Craziest 450 Main In Recent Years

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Detroit and crazy races man…
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3/12/2022 8:13pm
ArmPumped wrote:
It was stupid of him to stay out there and it shouldn’t be praised.
I’m not really sure what he was trying to accomplish?
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3/12/2022 8:15pm
I almost wonder if he was mad and just didnt want to believe his year was over due to a broken wrist.. or he hit his head also?
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3/12/2022 8:18pm
Whoosh I was thinking how bad it was watching the heats and the LCQ for the final transfer spots. And then 4 more factory guys hit the deck in the main. Great for someone like Hartraft or Clason to make the top 10 but not a good look for the sport.
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3/12/2022 8:19pm
Damn Sexton's back got hit hard. I wonder if he might have some broken ribs after that one.
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3/12/2022 8:19pm
Steve tweeted out chase is all good. 🙏🏼
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3/12/2022 8:20pm
Guess now we wait on the other 3 riders..
3/12/2022 8:23pm
Steve tweeted out chase is all good. 🙏🏼
Good. I for sure thought that left humerus looked snapped and I’m happy as hell to be wrong.
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3/12/2022 8:26pm
Motoxdoc wrote:
Did I see Sexton [i]double[/i] wheel tap Webb’s head?….And then Webb get up and try to finish a Supercross race with one arm? The competitive nature...
Did I see Sexton double wheel tap Webb’s head?….And then Webb get up and try to finish a Supercross race with one arm? The competitive nature has no bounds!!!
ArmPumped wrote:
It was stupid of him to stay out there and it shouldn’t be praised.
He didn’t want to give up because that’s how much determination he has. I disagree with you whole heartedly that he shouldn’t be praised.
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3/12/2022 9:21pm
Crazy for sure. Lost half the factory guys in one race. Anderson looked fucked. He must have been pretty dazed to tip over on the straight like that. The initial hit didn't seem hard either...
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3/12/2022 9:26pm Edited Date/Time 3/12/2022 9:27pm
731chopper wrote:
He didn’t want to give up because that’s how much determination he has. I disagree with you whole heartedly that he shouldn’t be praised.
Webb wanted points...pretty simple. He was willing to do anything to maybe get a point or two.

That is a warrior. But he also was probably was a bit dazed.

In any case, never seen anyone do that and I also do commend him for being so tough and wanting it so much.
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ArmPumped wrote:
It was stupid of him to stay out there and it shouldn’t be praised.
LungButter wrote:
I’m not really sure what he was trying to accomplish?
Can only think that Webb was maybe concussed too?
No other reason to stay out there, the additional laps achieved nothing, If I’m his mechanic I’m pulling him in for his own good, and others.
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3/12/2022 10:01pm
Glad to hear Chase is ok . Man he took two hard hits . Webb staying out there I think was part anger and disbelief and not having any give up in him .
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3/12/2022 10:30pm
ArmPumped wrote:
It was stupid of him to stay out there and it shouldn’t be praised.
LungButter wrote:
I’m not really sure what he was trying to accomplish?
Yea that was a head scratcher... at first i assumed he was just trying to get back to the pits. Rolling around like that literally does nothing but make the race track more dangerous for everyone.
1) unless another rider crashed out after him it wasn't going to improve his pts.
2) he was skipping the whoops so it's not like it was even going to count.

Give the kid credit for showing heart but that was the epitome of brawn over brains.
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3/12/2022 10:37pm Edited Date/Time 3/13/2022 12:14am
731chopper wrote:
He didn’t want to give up because that’s how much determination he has. I disagree with you whole heartedly that he shouldn’t be praised.
kpiper wrote:
Webb wanted points...pretty simple. He was willing to do anything to maybe get a point or two. That is a warrior. But he also was probably...
Webb wanted points...pretty simple. He was willing to do anything to maybe get a point or two.

That is a warrior. But he also was probably was a bit dazed.

In any case, never seen anyone do that and I also do commend him for being so tough and wanting it so much.
Pretty simple? Please help me understand how he was going to score even a single additional pt by staying out there?

Was he going to pass someone? No. The only way he could have even theoretically scored more pts is if someone crashed out of the race entirely after him and he managed to complete more laps than them before the race was over. BUt he was skipping the whoops so it wouldn't have counted anyways.
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3/12/2022 10:59pm
HusqFan3 wrote:
Pretty simple? Please help me understand how he was going to score even a single additional pt by staying out there? Was he going to pass...
Pretty simple? Please help me understand how he was going to score even a single additional pt by staying out there?

Was he going to pass someone? No. The only way he could have even theoretically scored more pts is if someone crashed out of the race entirely after him and he managed to complete more laps than them before the race was over. BUt he was skipping the whoops so it wouldn't have counted anyways.
Yeah, that was one of the most stupid moves i have seen in a long time. If you are in a condition that you have to skip a whole section every lap just to get around the track, you should get black flagged and not riding around putting other riders at risk.
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3/13/2022 12:15am
HusqFan3 wrote:
Pretty simple? Please help me understand how he was going to score even a single additional pt by staying out there? Was he going to pass...
Pretty simple? Please help me understand how he was going to score even a single additional pt by staying out there?

Was he going to pass someone? No. The only way he could have even theoretically scored more pts is if someone crashed out of the race entirely after him and he managed to complete more laps than them before the race was over. BUt he was skipping the whoops so it wouldn't have counted anyways.
It seems like a rider should be black flagged if he is skipping a whoop section on every lap.
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bichwolf wrote:
HARD racing from the gate drop, a lot of battles going on that nobody was surrendering. Fantastic race, huge cost to some. Hope everyone is ok.
And those guys were all hauling ass and riding the ragged edge, man they were flying. I cant even believe how fast they ALL were going.
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3/13/2022 3:21am
Well Anderson did crash right afterwards… thats a 2 point swing… I dont feel either Jason or Cooper will miss time based on concussions being cleared in a week and Cooper staying out there. Obviously both may be out but that was surely a points move for sure. Those 2 points can be difference of a position and $$ at years end.
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3/13/2022 3:31am
Webb stayed out for points.
By making a lap or two more than anyone else who hit a landmine, he gets those additional position and points.

That's big picture thinking.
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3/13/2022 8:15am
Beat me to it! Maybe the craziest ever. For sure it ranks up there with Pontiac 2002 and Atlanta 1990SX where Jeff Ward won on the...
Beat me to it! Maybe the craziest ever. For sure it ranks up there with Pontiac 2002 and Atlanta 1990SX where Jeff Ward won on the last lap with unsponsored Nike lightning bolts in an attempt to get sponsorship.

Hope the riders who crashed are all okay.
Give us more on the Nike lightening bolts?
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3/13/2022 9:38am Edited Date/Time 3/13/2022 9:46am
Beat me to it! Maybe the craziest ever. For sure it ranks up there with Pontiac 2002 and Atlanta 1990SX where Jeff Ward won on the...
Beat me to it! Maybe the craziest ever. For sure it ranks up there with Pontiac 2002 and Atlanta 1990SX where Jeff Ward won on the last lap with unsponsored Nike lightning bolts in an attempt to get sponsorship.

Hope the riders who crashed are all okay.
Give us more on the Nike lightening bolts?
Other old farts help me out here but as I remember Jeff Ward was going after a Nike sponsorship. In a smooth move on his part, he went ahead and ran them in an attempt to sway Nike into a deal. Don't think the deal happened but definitely a great attempt. After over 30 years, my memory is a little hazy so would appreciate others adding to the story if they can.

Check out the 1990 Atlanta SX video
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3/13/2022 9:44am Edited Date/Time 3/13/2022 9:44am
Augustine wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/03/12/537821/s1200_C020F943_9DD1_4EEF_8652_65057B17AF74.jpg[/img] Detroit and crazy races man…


Detroit and crazy races man…
Nate Ramsey's 2002 Pontiac SX win video
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3/13/2022 9:47am
flarider wrote:
Webb stayed out for points. By making a lap or two more than anyone else who hit a landmine, he gets those additional position and points...
Webb stayed out for points.
By making a lap or two more than anyone else who hit a landmine, he gets those additional position and points.

That's big picture thinking.
I’m believing it is more along the lines of a sympathy play. He’s out of the title hunt, couldn’t gain points. A 1-2 point difference of staying out and being a hazard when the points leader is lapping you multiple times? Not sure use, not a big picture thought either.
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3/13/2022 9:48am
flarider wrote:
Webb stayed out for points. By making a lap or two more than anyone else who hit a landmine, he gets those additional position and points...
Webb stayed out for points.
By making a lap or two more than anyone else who hit a landmine, he gets those additional position and points.

That's big picture thinking.
Did the laps he rolled around skipping the whoops even count ? If so they shouldn't . He was effectively out of the race after that crash .
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3/13/2022 9:50am
731chopper wrote:
He didn’t want to give up because that’s how much determination he has. I disagree with you whole heartedly that he shouldn’t be praised.
kpiper wrote:
Webb wanted points...pretty simple. He was willing to do anything to maybe get a point or two. That is a warrior. But he also was probably...
Webb wanted points...pretty simple. He was willing to do anything to maybe get a point or two.

That is a warrior. But he also was probably was a bit dazed.

In any case, never seen anyone do that and I also do commend him for being so tough and wanting it so much.
HusqFan3 wrote:
Pretty simple? Please help me understand how he was going to score even a single additional pt by staying out there? Was he going to pass...
Pretty simple? Please help me understand how he was going to score even a single additional pt by staying out there?

Was he going to pass someone? No. The only way he could have even theoretically scored more pts is if someone crashed out of the race entirely after him and he managed to complete more laps than them before the race was over. BUt he was skipping the whoops so it wouldn't have counted anyways.
Maybe someone will ask Webb to elaborate on why he stayed out.

Yes, seemed pretty simple to me what he was thinking...the more laps he completed the greater chance he had of scoring a point or two. Skipping the whoops was an afterthought when he reached them.

Webb is a pure racer and champion...that is why he did what he did. Pretty obvious to me.

Surprised so many here don't get that.
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3/13/2022 9:55am
Question is why wasn’t Webb black-flagged? Does his 2X champion status grant him rights not afforded to other riders? This is a situation where race officials needed to step in. Webb was a hazard to himself and other riders. Maybe ML or Weege could shed some light on the decision-making.
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LoudLove wrote:
Question is why wasn’t Webb black-flagged? Does his 2X champion status grant him rights not afforded to other riders? This is a situation where race officials...
Question is why wasn’t Webb black-flagged? Does his 2X champion status grant him rights not afforded to other riders? This is a situation where race officials needed to step in. Webb was a hazard to himself and other riders. Maybe ML or Weege could shed some light on the decision-making.
Looked like he was doing a good job of not making himself a 'hazard' to anyone else as he rode around.
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3/13/2022 10:03am Edited Date/Time 3/13/2022 10:16am
ArmPumped wrote:
It was stupid of him to stay out there and it shouldn’t be praised.
I agree. At best he may have saved one point. In which case he will finish the series in the same spot he would’ve finished it anyways, but with one extra point. If there was any time to use a black flag that would be it!!!
Competitive nature and common sense are 2 different things… sometimes mutually exclusive but not always.
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3/13/2022 10:09am
731chopper wrote:
He didn’t want to give up because that’s how much determination he has. I disagree with you whole heartedly that he shouldn’t be praised.
kpiper wrote:
Webb wanted points...pretty simple. He was willing to do anything to maybe get a point or two. That is a warrior. But he also was probably...
Webb wanted points...pretty simple. He was willing to do anything to maybe get a point or two.

That is a warrior. But he also was probably was a bit dazed.

In any case, never seen anyone do that and I also do commend him for being so tough and wanting it so much.
Never saw something like before, but we did once see Ivan Tedesco finish an outdoor race without his helmet. Woohoo
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