the room for 30 minutes but now DC is saying AMA official...
It's getting more interesting now. Brennan says it was him, Cotter, and Deegan in the room for 30 minutes but now DC is saying AMA official Mike Burkeen was also in the room and it was only 5 minutes.

Curious to see where this whole thing goes now especially if ML is able to talk with those involved. In my opinion this will just result in a "my word against theirs" situation and nothing will come from it. Maybe I'm wrong but realistically nobody is going to admit to any wrong doing and without actual evidence it really can't be escalated any further.
Yamaha will need to discredit the kid. Expect the dealer the kid protected to claim no knowledge of the incident. The kid got in the ring way outside his weight and will take his lumps. Hopefully, his future silence on the matter will be compensated in some fashion. His motocross future is more than likely limited to local races unless Dad has some deep pockets. I hate it for him. Gotta admire his moxie!
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8/12/2022 8:25pm
So many questions..I’ll start with..
1. Why was Matt Walker mad at this kid or even involved? He trained him for 3 years and it sounds like he didn’t even try to have this kids back. Does Walker have a connection to Yamaha or Deegans?
2. Has anyone confirmed the dealership was actually contacted by Yamaha? Or was this some Yamaha guy stomping around saying “we could rescind the dealerships license”? In other words, did this yamaha rep really have Corporate backing or was he just an over-zealous rep making threats in the heat of it?
3. How much time was between regionals and LL? Bike would have cost $11K at regionals, but he said he didn’t have the $$ then. How’d he earn $6K in a few weeks?!? I guess I’m not convinced someone didn’t “help” him get that last bit!
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Bruce372 wrote:
My biggest concern is he will get black balled
DA498 wrote:
Only from cheaters
I’m still confused at how Deegans are cheaters? Lol
I guess we;ll never know as they did everything they good to not let the bike out of their possession.
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8/12/2022 8:32pm
okbyenow wrote:
So many questions..I’ll start with.. 1. Why was Matt Walker mad at this kid or even involved? He trained him for 3 years and it sounds...
So many questions..I’ll start with..
1. Why was Matt Walker mad at this kid or even involved? He trained him for 3 years and it sounds like he didn’t even try to have this kids back. Does Walker have a connection to Yamaha or Deegans?
2. Has anyone confirmed the dealership was actually contacted by Yamaha? Or was this some Yamaha guy stomping around saying “we could rescind the dealerships license”? In other words, did this yamaha rep really have Corporate backing or was he just an over-zealous rep making threats in the heat of it?
3. How much time was between regionals and LL? Bike would have cost $11K at regionals, but he said he didn’t have the $$ then. How’d he earn $6K in a few weeks?!? I guess I’m not convinced someone didn’t “help” him get that last bit!
Yeah idk what the deal was with walker. And why that’s not a bigger deal on all of this. The guy could have approached his customer literally any other way and it would have been a better outcome
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8/12/2022 8:33pm Edited Date/Time 8/12/2022 8:34pm
To the kid that made the claim, I only wanna say- next time please pull out your cell and go youtube Live!! Proof in court, and worth mad views for your channel!

Oh and... mad respect for trying to keep the factory guys in check at the amateur level...!
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8/12/2022 8:35pm
okbyenow wrote:
So many questions..I’ll start with.. 1. Why was Matt Walker mad at this kid or even involved? He trained him for 3 years and it sounds...
So many questions..I’ll start with..
1. Why was Matt Walker mad at this kid or even involved? He trained him for 3 years and it sounds like he didn’t even try to have this kids back. Does Walker have a connection to Yamaha or Deegans?
2. Has anyone confirmed the dealership was actually contacted by Yamaha? Or was this some Yamaha guy stomping around saying “we could rescind the dealerships license”? In other words, did this yamaha rep really have Corporate backing or was he just an over-zealous rep making threats in the heat of it?
3. How much time was between regionals and LL? Bike would have cost $11K at regionals, but he said he didn’t have the $$ then. How’d he earn $6K in a few weeks?!? I guess I’m not convinced someone didn’t “help” him get that last bit!
"1. Why was Matt Walker mad at this kid or even involved? He trained him for 3 years and it sounds like he didn’t even try to have this kids back."

I was curious about that as well.
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I thought a great deal about this issue.

1) The rule seems like a good rule in order to keep a somewhat level playing field.

2) Brennan did not end up with the bike even though he had the money and followed the rules.

3) The Yamaha rider did not give up the bike following the rules.

4) Mx Sports should had nothing to do with this situation as it was an AMA issue.

Because of the above facts the AMA should level penalties against Mx Sports, Star Yamaha, and then the rider "Deegan" per the rules. The rule is they must give up the bike and they did not honor the rule. They put up a fight not wanting to give up the bike and that means they broke the rules. The AMA should make a statement and soon! Failure to do so will result in bigger problems next year I would bet.
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And about walker... many in the moto community have given him a second chance... but thirds are damn hard to come by....
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8/12/2022 8:36pm Edited Date/Time 8/12/2022 8:37pm
DA498 wrote:
Only from cheaters
I’m still confused at how Deegans are cheaters? Lol
RonSkj wrote:
I guess we;ll never know as they did everything they good to not let the bike out of their possession.
But it’s a mod class. How else would he be cheating? I understand people being mad at Cotter and all that. But at the same time HD38 is a 16 year old, should I say “minor” as it keeps getting thrown around on here. What does he have to do with it and why do people hate him for it?
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I’m still confused at how Deegans are cheaters? Lol
RonSkj wrote:
I guess we;ll never know as they did everything they good to not let the bike out of their possession.
But it’s a mod class. How else would he be cheating? I understand people being mad at Cotter and all that. But at the same time...
But it’s a mod class. How else would he be cheating? I understand people being mad at Cotter and all that. But at the same time HD38 is a 16 year old, should I say “minor” as it keeps getting thrown around on here. What does he have to do with it and why do people hate him for it?
Got nothing to do with cheating and no one hates HD because of it.
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Yeah idk what the deal was with walker. And why that’s not a bigger deal on all of this. The guy could have approached his customer...
Yeah idk what the deal was with walker. And why that’s not a bigger deal on all of this. The guy could have approached his customer literally any other way and it would have been a better outcome
Maybe Luce got to Walker before Walker could get to Brennan and then the good ole boys club comes into play. Walker decides to drop any loyalty he has with Brennan to stay on the inside.

Matt looks like crap on this.
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8/12/2022 8:46pm
Matt needs to say something. Who would want their kid to train with him now?
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8/12/2022 8:48pm Edited Date/Time 8/12/2022 8:52pm
The worse part is the Deegans will post a video about it at some point laughing it off and acting like it was all blown out of proportion and it’s no big deal.

The ethics of it all it what really bothers me, I guess some peoples moral standards are just lower than others and see no issue with what happened.

I know if my kid was racing LL’s in 2023 I’d be bringing a fat stack of cash to get a factory bike.
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8/12/2022 8:51pm Edited Date/Time 8/12/2022 9:01pm
DA498 wrote:
Only from cheaters
I’m still confused at how Deegans are cheaters? Lol
DA498 wrote:
I get it, you met Deegan. Lol
Never spoke to Haiden but I did talk to Brian at MXDN on 2018. Even drink Coors light with him after he pulled over his trophy truck. Don’t know him for shit other than that though. Question is valid. I operate on facts, not cancel culture of a 16 year old and his dad.
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8/12/2022 8:53pm
RonSkj wrote:
I guess we;ll never know as they did everything they good to not let the bike out of their possession.
But it’s a mod class. How else would he be cheating? I understand people being mad at Cotter and all that. But at the same time...
But it’s a mod class. How else would he be cheating? I understand people being mad at Cotter and all that. But at the same time HD38 is a 16 year old, should I say “minor” as it keeps getting thrown around on here. What does he have to do with it and why do people hate him for it?
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Got nothing to do with cheating and no one hates HD because of it.
Its cheating in the sense that Star was adamant in not letting their bike go and pressured Brennan into dropping it.
And at this point they arent making themselves look like they weren’t. Semantics
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8/12/2022 8:54pm
I was seriously thinking of getting a Yamaha this year. I’ll never buy shit from that company again.
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Matt needs to say something. Who would want their kid to train with him now?
100% need to hear Matt’s side because at the moment he looks like deegans bitch, and not be be trusted by anyone in the racing scene.
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8/12/2022 8:55pm
gt80rider wrote:
And about walker... many in the moto community have given him a second chance... but thirds are damn hard to come by....
you may be thinking of Kevin
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8/12/2022 8:59pm
You will never get the full truth.

Ever seen the show The Righteous Gemstones on HBO? That’s the Coombs family and MX Sports.

MX Sports, DMG, RacerX, AMA Pro Racing…. They are all so intertwined. Hard to know where one ends and another begins.

Literally the biggest incident at Loretta Lynn’s in a decade and DC has little involvement? I mean was he out pounding in stakes during this?

What the hell is going on? Where the hell was the PRESIDENT of MX Sports to ensure all rules, procedures, and processes were being followed???

Complete lack of leadership and fairness to all participants at LL.

These are the same people who pay the bills at RacerX. You think you are going to get DC to get to the bottom of this? No. This happened at HIS event.

This is crazy how it all turned out. Embarrassment is an understatement.
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Stars the worst
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Well I was going to buy myself a new bike over the winter. But I guess I’ll just wait until regionals and get a much nicer bike for a few grand more 😝
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