Serious accusations, Rocky KTM folding?

mattyhamz2 4/9/2022 12:21am
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Antsie’s women probably thinking that twisted tea Suzuki doesn’t look so bad right now
Looks like I was a few hours too late.

But seriously, Twisted Tea Suzuki is probably looking really good to the Anstie’s right now.
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Okay so no riders, no bikes, no mechanics, no sponsors. All because team(owner) didnt pay anyone and fill their contracts?

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USA wrote:
When something like this happens and Max has to go around himself asking for rides, I wonder why the bigger media outlets stay silent. Matthes tweeted...
When something like this happens and Max has to go around himself asking for rides, I wonder why the bigger media outlets stay silent. Matthes tweeted that he didn't take joy in reporting on people losing jobs, but that sounds like a cop out. He posted about Karnow being stranded in Detroit..
All about who you are and what your connections are. The way key media and industry people have been avoiding the shady stuff going on in this team ever since the Baggett thing happened is so typical for this industry.

Easy to discuss openly about the nobody that "sponsored" Karnow and pulled out but not as easy to talk about BBMX when that's someone you know.
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Well, I’m out in the Dez at a facility where we make sure certain vehicles do what they’re suppose to do…& I was asked to post...
Well, I’m out in the Dez at a facility where we make sure certain vehicles do what they’re suppose to do…& I was asked to post this…

Hello to all: This is Forrest Butler, owner of Butler Brothers Mx, LLC, in short - the BBMX race team. I refer to the Team as BBMX at this time, as this message is in respects to ALL of the great Sponsors, Riders, Staff, Friends and most importantly to me personally - the Fans.

2022 marks the 19th year since BBMX was truly named and registered as the business, Butler Brothers Mx, LLC. Over these 19 years we have held a number of different Sponsor Title names and without all of them we would not be here today, and without all of our Current Sponsors we wouldn't still be going wide open!

So yes, to ALL that have ever been a part of and to all that still are a part of - Thank You!!

This message is in regards to the absolute FAKE and FALSE allegations made up by Chris Cooksey and his Cooksey Media. In referring to the Team as "BBMX", here are the Facts against what Cooksey says in his self made interview:

- No, BBMX is NOT going out of business / folding / or anything of the sort.
- Yes, BBMX will 100% be in St. Louis (in fact the Semi and some staff are already there).
- Yes, BBMX is fully IN for the remainder of the Monster Energy Supercross Series.
- Yes, BBMX is fully IN for the entire Lucas Oil Pro Motocross National's.

Yes - We have had a change within the BBMX sponsor wise, as we are no longer affiliated with Rocky Mountain ATV/MC. We do have a new Title Sponsor in line, and we will be announcing them in near time. None the less and again as spoken above, BBMX is still 100% in business.

As per our Riders, both Shane McElrath and Max Anstie will be returning this weekend in St. Louis, back from injuries. Joey Savatgy is continuing to heal up nicely from his total ACL repair done following round 3 of the San Diego SX, and is currently expected to make his return by the start of Outdoors.

I can say and speak to all right now: That I have absolutely no idea what or why Chris Cooksey has it out for me. Up until this past May (2021), I had never even heard of his name. And I only became aware of who he was when some sent me a link to a negative, false video he had made of me and BBMX. For a couple of weeks he was relentless, but I quickly came to realize that it wasn't just me he was making these ridiculous video's and claims about. He was doing it to a number of others, from Rider's to Promoter's, it was not something I wished to be associated with.

The worst, and I speak this from that absolute deepest and truest part of my heart, is the insult or slap in the face it is to ALL of my Team's Sponsors, Staff and Rider's. We have the best Sponsors, the best. Our current Riders and Staff had a heck of an off-season, and certainly have experienced the highs and lows of the first 2/3's of this SX season. Post's like this are poison, and I would like to be able to say directly to all I opened to with this message: I will not engage with any negative posts like Cooksie's out of the All Due Respect to every single one of BBMX's amazing Sponsor's, Staff and Rider's. They are the heart and soul of everything to me, and they deserve nothing but THE BEST.

As the owner of BBMX, I have seen the darkest days and the brightest. And just as it seems in life, it always seems to be "darkest before the dawn". Thank you to everyone that gave the time to give this a read, and hope to either see you in St. Louis this weekend or at the very next race you attend. By all mean's, whenever you do make it to your race - stop by and say hi. You know my name, just grab a crew member - I would love to shake your hand for supportin' the sport.

Sincerely,

Forrest Butler
This aged like milk in the desert
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creature654 4/9/2022 1:48am
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Yup I’ve been watching this one from the first post and it has delivered!! Good for Cooksey. I don’t expect any of you shit talkers to apologize because you probably are the same people that get mad at “YouTube conspiracy theorists “. Then when they prove to be right, and it’s proven that CNN or FOX lied to you , you go right back to those same mainstream sources the next day and continue to talk shit on “YouTubers”.

Some on here need to learn the difference between “conspiracies” and “conspiracy theories”. I just miss Coach and can’t wait to hear what his thoughts on all of this are. I can already pretty much tell you what pulp and swapmoto are going to say…
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I was going to post on here about the sitty situation, then I thought fuck that, we just lost a truly inspirational guy in OC...who gives a fuck about anything else.....
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USA wrote:
When something like this happens and Max has to go around himself asking for rides, I wonder why the bigger media outlets stay silent. Matthes tweeted...
When something like this happens and Max has to go around himself asking for rides, I wonder why the bigger media outlets stay silent. Matthes tweeted that he didn't take joy in reporting on people losing jobs, but that sounds like a cop out. He posted about Karnow being stranded in Detroit..
McG194 wrote:
With as many conflicts of interest there are in this sport it's tough to get pure unbiased reporting. Fly is a big sponsor of Pulp and...
With as many conflicts of interest there are in this sport it's tough to get pure unbiased reporting. Fly is a big sponsor of Pulp and they are a big sponsor of the team. Is that sponsorship still in effect? I have no idea. I don't blame Steve one bit, it's just a fact of life when you have an incestuous industry like this one.
This++++Matthes is sponsored by Fly, Jason Thomas even works for Fly, and nobody saw this coming? The sport could be taken more seriously if it took itself more seriously.
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Looks like the upcoming world sx league is gaining a lot of potential entries
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Looking at it from what we now know, “something” happened. Rocky Mtn MC didn’t pull out for no reason. They don’t come and take away your suspension because of rumors that the team is folding. Personnel doesn’t quit all at once when the truck is at the race. Even if it’s that he owes everyone involved lots of money, let’s have the people involved speak about it so it doesn’t happen again. We know something happened with Baggett but he wouldn’t tell anyone. Maybe if everyone who is now getting screwed knew this guy was shady they would have stayed away from him or at least known the risks involved. You can “protect” on both sides of a story. Something tells me Butler wasn’t going hungry while everyone else wasn’t getting paid.
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USA wrote:
When something like this happens and Max has to go around himself asking for rides, I wonder why the bigger media outlets stay silent. Matthes tweeted...
When something like this happens and Max has to go around himself asking for rides, I wonder why the bigger media outlets stay silent. Matthes tweeted that he didn't take joy in reporting on people losing jobs, but that sounds like a cop out. He posted about Karnow being stranded in Detroit..
McG194 wrote:
With as many conflicts of interest there are in this sport it's tough to get pure unbiased reporting. Fly is a big sponsor of Pulp and...
With as many conflicts of interest there are in this sport it's tough to get pure unbiased reporting. Fly is a big sponsor of Pulp and they are a big sponsor of the team. Is that sponsorship still in effect? I have no idea. I don't blame Steve one bit, it's just a fact of life when you have an incestuous industry like this one.
Spoonguy wrote:
This++++Matthes is sponsored by Fly, Jason Thomas even works for Fly, and nobody saw this coming? The sport could be taken more seriously if it took...
This++++Matthes is sponsored by Fly, Jason Thomas even works for Fly, and nobody saw this coming? The sport could be taken more seriously if it took itself more seriously.
This all goes back to the bro mentality of the sport. Bunch of hanger-on’s and when Steve used to talk about who partied in Temecula as a joke, problem is that he is that guy and so is all his industry buddies. Clowns
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Thanks.
Now that's how you properly report on a story, based on what you know.
Without the, "I'm going to beat you up after school" aspect.

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This all leads to a bigger question, is it time for the teams to down size? Geico, JGR, BBRMX are all done and had semi’s, race shops, large support staff, etc, on top of the riders they supported. With the inflation, rising interest rates, etc, is it time to go to a less expensive business model? Maybe not as extreme as back to box vans, but it’s pretty clear something needs to be done across the sport. I wonder how many other teams are in $$ trouble.
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Ive read this entire thread up until now, I shit pretty hard on our "journalists" because they suck and wont ask any hard questions or get any actual info out there if they think they might hurt someones feelings, or wait until a rider actually posts something himself then copy and paste. I dont know this cooksey person at all and I take every "reputable" source with a grain of salt because they all suck, but this dude nailed it. There needs to be a whole ass apology thread for this guy.I mean Vitals front page story is pretty much saying hey cooksey dude had a great story a week ago, now that everyone is pissed at him I can post it without fear
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ajk423 wrote:
Ive read this entire thread up until now, I shit pretty hard on our "journalists" because they suck and wont ask any hard questions or get...
Ive read this entire thread up until now, I shit pretty hard on our "journalists" because they suck and wont ask any hard questions or get any actual info out there if they think they might hurt someones feelings, or wait until a rider actually posts something himself then copy and paste. I dont know this cooksey person at all and I take every "reputable" source with a grain of salt because they all suck, but this dude nailed it. There needs to be a whole ass apology thread for this guy.I mean Vitals front page story is pretty much saying hey cooksey dude had a great story a week ago, now that everyone is pissed at him I can post it without fear
X10000.

Sad day for the moto media including THIS site. I hope that they learn from this
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NorCalRedRyder 4/9/2022 6:52am
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Probably won't happen, but maybe put them under the Tedder tent? They have never put in great results, but still have the money to go racing every weekend.
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Cooksey is often right, but he’s always a douche.
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USA wrote:
When something like this happens and Max has to go around himself asking for rides, I wonder why the bigger media outlets stay silent. Matthes tweeted...
When something like this happens and Max has to go around himself asking for rides, I wonder why the bigger media outlets stay silent. Matthes tweeted that he didn't take joy in reporting on people losing jobs, but that sounds like a cop out. He posted about Karnow being stranded in Detroit..
McG194 wrote:
With as many conflicts of interest there are in this sport it's tough to get pure unbiased reporting. Fly is a big sponsor of Pulp and...
With as many conflicts of interest there are in this sport it's tough to get pure unbiased reporting. Fly is a big sponsor of Pulp and they are a big sponsor of the team. Is that sponsorship still in effect? I have no idea. I don't blame Steve one bit, it's just a fact of life when you have an incestuous industry like this one.
Spoonguy wrote:
This++++Matthes is sponsored by Fly, Jason Thomas even works for Fly, and nobody saw this coming? The sport could be taken more seriously if it took...
This++++Matthes is sponsored by Fly, Jason Thomas even works for Fly, and nobody saw this coming? The sport could be taken more seriously if it took itself more seriously.
And JT is really close friends with Butler and rode for him for years.
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731chopper 4/9/2022 7:25am
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This all goes back to the bro mentality of the sport. Bunch of hanger-on’s and when Steve used to talk about who partied in Temecula as...
This all goes back to the bro mentality of the sport. Bunch of hanger-on’s and when Steve used to talk about who partied in Temecula as a joke, problem is that he is that guy and so is all his industry buddies. Clowns
I still feel like Steve does a good job all things considered but there is definitely truth to the fact that he made his name by going against the grain but has now become just that. It is a dynamic lots of people and/or businesses face when they start with nothing but find success. Over time it is easy for some people to forget what got them where they are today. It’ll be interesting to see how Pulp MX will adapt. I’ve personally seen it go good and bad for people and businesses. I wish Steve all the success though.
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ajk423 wrote:
Ive read this entire thread up until now, I shit pretty hard on our "journalists" because they suck and wont ask any hard questions or get...
Ive read this entire thread up until now, I shit pretty hard on our "journalists" because they suck and wont ask any hard questions or get any actual info out there if they think they might hurt someones feelings, or wait until a rider actually posts something himself then copy and paste. I dont know this cooksey person at all and I take every "reputable" source with a grain of salt because they all suck, but this dude nailed it. There needs to be a whole ass apology thread for this guy.I mean Vitals front page story is pretty much saying hey cooksey dude had a great story a week ago, now that everyone is pissed at him I can post it without fear
Can you please start the apology thread for kooksey media??
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ehr400 wrote:
This all goes back to the bro mentality of the sport. Bunch of hanger-on’s and when Steve used to talk about who partied in Temecula as...
This all goes back to the bro mentality of the sport. Bunch of hanger-on’s and when Steve used to talk about who partied in Temecula as a joke, problem is that he is that guy and so is all his industry buddies. Clowns
731chopper wrote:
I still feel like Steve does a good job all things considered but there is definitely truth to the fact that he made his name by...
I still feel like Steve does a good job all things considered but there is definitely truth to the fact that he made his name by going against the grain but has now become just that. It is a dynamic lots of people and/or businesses face when they start with nothing but find success. Over time it is easy for some people to forget what got them where they are today. It’ll be interesting to see how Pulp MX will adapt. I’ve personally seen it go good and bad for people and businesses. I wish Steve all the success though.
My feeling is Steve realized if you go against the grain, you get stuck to the side out of the loop. I don’t blame him because he has to walk this line of having some access and getting what he can of a story or being completely cut off and getting nothing. That’s the industry’s fault. I’m neutral on Cooksey as I know nothing about him but maybe the industry needs someone who somehow is getting information despite their efforts to secrecy
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On RacerX right now the comments are all anti-Rocky Mtn since the basic highlight of the story is they have pulled title sponsorship. So now a lack of information is hurting who may be someone doing the right thing. If I was a company thinking of title sponsorship…..do I need that hassle?
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This all goes back to the bro mentality of the sport. Bunch of hanger-on’s and when Steve used to talk about who partied in Temecula as...
This all goes back to the bro mentality of the sport. Bunch of hanger-on’s and when Steve used to talk about who partied in Temecula as a joke, problem is that he is that guy and so is all his industry buddies. Clowns
731chopper wrote:
I still feel like Steve does a good job all things considered but there is definitely truth to the fact that he made his name by...
I still feel like Steve does a good job all things considered but there is definitely truth to the fact that he made his name by going against the grain but has now become just that. It is a dynamic lots of people and/or businesses face when they start with nothing but find success. Over time it is easy for some people to forget what got them where they are today. It’ll be interesting to see how Pulp MX will adapt. I’ve personally seen it go good and bad for people and businesses. I wish Steve all the success though.
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My feeling is Steve realized if you go against the grain, you get stuck to the side out of the loop. I don’t blame him because...
My feeling is Steve realized if you go against the grain, you get stuck to the side out of the loop. I don’t blame him because he has to walk this line of having some access and getting what he can of a story or being completely cut off and getting nothing. That’s the industry’s fault. I’m neutral on Cooksey as I know nothing about him but maybe the industry needs someone who somehow is getting information despite their efforts to secrecy
Agreed, I understand Steve can’t burn bridges, I just find the irony of him blowing out the team Karnow got fucked by, and others in past, then these guys bbmx do it on a grander scale. Hard to be objective when these guys are bros. I guess where do people start connecting dots on how the same people just get recycled in the industry and act shocked when same shit keeps happening? Cooksey is goofy but he was right.
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This all leads to a bigger question, is it time for the teams to down size? Geico, JGR, BBRMX are all done and had semi’s, race...
This all leads to a bigger question, is it time for the teams to down size? Geico, JGR, BBRMX are all done and had semi’s, race shops, large support staff, etc, on top of the riders they supported. With the inflation, rising interest rates, etc, is it time to go to a less expensive business model? Maybe not as extreme as back to box vans, but it’s pretty clear something needs to be done across the sport. I wonder how many other teams are in $$ trouble.
Not to mention all the money they pump into amateurs who are switching teams once entering the pros anyways..
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Did Chris Cooksey just become the Jose Canseco in the Moto Journalism world?
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TeamGreen wrote:
I'm hearing Shane and the truck-driver are there. Don't know if Shane's mechanic is (that's not good!).

Bruce372 wrote:
Yesterday you were hearing 2 riders finishing sx and all 3 were doing mx.
Nope...

Here, I'll repost what I said after posting Forrest's response...

"I don’t know if there’s been any explanation, discussion or speculation; but, I’m assuming that after BBMX failed to get a rider on a bike for Seattle SX…RMATVMC decided they were out.

I DO NOT KNOW THIS FACTUALLY

But, I do know many of these contracts have minimum requirement clauses & I’m fairly confident in my “idiot’s analogy”.

Furthermore, I know Forrest tried to get someone on the bike: shit happens.

Disclaimer: I am sure as hell NOT taking sides. I’m just looking at the likely explanation. I hope RMATVMC continues to sponsor a team. I hope BBMX stays in it and goes outdoors, too. I ain’t mad at no one. I jus’ wanna see everyone go racin’."

As for posting Forrest's response to Cooksey? I'd do it all over, again! Why? We wanted to hear it/ Everyone ALWAYS complains that NO ONE EVER SAYS OR SHARES ANYTHING...

So, I shared it.

Then, seeing where people were taking it...Forrest's words getting assigned to me or being my words...I made the post, quoted above, and I -DID- say I hope they all get to go racing...yes, even outdoors.

As for yesterday, yup, I had heard that Shane was considering racing IF he got paid. All the while, I'd heard -nothing- about his mechanic being there...if you recall?

Let me repeat something, here, for the gallery: I'd posted Forrest's response because we alllllll say we want to hear and see this stuff for ourselves.

Since yesterday and due to Michael's excellent "This Week in Moto"...we now know...
No one is racing/No mechanics are there.
AEO -did not- Repo the suspension...yet.
McKenzie (sp?) is now "out".
KTM is now "out".
Forrest owes A LOT of people...money.

And it's going downhill form there.

The worst part? Shane, Max and Joey all looking for rides...mid-season. I'm pretty sure Joey already has some "things goin' on" and I'm hopeful for the other guys.
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TeamGreen wrote:
I'm hearing Shane and the truck-driver are there. Don't know if Shane's mechanic is (that's not good!).

Bruce372 wrote:
Yesterday you were hearing 2 riders finishing sx and all 3 were doing mx.
TeamGreen wrote:
Nope... Here, I'll repost what I said after posting Forrest's response... [i]"I don’t know if there’s been any explanation, discussion or speculation; but, I’m assuming that...
Nope...

Here, I'll repost what I said after posting Forrest's response...

"I don’t know if there’s been any explanation, discussion or speculation; but, I’m assuming that after BBMX failed to get a rider on a bike for Seattle SX…RMATVMC decided they were out.

I DO NOT KNOW THIS FACTUALLY

But, I do know many of these contracts have minimum requirement clauses & I’m fairly confident in my “idiot’s analogy”.

Furthermore, I know Forrest tried to get someone on the bike: shit happens.

Disclaimer: I am sure as hell NOT taking sides. I’m just looking at the likely explanation. I hope RMATVMC continues to sponsor a team. I hope BBMX stays in it and goes outdoors, too. I ain’t mad at no one. I jus’ wanna see everyone go racin’."

As for posting Forrest's response to Cooksey? I'd do it all over, again! Why? We wanted to hear it/ Everyone ALWAYS complains that NO ONE EVER SAYS OR SHARES ANYTHING...

So, I shared it.

Then, seeing where people were taking it...Forrest's words getting assigned to me or being my words...I made the post, quoted above, and I -DID- say I hope they all get to go racing...yes, even outdoors.

As for yesterday, yup, I had heard that Shane was considering racing IF he got paid. All the while, I'd heard -nothing- about his mechanic being there...if you recall?

Let me repeat something, here, for the gallery: I'd posted Forrest's response because we alllllll say we want to hear and see this stuff for ourselves.

Since yesterday and due to Michael's excellent "This Week in Moto"...we now know...
No one is racing/No mechanics are there.
AEO -did not- Repo the suspension...yet.
McKenzie (sp?) is now "out".
KTM is now "out".
Forrest owes A LOT of people...money.

And it's going downhill form there.

The worst part? Shane, Max and Joey all looking for rides...mid-season. I'm pretty sure Joey already has some "things goin' on" and I'm hopeful for the other guys.
Have to ask TeamGreen, how well do you know Forrest and do you feel like he used you when he asked you to post something that he knew was false?

Don't get me wrong, appreciate you sharing what he gave you but have to admit he put you in a bad spot.
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Too bad J Law isn’t there, he would go borrow some factory suspension straight out of the rig!
Funny I remember J Law giving a bike to the Wharton brother to race sx one time.
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TeamGreen 4/9/2022 9:57am
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Bruce372 wrote:
Yesterday you were hearing 2 riders finishing sx and all 3 were doing mx.
TeamGreen wrote:
Nope... Here, I'll repost what I said after posting Forrest's response... [i]"I don’t know if there’s been any explanation, discussion or speculation; but, I’m assuming that...
Nope...

Here, I'll repost what I said after posting Forrest's response...

"I don’t know if there’s been any explanation, discussion or speculation; but, I’m assuming that after BBMX failed to get a rider on a bike for Seattle SX…RMATVMC decided they were out.

I DO NOT KNOW THIS FACTUALLY

But, I do know many of these contracts have minimum requirement clauses & I’m fairly confident in my “idiot’s analogy”.

Furthermore, I know Forrest tried to get someone on the bike: shit happens.

Disclaimer: I am sure as hell NOT taking sides. I’m just looking at the likely explanation. I hope RMATVMC continues to sponsor a team. I hope BBMX stays in it and goes outdoors, too. I ain’t mad at no one. I jus’ wanna see everyone go racin’."

As for posting Forrest's response to Cooksey? I'd do it all over, again! Why? We wanted to hear it/ Everyone ALWAYS complains that NO ONE EVER SAYS OR SHARES ANYTHING...

So, I shared it.

Then, seeing where people were taking it...Forrest's words getting assigned to me or being my words...I made the post, quoted above, and I -DID- say I hope they all get to go racing...yes, even outdoors.

As for yesterday, yup, I had heard that Shane was considering racing IF he got paid. All the while, I'd heard -nothing- about his mechanic being there...if you recall?

Let me repeat something, here, for the gallery: I'd posted Forrest's response because we alllllll say we want to hear and see this stuff for ourselves.

Since yesterday and due to Michael's excellent "This Week in Moto"...we now know...
No one is racing/No mechanics are there.
AEO -did not- Repo the suspension...yet.
McKenzie (sp?) is now "out".
KTM is now "out".
Forrest owes A LOT of people...money.

And it's going downhill form there.

The worst part? Shane, Max and Joey all looking for rides...mid-season. I'm pretty sure Joey already has some "things goin' on" and I'm hopeful for the other guys.
mooch wrote:
Have to ask TeamGreen, how well do you know Forrest and do you feel like he used you when he asked you to post something that...
Have to ask TeamGreen, how well do you know Forrest and do you feel like he used you when he asked you to post something that he knew was false?

Don't get me wrong, appreciate you sharing what he gave you but have to admit he put you in a bad spot.
Known Forrest for quite a few years. He hired a friend who became Crew Chief and I'd worked with the team to develop some parts for Short/Goerke & continued to work with the team, thru the Crew Chief-JR Boyd, thru 2020. JR is a very good friend, that's why I was there. He left the team in 2020. Since then, I've supplied a few parts thru Rankin/Rash.

Forrest has had days where he's glad I'm around and other days where he's absolutely pissed at me. We're friends from seeing each-other at the races. Also, it was Forrest who reached out to me and told me he didn't have anything for Matt back at the end of 2014. I'd worked with Matt a bit during an injury he was trying to "ride thru" in 2014...nasty finger injury (pinned finger) Forrest knew this and asked me to help find something for Matt (Goerke).

About the "Forrest Post"....as I'd said in the original post...I was doing something ENTIRELY different...and all of this was far from my concern...when I got asked, by Forrest...to post his response.

I did it for the very reason I said, people would want to see/hear what he has to say.

No worries. This is the internet and I usually would "know better" than to get involved; but, everyone says they wanna know...
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RaceFace58 4/9/2022 10:08am
4/9/2022 10:08am
SwingHard wrote:
Did Chris Cooksey just become the Jose Canseco in the Moto Journalism world?
If he can keep getting scoops that turn out accurate he’s more like the TMZ guy. I don’t think many people like him either but he’s built a rep of if TMZ is reporting it……eventually we’ll learn it’s true. Cooksey maybe needs to work on his craft to build a rep which isn’t being right sometimes. But this one certainly delivered. Shockingly (not) the reputable outlets are still really not delivering much of anything.
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