Brennan Schofield interview about his Deegan bike claim!

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8/12/2022 7:30pm Edited Date/Time 8/12/2022 7:33pm
ML512 wrote:
We should be speaking to Cotter in the next day or two...reached out to Donnie Luce and Brian Deegan. We'll see if there's any response...
Good for you! You will have a great career as a Motocross Journalist if you keep this up.

As far as getting those responses...I think the chance for them to "get out in front of the story" has already sailed....seams like their option is either 1. What the young man said is accurate. or 2. call the kid a liar
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8/12/2022 7:31pm
He lost his sponsors today.
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8/12/2022 7:32pm
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The next week is going to be a referendum on the objectivity of the Moto media, the AMA, and MX Sports amateur racing. If Pulp or...
The next week is going to be a referendum on the objectivity of the Moto media, the AMA, and MX Sports amateur racing. If Pulp or Weege ignores it or takes the Mfg line, I can’t support any of them again.
It's incredibly ironic that Pulp now toes the company line, when he started out as a media outsider that wasn't afraid to say his opinion, even if it got him in hot water.
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*MxSports is a fucking clown show.

The supercross series has never looked more professional.
Hard not to think anything but negatively about MX Sports after everything they have done this summer. This is the cherry on top of the whole...
Hard not to think anything but negatively about MX Sports after everything they have done this summer. This is the cherry on top of the whole mess. I'm guessing DC is going to be mia from Vital for a long time now
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Yep and it’s going to be the fault of the vitards for driving him away. Who are we to ask for explanations for everything going on...
Yep and it’s going to be the fault of the vitards for driving him away. Who are we to ask for explanations for everything going on this summer
We're the consumers of his product

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studworx wrote:
Rules are rules. If a claim is made, and money is received the deal is done.

There should be no further conversation.

Inexcusable behaviour.
Does it really say in the rule book that you can rescind the claim once the money is paid? Seams like a simple...all claims are final would solve this mess
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ctbale wrote:
After watching the video, I think the kid is 100% credible. Brian Deagan and Cotter in a room alone with a 17 year old minor for...
After watching the video, I think the kid is 100% credible. Brian Deagan and Cotter in a room alone with a 17 year old minor for 30 minutes? Let that last sentence sink in..... Holy fuck fuck fuck. That really makes me sick. Even more than the half dozen other disgusting things that occurred. I believe this young man is telling it truthfully how it went down. Sickining.
It's getting more interesting now. Brennan says it was him, Cotter, and Deegan in the room for 30 minutes but now DC is saying AMA official Mike Burkeen was also in the room and it was only 5 minutes.

Curious to see where this whole thing goes now especially if ML is able to talk with those involved. In my opinion this will just result in a "my word against theirs" situation and nothing will come from it. Maybe I'm wrong but realistically nobody is going to admit to any wrong doing and without actual evidence it really can't be escalated any further.
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disbanded wrote:
I'm definitely on the kid's side and I think he should own that bike, but there were a few holes in his story. He's so articulate...
I'm definitely on the kid's side and I think he should own that bike, but there were a few holes in his story. He's so articulate that you have to at least consider that he might have been coached in some areas. Still not a good look for Cotter or Yamaha at all.
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What are the holes?
LOOnatic wrote:
I'm all on the kids side in this mess. But after watching the video he does say that he claimed the bike in the 30 minute...
I'm all on the kids side in this mess.
But after watching the video he does say that he claimed the bike in the 30 minute window in the race with Deegan but couldn't get the bike that night bc Deegan had another race the next day.
Later says he was chilling with his dad and motor guy is his his pit to go over his own "settings" .
Well I don't know but did Brannon have another race the next day to prepare for?
I want to believe he did but that detail stuck out to me.
Again I'm on the kids side here.
That same thought was crossing my mind but it really doesnt play into what was done to persuade Brennan from pulling his claim.

They could have been debriefing from the moto and talking about how to make changes or whatever. The engine guy was not solely there for Brennan.

Not a hole in the story IMO. A hole would be if he was alone with Cotter and Deegan.

The balls it took to do this interview tells me he wouldnt be one to back out of his claim without some serious pressure.
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8/12/2022 7:38pm
This sums up a lot of what has been said about the Morgantown mafia for a lot of years.

If half of what he said is true, it kind of proves some of the stories I’ve heard over the years.
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8/12/2022 7:38pm Edited Date/Time 8/12/2022 7:39pm
CPR wrote:
If half of what is in the interview is true and it was up to me; Tim Cotter no longer has a job, neither has the...
If half of what is in the interview is true and it was up to me; Tim Cotter no longer has a job, neither has the Yamaha rep involved, Brian Deegan and Matt Walker are suspended from attending AMA events, while Star and Yamaha are issued with massive fines on the proviso they issue a public apology to Brennan Schofield. No satisfaction with the apology and they also get further sanctions. Couple of free bikes for Brennan wouldn’t hurt their cause.
If someone wants to actually make this right ... sounds like a proper plan to me
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He lost his sponsors today.
My biggest concern is he will get black balled
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This next week in moto media should be good. Looking forward to seeing how this unfolds!
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ctbale wrote:
After watching the video, I think the kid is 100% credible. Brian Deagan and Cotter in a room alone with a 17 year old minor for...
After watching the video, I think the kid is 100% credible. Brian Deagan and Cotter in a room alone with a 17 year old minor for 30 minutes? Let that last sentence sink in..... Holy fuck fuck fuck. That really makes me sick. Even more than the half dozen other disgusting things that occurred. I believe this young man is telling it truthfully how it went down. Sickining.
ProKawi24 wrote:
It's getting more interesting now. Brennan says it was him, Cotter, and Deegan in the room for 30 minutes but now DC is saying AMA official...
It's getting more interesting now. Brennan says it was him, Cotter, and Deegan in the room for 30 minutes but now DC is saying AMA official Mike Burkeen was also in the room and it was only 5 minutes.

Curious to see where this whole thing goes now especially if ML is able to talk with those involved. In my opinion this will just result in a "my word against theirs" situation and nothing will come from it. Maybe I'm wrong but realistically nobody is going to admit to any wrong doing and without actual evidence it really can't be escalated any further.
Somewhere in this thread way before the video Burkeen posted that he was in the room the whole time.
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8/12/2022 7:42pm Edited Date/Time 8/12/2022 7:43pm
ProKawi24 wrote:
It's getting more interesting now. Brennan says it was him, Cotter, and Deegan in the room for 30 minutes but now DC is saying AMA official...
It's getting more interesting now. Brennan says it was him, Cotter, and Deegan in the room for 30 minutes but now DC is saying AMA official Mike Burkeen was also in the room and it was only 5 minutes.

Curious to see where this whole thing goes now especially if ML is able to talk with those involved. In my opinion this will just result in a "my word against theirs" situation and nothing will come from it. Maybe I'm wrong but realistically nobody is going to admit to any wrong doing and without actual evidence it really can't be escalated any further.
Well if Brennan’s statements are untrue, it could be a pretty straight forward defamation case that Yamaha could easily pursue, especially with the handful of first hand witnesses, which is why I tend to believe he wouldn’t lie about something as extreme as what seems to be extortion claims.
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8/12/2022 7:42pm Edited Date/Time 8/12/2022 7:42pm
ctbale wrote:
After watching the video, I think the kid is 100% credible. Brian Deagan and Cotter in a room alone with a 17 year old minor for...
After watching the video, I think the kid is 100% credible. Brian Deagan and Cotter in a room alone with a 17 year old minor for 30 minutes? Let that last sentence sink in..... Holy fuck fuck fuck. That really makes me sick. Even more than the half dozen other disgusting things that occurred. I believe this young man is telling it truthfully how it went down. Sickining.
ProKawi24 wrote:
It's getting more interesting now. Brennan says it was him, Cotter, and Deegan in the room for 30 minutes but now DC is saying AMA official...
It's getting more interesting now. Brennan says it was him, Cotter, and Deegan in the room for 30 minutes but now DC is saying AMA official Mike Burkeen was also in the room and it was only 5 minutes.

Curious to see where this whole thing goes now especially if ML is able to talk with those involved. In my opinion this will just result in a "my word against theirs" situation and nothing will come from it. Maybe I'm wrong but realistically nobody is going to admit to any wrong doing and without actual evidence it really can't be escalated any further.
DC loses credibility with the 5 minute take. They must’ve only asked him 3 questions with only one of them talking for the meeting to only last 5 minutes. Maybe they were only asking yes or no questions, lol
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swordfish wrote:
He lost his sponsors today.
What sponsors? That is BS if true
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Bruce372 wrote:
My biggest concern is he will get black balled
Only from cheaters
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The biggiest disappointment should come in what people think of Yamaha. Why are they allowed to pressure and threaten the kids sponsor to force him to...
The biggiest disappointment should come in what people think of Yamaha. Why are they allowed to pressure and threaten the kids sponsor to force him to withdraw the claim.

That in itself is so unethical, the AMA should be stepping in and protecting people from crap like that. The rule is there for a reason, you shouldn’t have to fear what happens if you try to claim a bike.
Once a claim is made, it should be a rule, no take backs.... takes all the intimidation out of it...

Also.... first guy to claim gets it... multiple claims will not be accepted..

Now just watch the ama take the price from double msrp, up to 50k.... or eliminate the rule completely
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ctbale wrote:
After watching the video, I think the kid is 100% credible. Brian Deagan and Cotter in a room alone with a 17 year old minor for...
After watching the video, I think the kid is 100% credible. Brian Deagan and Cotter in a room alone with a 17 year old minor for 30 minutes? Let that last sentence sink in..... Holy fuck fuck fuck. That really makes me sick. Even more than the half dozen other disgusting things that occurred. I believe this young man is telling it truthfully how it went down. Sickining.
ProKawi24 wrote:
It's getting more interesting now. Brennan says it was him, Cotter, and Deegan in the room for 30 minutes but now DC is saying AMA official...
It's getting more interesting now. Brennan says it was him, Cotter, and Deegan in the room for 30 minutes but now DC is saying AMA official Mike Burkeen was also in the room and it was only 5 minutes.

Curious to see where this whole thing goes now especially if ML is able to talk with those involved. In my opinion this will just result in a "my word against theirs" situation and nothing will come from it. Maybe I'm wrong but realistically nobody is going to admit to any wrong doing and without actual evidence it really can't be escalated any further.
DonM wrote:
Somewhere in this thread way before the video Burkeen posted that he was in the room the whole time.
Somewhere in this thread way before the video Burkeen posted that he was in the room the whole time.
That was the other thread.
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ML512 wrote:
The line gets very thin here. In the moment the kid may have said he wasn't pressured, he may have not said it wasn't his own...
The line gets very thin here. In the moment the kid may have said he wasn't pressured, he may have not said it wasn't his own idea but is now saying it.

It's one's own words versus another.

I'm not saying either is lying, I'm just saying to take one person's words as fact over the other without a witness or other form of proof is tough. At that point, it's just making your own opinion of the situation and going with it.

As an add on from my original response. I think we've all been there when young and under pressure. He may have wanted to say more in the moment but just tried to get through it without creating much more of an issue...and is now more comfortable talking about. I know I've been there and I'm sure many can relate, especially around that age and when dealing with more adults.
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I'm definitely on the kid's side and I think he should own that bike, but there were a few holes in his story. He's so articulate...
I'm definitely on the kid's side and I think he should own that bike, but there were a few holes in his story. He's so articulate that you have to at least consider that he might have been coached in some areas. Still not a good look for Cotter or Yamaha at all.
ns503 wrote:
What are the holes?
At one point he says that when Deegan and Cotter confronted him early on, at 7:15 in the video, he says he simply wanted a factory bike to ride and test and tear down. 'Everybody's dream is to ride a factory bike.'

Then later at 16:34 he says when he's in the meeting with everyone and Donnie from Yamaha - it's the first time he learns that it is a factory bike. He's so shocked all of a sudden that this is a factory bike.

All I'm saying is the kid was definitely coached, but again, I'm on his side!
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Any bets on a rule change before the LL qualifiers start next year?
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I'm definitely on the kid's side and I think he should own that bike, but there were a few holes in his story. He's so articulate...
I'm definitely on the kid's side and I think he should own that bike, but there were a few holes in his story. He's so articulate that you have to at least consider that he might have been coached in some areas. Still not a good look for Cotter or Yamaha at all.
ns503 wrote:
What are the holes?
disbanded wrote:
At one point he says that when Deegan and Cotter confronted him early on, at 7:15 in the video, he says he simply wanted a factory...
At one point he says that when Deegan and Cotter confronted him early on, at 7:15 in the video, he says he simply wanted a factory bike to ride and test and tear down. 'Everybody's dream is to ride a factory bike.'

Then later at 16:34 he says when he's in the meeting with everyone and Donnie from Yamaha - it's the first time he learns that it is a factory bike. He's so shocked all of a sudden that this is a factory bike.

All I'm saying is the kid was definitely coached, but again, I'm on his side!
I think he is just getting ahead of himself, he is pretty sure it’s a factory bike now, and he is speaking from the present point of view
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Shady shit…

I’ve owned Yamahas 5 to 1 over any other brand. It’s pretty clear there will never be another Yamaha in my garage.
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disbanded wrote:
I'm definitely on the kid's side and I think he should own that bike, but there were a few holes in his story. He's so articulate...
I'm definitely on the kid's side and I think he should own that bike, but there were a few holes in his story. He's so articulate that you have to at least consider that he might have been coached in some areas. Still not a good look for Cotter or Yamaha at all.
ns503 wrote:
What are the holes?
disbanded wrote:
At one point he says that when Deegan and Cotter confronted him early on, at 7:15 in the video, he says he simply wanted a factory...
At one point he says that when Deegan and Cotter confronted him early on, at 7:15 in the video, he says he simply wanted a factory bike to ride and test and tear down. 'Everybody's dream is to ride a factory bike.'

Then later at 16:34 he says when he's in the meeting with everyone and Donnie from Yamaha - it's the first time he learns that it is a factory bike. He's so shocked all of a sudden that this is a factory bike.

All I'm saying is the kid was definitely coached, but again, I'm on his side!
Ok. I'm at the cottage for the weekend in sketchy cell coverage and can't watch the video. Gotta wait until I get back home.
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Well if Brennan’s statements are untrue, it could be a pretty straight forward defamation case that Yamaha could easily pursue, especially with the handful of first...
Well if Brennan’s statements are untrue, it could be a pretty straight forward defamation case that Yamaha could easily pursue, especially with the handful of first hand witnesses, which is why I tend to believe he wouldn’t lie about something as extreme as what seems to be extortion claims.
I just kinda found it interesting that he had to point that out as if it really changes anything other than to possibly attempt to tarnish the kids legitimacy. I don't see how that changes anything wither or not the AMA official was in there or not or if it was 30 minutes or 5 minutes.

Something obviously happened to cause him to rescind his claim and that's where it gets truly disgusting. Again....assuming what the kid is saying is true and the whole threat to his sponsor if the claim went through is all true....then I would hope to hell something comes from this. I don't know how any of that gets proven since nobody is going to admit to shit which is why I have a feeling this gets swept under the rug as a "he said, she said" kinda thing.

But again....something had to happen to cause him to rescind his claim so at this point I'm inclined to believe his story.
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8/12/2022 7:55pm
Tim Cotter and that Yamaha guy can both stick their d☆icks into their own ☆sses!!
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I can't wait for next year at LL
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8/12/2022 7:57pm
Bruce372 wrote:
My biggest concern is he will get black balled
DA498 wrote:
Only from cheaters
I’m still confused at how Deegans are cheaters? Lol
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8/12/2022 7:57pm Edited Date/Time 8/12/2022 8:16pm
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At one point he says that when Deegan and Cotter confronted him early on, at 7:15 in the video, he says he simply wanted a factory...
At one point he says that when Deegan and Cotter confronted him early on, at 7:15 in the video, he says he simply wanted a factory bike to ride and test and tear down. 'Everybody's dream is to ride a factory bike.'

Then later at 16:34 he says when he's in the meeting with everyone and Donnie from Yamaha - it's the first time he learns that it is a factory bike. He's so shocked all of a sudden that this is a factory bike.

All I'm saying is the kid was definitely coached, but again, I'm on his side!
I just think that’s a loose term. The factory amateurs are still on “factory bikes” even if they aren’t “pro factory bikes”. While they are not the $100K+ bikes like the professionals ride, the top “factory” amateur bikes are still over $40,000. I would call one of those factory kid’s $40K+ bikes a “factory bike” if I was on that level. If you’re all amateurs, someone like Hymas or Deegan is on a “factory bike” to a privateer.

Maybe a better way to say it is if you’re a privateer am, someone on the PC or Star or HRC team has a factory bike compared to your privateer am bike.

And if you want to dip deeper into the side of the story we don’t know, perhaps Deegan’s bike was actually running a pro Star motor (not illegal, but still coveted) and why this entire situation has unfolded and what he meant when he said “not realizing it was a [pro] factory bike”.
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Motocross riders are the worst !
Their main bike dream is to "get sponsored" - Which means get shit for free.
Now Yamaha are running a program. Advertising if you will. Star racing. Star racing have been doing very well and doing good for Yamaha the very reason for this incident. Everyone wants a YZ250F now and thinks it is the best. Now a rider that also races and is sponsored by Yamaha wants to threaten that program because he is Jealous and it is a problem because Yamaha is over zealous testing running "works" bike etc in their program. Never the less it is how everything is funded bike sales advertising the sport etc. It is amazing how most people on this thread want to take down Yamaha who are part of keeping the very sport they partake in down. If a Dumb AS jealous kid wants to but for no reason than own selfish motives. I want to ride a Star racing bike , but I am not good enough but so I will pull a legal stunt . The every one get mad when Yamaha pulls a legal stunt to protect their program which everyone in the sport indirectly benefits from. Everyone rushes to support the selfish entity against that which supports the sport more broadly. I want to sponsored I want free stuff . BUT where does the money come from ? It comes from the industry that makes money and has enough money to support racing and sponsorship. Destroy the industry and guess what less racing less sponsorship. My worst is when riders who are sponsored do not behave professionally. They are being paid. By trashing or threatening the very brand that supports them. Thereby making it worse for everyone else who want to race get sponsored etc etc.
Like I said from an industry stand point Motocross riders are the worst customers to deal with because their big dream is give me free stuff while we bad mouth you trying to make a living or success of a business. Road racers are not like that at all ! They are happy to pay and are grateful for services. It is just how it is. This thread just proves these points.
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8/12/2022 8:01pm
Bruce372 wrote:
My biggest concern is he will get black balled
DA498 wrote:
Only from cheaters
I’m still confused at how Deegans are cheaters? Lol
They're not. That's not the allegation. It was about getting a killer bike for $17k
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