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It loathes me to contribute to a COVID thread, but... I think it's fair to say that the pandemic has been misunderstood and mismanaged at various...
It loathes me to contribute to a COVID thread, but...

I think it's fair to say that the pandemic has been misunderstood and mismanaged at various stages as doctors, scientists, law makers and governments have all grappled with limited information, new data and a seemingly ever-changing disease. I appreciate that they have (mostly/possibly) done what they thought was the best with the info they had at the time.

However, it blows me away that in 2021/22 governments are just issuing pieces of paper as evidence of vaccination status. Why they are not using blockchain technology seems daft to me - secure and can easily store sufficient information to prove vaccination status anywhere in the world (and Courtney's post, and this thread, might not exist!).

Maybe someone more technologically-minded can explain why governments aren't using blockchain for vaccination cards?

Cheers
Simon
they fear tracking and the tracking chip

they do not want to govt to have anything, especially not a hand written card, much less a digital print
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interesting. So who is "media" or a "journalist" that covers our sport? Genuinely asking as I don't think I've ever read anyone from Vital specifically decline...
interesting. So who is "media" or a "journalist" that covers our sport? Genuinely asking as I don't think I've ever read anyone from Vital specifically decline the "journalist" title. I suppose as one of the guys interviewing riders post-race and inquiring about things for their feedback, I would have certainly called you JOURNALIST.
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To me working in media and being a journalist are still sorta two different things. Just because you work in media doesn't make you a journalist...
To me working in media and being a journalist are still sorta two different things. Just because you work in media doesn't make you a journalist.

Anyone can label themselves whatever they want. It's up to you to relate that to what matters in your opinion.
You are in a good place and for your own good you should stay there 😂
You don’t need the shitstorm that would hit if you stir stuff up based on a Instagram post. Smart man!
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Clearly you educated yourself on how vaccines work. 1. It isn't supposed to be a cure-all 2. It is very similar to the flu shot (which...as...
Clearly you educated yourself on how vaccines work.
1. It isn't supposed to be a cure-all
2. It is very similar to the flu shot (which...as we should know...doesn't cure/end the flu)
3. It lowers your chance of hospitalization (this is a statistically proven FACT.)

So yea...I'll get the vaccine and booster so I don't end up in the ICU.
I think a big part of that problem, is that millions of people did what they were urged to do, and ran out to get vaccinated as soon as they were available. They were all under the impression that this vaccine was a cure (think back to a year ago, even the president himself said so). I know many will take this as an insult, but the lion's share of these people were under the guidance of whoever is on TV, and I am betting at least 90% of them never consulted with their personal physicians when making that decision.

Fast forward to today, and there is a lot of bitter people for lots of various reasons. Some feel duped, some would rather keep their head in the sand and ignore the reality of flu shots and boosters holding out hope they are 'cured', and those who never got it, feel 'smart' for putting it off and seeing vaxxed all over the place getting Covid now. None of it is good, but by now we should have at least all learned enough to know the segregation is unwarranted (especially as time goes on), and continuing on with it, is odd, and dare I say, suspicious.
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That fake card worked out well for the Tampa Bay football player, not.
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I didn't read the entire 5 pages of this thread, but I can tell you that all supercross crew and administrative staff have to submit vaccination cards to Feld - I had to. Feld is also limiting the amount of support staff in the pits.

Here's the thing about fake cards - The State of California maintains a database on all vaccinations given in the state, so If a person claims to have been vaccinated in CA, they can look it up in the database to verify it.

I have the official CA virtual card in my iPhone's wallet showing date and location of vaccination.

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Supercross is a show, not a sport.
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Supercross is a show, not a sport.
As gnarly and scary as SX is, and as gnarly as these guys are, I 100% agree with you. Supercross is for show.
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interesting. So who is "media" or a "journalist" that covers our sport? Genuinely asking as I don't think I've ever read anyone from Vital specifically decline...
interesting. So who is "media" or a "journalist" that covers our sport? Genuinely asking as I don't think I've ever read anyone from Vital specifically decline the "journalist" title. I suppose as one of the guys interviewing riders post-race and inquiring about things for their feedback, I would have certainly called you JOURNALIST.
ML512 wrote:
To me working in media and being a journalist are still sorta two different things. Just because you work in media doesn't make you a journalist...
To me working in media and being a journalist are still sorta two different things. Just because you work in media doesn't make you a journalist.

Anyone can label themselves whatever they want. It's up to you to relate that to what matters in your opinion.
Wish more people understood this. There is plenty of media in MX/SX, I don't believe there are any journalist (I could be wrong and accept that). If we had journalist we would have "news" on this topic and topics like payouts, what happened to BB, why did Larry Brooks use "family time" as to why he was no longer with L&M, etc. Unfortunately this sport only allows "media" to penetrate it's ranks and lucky for them it's not big enough for a journalist to bother with it. This is also the problem with Fox, CNN, ONN, etc. People assume since it's on TV or internet it is work of journalist when many of the works put out is just "media". FOX has used that to avoid lawsuits by saying someone like Tucker is entertainment and not a journalist.
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1/5/2022 9:38am
are the riders of SX required to be vaxxed? what aabout spectators?
Technically no one is required to because it is not law.
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So the way it apparently is. If your vaxxed u get a credentials card that gets u into every race. If your not vaxed u have...
So the way it apparently is.
If your vaxxed u get a credentials card that gets u into every race.
If your not vaxed u have to covid test b4 every round and u get an arm band for that weekend.
Ppl have been using fake vax card to get the ama card so they don't have to test every week.
Can confirm. Media credential was the same way... vax card, or you pay for testing every week. There is also an option to prove you’ve had Covid in the past three months... so there’s that.
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1/5/2022 9:40am Edited Date/Time 1/5/2022 9:52am
Brent wrote:
I didn't read the entire 5 pages of this thread, but I can tell you that all supercross crew and administrative staff have to submit vaccination...
I didn't read the entire 5 pages of this thread, but I can tell you that all supercross crew and administrative staff have to submit vaccination cards to Feld - I had to. Feld is also limiting the amount of support staff in the pits.

Here's the thing about fake cards - The State of California maintains a database on all vaccinations given in the state, so If a person claims to have been vaccinated in CA, they can look it up in the database to verify it.

I have the official CA virtual card in my iPhone's wallet showing date and location of vaccination.

Yes. If Feld runs the lot numbers on the fake cards, they will find out who is using a fake card. At UPenn Hospital, we upload our lot numbers and they were verified.

There is no database linking your name to that lot number, but they can assure it is a real lot number, was a lot number used at that location and that time frame, and has not been associated with fake cards.

Penalty for making or knowingly buying one is up to 5 years in jail.

The no-testing for vaccinated people does not really make sense, though. We know that, with Omicron, vaccinated people, although less likely, still have significant chances of infection. There is no good data to suggest vaccinated people should not be tested in this circumstance. So it appears that an unjustified rule has resulted in people lying, which is not surprising.
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Brent wrote:
I didn't read the entire 5 pages of this thread, but I can tell you that all supercross crew and administrative staff have to submit vaccination...
I didn't read the entire 5 pages of this thread, but I can tell you that all supercross crew and administrative staff have to submit vaccination cards to Feld - I had to. Feld is also limiting the amount of support staff in the pits.

Here's the thing about fake cards - The State of California maintains a database on all vaccinations given in the state, so If a person claims to have been vaccinated in CA, they can look it up in the database to verify it.

I have the official CA virtual card in my iPhone's wallet showing date and location of vaccination.

Yes. If Feld runs the lot numbers on the fake cards, they will find out who is using a fake card. At UPenn Hospital, we upload...
Yes. If Feld runs the lot numbers on the fake cards, they will find out who is using a fake card. At UPenn Hospital, we upload our lot numbers and they were verified.

There is no database linking your name to that lot number, but they can assure it is a real lot number, was a lot number used at that location and that time frame, and has not been associated with fake cards.

Penalty for making or knowingly buying one is up to 5 years in jail.

The no-testing for vaccinated people does not really make sense, though. We know that, with Omicron, vaccinated people, although less likely, still have significant chances of infection. There is no good data to suggest vaccinated people should not be tested in this circumstance. So it appears that an unjustified rule has resulted in people lying, which is not surprising.
Which is a ridiculous penalty.
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1/5/2022 9:54am
Which is a ridiculous penalty.
It fraud.

Medical fraud
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Damn I love vital..

10 pager??

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This is what the California card looks like.

Cant really fake a QR code without a lot of work.
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1/5/2022 10:21am Edited Date/Time 1/5/2022 10:22am
France has vax passport, mask mandates, closed nightclubs ... the lot and is recording record cases. 300k today alone. I think the reality is the are merely performative items with very little utility in the real world.

It's just 'action bias'. People want to demonstrate they are 'doing something'. With Omicron about, the passports don't really seem to do much.
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[img]https://64.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kth8snMdNF1qa8vado1_400.jpg[/img]
Damn that mini horse got the same vaccine side effect as Nicki Minaj's cousins boyfriend did. Thoughts and prayers that he recovers.
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I think someones in her head...


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Geezus…we can’t have nice things around here lately. As I’ve been staying over and over lately, non-moto for COVID discussion. A bunch of you instantly take...
Geezus…we can’t have nice things around here lately. As I’ve been staying over and over lately, non-moto for COVID discussion. A bunch of you instantly take these things as an opportunity to argue Covid stats. Going to do some cleanup in here.

For those who have directly said something shitty about Roczen’s wife, you’ll find your accounts locked for now. There was about three of you who took it way too far. Personal attacks are unnecessary on a forum. Hope it helped your ego or something…

To put it simply, yes, there’s a bunch of riders and industry members who have gotten fake vaccine cards so they can enter each event without testing. Most have done this purely for convenience reasons. For the riders however, I feel bad. Most want the fake card so they won’t get booted from a race for possibly testing positive on a test with either minor to no symptoms or possibly even an illness that isn’t even Covid. However, some riders are trying to follow the rules and keep their moral compass by testing each week and ultimately could find themselves pulled from a race for testing positive while the guy they’re battling in points, maybe even the title would’ve tested positive too if he wasn’t skirting the rules with the fake card.

I think at the end of the day most in this industry are past the whosnright or wrong in this whole Covid mess, it’s just down to the races could be decided by someone’s moral decisions off track, nothing to do with their on track performance. And that’s a bummer. Not saying either is right or wrong, the whole situation just sucks now…
The simple answer is to have everyone test regardless of vaxxed status or not. It's clear now that vaxxed means nothing with regards to transmission anyway.
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Do you have evidence that this is happening Michael? If so, then you should report it to the governing bodies and probably on a Vital article...
Do you have evidence that this is happening Michael? If so, then you should report it to the governing bodies and probably on a Vital article. What you're claiming would have a huge impact on the series if it includes top riders. Nobody is past right or wrong if there are rules for the races.

If you know this is happening then name names

It's one thing for a civilian to make wild unsubstantiated claims accusing a broad swath of people without naming names. It's different for a journalist.
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You're the worst type. truly lol. Are you a cop by any chance?
why is he the worst type. Stick/ball sports media has covered extensively the vax story as well as vax cards (and fake ones). Because they are...
why is he the worst type. Stick/ball sports media has covered extensively the vax story as well as vax cards (and fake ones). Because they are JOURNALISTS covering a sport. We are supposed to have JOURNALISTS covering our sport, but we rarely get actual news/controversy/stories that aren't approved and practically written by internal PR departments.
Journalist is a loose term these days. Many true old school grassroots journalists will tell you anyone with a pencil can be a journalist. There is a whole generation of university educated “journalists” who are as much activists and opinion writers as journalists. True journalism is a dying breed.
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1/5/2022 10:37am Edited Date/Time 1/5/2022 11:57am
remember when Michael Jordan used to play with the highly contagious flu, sweating all over other guys, would score 50 points and win a championship? Yeah...
remember when Michael Jordan used to play with the highly contagious flu, sweating all over other guys, would score 50 points and win a championship? Yeah, me too.

Taking some of the healthiest athletes on earth and clutching our pearls over something that they literally have a .005% of dying from is just a continuation of the stupidity of this entire chapter of history - a chapter we will be mocked over for generations.
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.005 % of dying yet my wife is stacking bodies in a reefer truck at an ICU unit. Makes no sense to me... Healthy dudes that...
.005 % of dying yet my wife is stacking bodies in a reefer truck at an ICU unit. Makes no sense to me... Healthy dudes that are 50 come in and end up dead. My friends 28 year old brother died (all un-vaccinated people btw). The 28 year olds dad is 55 and now uses a walker and on oxygen 24/7 after he survived. We had played golf like 3 months ago. My friends 45 year old mother died. IDK maybe it's just not effecting your circle yet?

I agree healthy adults are lower percentage of deaths but just to dismiss this entire thing is crazy. I guess I'm in the minority here though.
Must be the “edit” cure doing it.
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1/5/2022 10:38am
Another angle that makes this whole thing even more ugly, their god-given natural immune systems. Pretty much everybody has had one flavor or another of Covid...
Another angle that makes this whole thing even more ugly, their god-given natural immune systems. Pretty much everybody has had one flavor or another of Covid by now (some have had it at least twice). Their natural immunity has been given the information just like the vaccination does. If you truly want to make this right in terms of requirements (vaccinations, etc.), folks who have had it, and built immunity, should be in the same boat as anybody else who is vaccinated... Their immunity is close to zero difference. It is like the entire world has been tricked into thinking they have somehow lost their natural immune systems and can't live without a vaccination.

These riders are in airports, hotels, etc. every week. Chances are good they have pretty much all had it by now. It is complete BS to look at it as vaxed or not, there is a HUGE gray area, that has been there since the beginning of mankind, and is still working today regardless of what you may see on TV.

Personally, I would understand vaccination requirements if the vaccination was curing a disease. But we know that is not the case, and never will be, so for us to continue to carry on with division and requirements, is bizarre.
Spot on, we should be testing people for their antibodies. We should also be promoting good health and therapeutics. We have amazing scientific capability but instead have squandered the hell out of it the last two years while having a one size fits all solution shoved down our throats which is really just a trojan horse for taking more control over our lives.
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remember when Michael Jordan used to play with the highly contagious flu, sweating all over other guys, would score 50 points and win a championship? Yeah...
remember when Michael Jordan used to play with the highly contagious flu, sweating all over other guys, would score 50 points and win a championship? Yeah, me too.

Taking some of the healthiest athletes on earth and clutching our pearls over something that they literally have a .005% of dying from is just a continuation of the stupidity of this entire chapter of history - a chapter we will be mocked over for generations.
kNewc wrote:
.005 % of dying yet my wife is stacking bodies in a reefer truck at an ICU unit. Makes no sense to me... Healthy dudes that...
.005 % of dying yet my wife is stacking bodies in a reefer truck at an ICU unit. Makes no sense to me... Healthy dudes that are 50 come in and end up dead. My friends 28 year old brother died (all un-vaccinated people btw). The 28 year olds dad is 55 and now uses a walker and on oxygen 24/7 after he survived. We had played golf like 3 months ago. My friends 45 year old mother died. IDK maybe it's just not effecting your circle yet?

I agree healthy adults are lower percentage of deaths but just to dismiss this entire thing is crazy. I guess I'm in the minority here though.
swordfish wrote:
Must be the “edit” cure doing it.
Glad to see you could take some time away from commenting on ryno Instagram posts
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kNewc wrote:
.005 % of dying yet my wife is stacking bodies in a reefer truck at an ICU unit. Makes no sense to me... Healthy dudes that...
.005 % of dying yet my wife is stacking bodies in a reefer truck at an ICU unit. Makes no sense to me... Healthy dudes that are 50 come in and end up dead. My friends 28 year old brother died (all un-vaccinated people btw). The 28 year olds dad is 55 and now uses a walker and on oxygen 24/7 after he survived. We had played golf like 3 months ago. My friends 45 year old mother died. IDK maybe it's just not effecting your circle yet?

I agree healthy adults are lower percentage of deaths but just to dismiss this entire thing is crazy. I guess I'm in the minority here though.
swordfish wrote:
Must be the “edit” cure doing it.
jambalaya wrote:
Glad to see you could take some time away from commenting on ryno Instagram posts
I’m trying to spread the love ❤️ 😘
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Was gonna say, they probably are already here and will be checking your covid card in the venues.

Hope any factory rider get busted but I can see that happening.
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When you can't agrue facts, insult
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"I hope you get so busted".... That's some spiteful shit.

Say what you want but wishing bad things on people is just trashy.
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When you can't agrue facts, insult
And when you get banned, just keep making new accounts. C'mon Dave.
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Another angle that makes this whole thing even more ugly, their god-given natural immune systems. Pretty much everybody has had one flavor or another of Covid...
Another angle that makes this whole thing even more ugly, their god-given natural immune systems. Pretty much everybody has had one flavor or another of Covid by now (some have had it at least twice). Their natural immunity has been given the information just like the vaccination does. If you truly want to make this right in terms of requirements (vaccinations, etc.), folks who have had it, and built immunity, should be in the same boat as anybody else who is vaccinated... Their immunity is close to zero difference. It is like the entire world has been tricked into thinking they have somehow lost their natural immune systems and can't live without a vaccination.

These riders are in airports, hotels, etc. every week. Chances are good they have pretty much all had it by now. It is complete BS to look at it as vaxed or not, there is a HUGE gray area, that has been there since the beginning of mankind, and is still working today regardless of what you may see on TV.

Personally, I would understand vaccination requirements if the vaccination was curing a disease. But we know that is not the case, and never will be, so for us to continue to carry on with division and requirements, is bizarre.
I think the issue is many many medically unqualified folk think they understand a global pandemic better then the qualified professionals.

Covid is going to around for a long time, antibodies from infections will wane. Variants will effect people differently each time.

I don’t see why people makes such a big deal out of a annual jab to reduce the risks significantly.
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1/5/2022 11:24am
It loathes me to contribute to a COVID thread, but... I think it's fair to say that the pandemic has been misunderstood and mismanaged at various...
It loathes me to contribute to a COVID thread, but...

I think it's fair to say that the pandemic has been misunderstood and mismanaged at various stages as doctors, scientists, law makers and governments have all grappled with limited information, new data and a seemingly ever-changing disease. I appreciate that they have (mostly/possibly) done what they thought was the best with the info they had at the time.

However, it blows me away that in 2021/22 governments are just issuing pieces of paper as evidence of vaccination status. Why they are not using blockchain technology seems daft to me - secure and can easily store sufficient information to prove vaccination status anywhere in the world (and Courtney's post, and this thread, might not exist!).

Maybe someone more technologically-minded can explain why governments aren't using blockchain for vaccination cards?

Cheers
Simon
If you think this response is just mass incompetence you are naive..They are intentionally setting up the paper vaccine passports to fail so they can roll out a mandated phone app which will eventually lead to a subdermal implant.
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