Is this really a thing??? (mandatory COVID vax for pro racers)

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9/2/2021 6:30am Edited Date/Time 9/2/2021 6:50am
soggy wrote:
Holy shit that was a wild ride.
The truth is crazier than fiction. That’s all publicly available information and is just the tip of the iceberg. If you can read this document from 2017 and tell me it’s a coincidence I will be very surprised. The mock social media posts in the paper are identical to actual posts from the same agencies.
https://m.box.com/shared_item/https%3A%2F%2Fapp.box.com%2Fs%2Fblv0656mr…

It amazes me people take pride in the fact that they don’t know how the world works and don’t consider all the information available just not what’s spoon fed to them by the TV and the first search result on Google.
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My dad and mom got covid and somehow they infected me too, none of us were sick more then a week then good again. I only vaccinated myself so I could fly and see my gf otherwise I would have said fuck off to that shit tbh.
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Wait a minute. Folks are talking about tyranny and this not being a free country, but this is not the government requiring vaccine. We’re talking about companies and organizations. Should we pass regulations that deny them the freedom to set their own health and safety requirements?

And should the US drop all vaccine requirements for immigrants?
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What blows my mind every time a topic like is brought up, people bring up how Americans should have the right to not take the vax. But anyone that’s been in public schools, haven’t we all been given different shots of vaccines? just hate how this virus has turn this country apart, love thy neighbor my friends.
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Can you guys take this shit to Facebook where it fucking belongs
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9/2/2021 6:48am
Kawi15 wrote:
It is hard for me to realize that there are people in this world want to control others and their choices. Whatever happened to my body...
It is hard for me to realize that there are people in this world want to control others and their choices. Whatever happened to my body, my life, my choice? Freedom and Liberty? There is enough bullying, peer pressure, and even threats of job loss these days to drive a person mad. If anybody wants to inject an experimental substance into their body in which the producers and administrators have zero liability, neither use their product themselves go right on ahead. As for me, I make my own choices and I have the right to do so. Not to mention that what they approved is not what they are injecting into peoples bodies at the moment. They blew through many regulations to give it the rubber stamp. They do not approve normal vaccines this way. Such deceit and immorality these days. So many tyrants about. Don't look.... Don't ask just sign it...After all it's safe and effective.....
soggy wrote:
The same people saying it should be a choice are the same people trying to ban abortion. So everyone’s a hypocrite
I think they are mostly joking at the "my body, my choice" movement when they say that and I think it is a fair point.
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wydopen wrote:
Really don’t want to keep commenting on vaccine threads but I honestly can’t believe how few people are understanding what’s happening here. This ISNT about your...
Really don’t want to keep commenting on vaccine threads but I honestly can’t believe how few people are understanding what’s happening here. This ISNT about your health or a virus, this is about the mega banks working with our captured governments to reshape society and the financial system into a corporate controlled “stakeholder capitalism” aka circular economy where you are granted a universal basic income that you can only spend at said corporations and your biometric ID is connected to your digital wallet so you can be tracked and monitored everywhere you go.. They are literally telling you what they are doing..It is so blatantly obvious If you look at the timeline and their own admissions but I guess people can’t break free of the spell the tv put them under. Look at the death data in the US last year. If they had not done widespread testing with a test not testing for the virus, not standardized so it admittedly has a high false positive rate and not done the media hype we would have said we had a bad flu season and moved on..this is a manufactured crisis, a permanent emergency so the people who created it can pose as the saviors. Read head of WEF klaus schwabs book, Covid-19 and the Great Reset and look at their propaganda materials. They literally say by 2030 you will “own nothing, have no privacy and be happy” you will also eat insects, weeds and drink sewage..literally. This is not a joke..

Here’s a simple timeline so you can wrap your head around this:

Early 1900’s Rockefeller’s monopolize medicine through the creation of the AMA and financial influence in American research institutions.

1949 Rockefeller’s and the OSS setup Mao in China to build the model of what they want to bring to the west, Authoritarian surveillance state.

1970’s. Chase Manhattan bank aka Rockefeller’s “opens up China to the west” creating the economic engine to begin undermining the United States. USA is taken off the gold standard so the banksters can create unlimited wealth and loan it interest free to their cronies

1990’s Chinese generals write paper on asymmetric 5th generation warfare where bio weapons and propaganda are used to weaken their enemies.

2000-2010 Rockefeller foundation in association with John’s Hopkins and the WEF write white papers and run several pandemic scenarios predicting a “more authoritarian style of government after pandemic subsides” among other things like a cyber attack on the financial system which is most likely coming next. At the same time Fauci was funding gain of function research on bat corona virus at UNC chapel hill. In 2013 after being pressured to halt said risky research fauci funded eco health alliance to move said research to Wuhan institute of virology.

John’s Hopkins releases Spars 2025-2028 a pandemic scenario in which there is a rush to vaccinate the public only to find out that it causes mass neurological disorders, blame is shifted to politicians and public health officials. Read it, it’s an exact model of what’s happened here. We are in 2026 of the scenario.

Sept 2019: Kerry Mullis inventor or PCR test and major critic of fauci and how he uses said test dies conveniently.

October 2019: John’s Hopkins, B&M Gates foundation and WEF put on Event 201 and corona virus pandemic scenario that mimics the initial response the governments and media take a few short months later.

Mystery virus appears in Wuhan China. Initial reports show people dying in the street (obviously fake), authorities welding people inside their homes etc etc causing extreme panic in the west leading to where we are now.

The vaccines were already developed and waiting. Personally do I think they are going to kill everyone who takes them? No..do I think they are a way to normalize the government mandating you genetically modify yourself under the liability protection of a “vaccine”? Most likely. These people have been writing books for a hundred years on how they want to play god and control the gene pool of all living things on earth. Not to mention the vaccines will drive the variants prolonging the emergency further transferring wealth and power to the mega corps and big banks. This is the largest transfer of wealth in the history of the world. You don’t think these people know you can’t just keep printing $ forever? They need an excuse to cover up the fact they’ve been artificially propping up the dollar for the last 30years and need a bigger crime to cover up the first. They are buying up all the real estate, farmland and bankrupting small business to consolidate power. Just look at the patents from the last few years..digital wallet hooked to your biometric ID. Subdermal implants that constantly monitor your symptoms etc etc.

What’s coming next? They will milk this emergency for as long as possible. More lockdowns this winter..when the public’s fear begins to wane they will say we need climate lockdowns since emissions were reduced so much over the last few years. Then they will release a cyber attack on the financial system. They are running the scenario now “Cyber Polygon” from the WEF which will usher in the digital world currency and allow everything you do to be tracked and traced. It will be linked to a Chinese style social credit score where your digital wallet can be turned on or off based on your behavior and internet history. They already wrote the white papers on it. This is WW4 and the majority of people don’t even know they are in it
soggy wrote:
Holy shit that was a wild ride.
You actually read that?
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toroP wrote:
Wait a minute. Folks are talking about tyranny and this not being a free country, but this is not the government requiring vaccine. We’re talking about...
Wait a minute. Folks are talking about tyranny and this not being a free country, but this is not the government requiring vaccine. We’re talking about companies and organizations. Should we pass regulations that deny them the freedom to set their own health and safety requirements?

And should the US drop all vaccine requirements for immigrants?
The government uses corporations to bypass the constitution. Just like they use the telecoms and tech companies to spy on you and track everything you do..just like how law enforcement has warrant less powers to use your ring camera footage..you loose your rights when you click the box on that service agreement
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9/2/2021 6:57am Edited Date/Time 9/2/2021 7:01am
I’m not taking the jab. Those of us who made this choice should be denied medical treatment for COVID since we made this choice by our own will. We all have to die right?
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9/2/2021 7:01am Edited Date/Time 9/2/2021 7:02am
Now that the FDA has approved there is nothing restricting business from requiring it.
San Francisco just announced the Golden State Warriors and all fans in the stadium will have to be vaccinated. City mandate for vacation at restaurants, bars, clubs, gyms, dance and yoga studios, and events with at least 1,000 attendees. Same for Berkeley across the bay.
San Francisco is your far left test case of what COVID mandatory vaccination will look like. Not even option to test anymore.
So I’m expecting it for the AMA Pro events.
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9/2/2021 7:08am Edited Date/Time 9/2/2021 7:08am
It's funny how all the bros suddenly became hippies.

The talking point used to be that FDA approval was so much more stringent compared to other countries and that's the reason drugs were more expensive in the US (it wasn't the reason).

This Wydopen guy sounds alot like GabeM...
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9/2/2021 7:21am Edited Date/Time 9/2/2021 7:21am
wydopen wrote:
Really don’t want to keep commenting on vaccine threads but I honestly can’t believe how few people are understanding what’s happening here. This ISNT about your...
Really don’t want to keep commenting on vaccine threads but I honestly can’t believe how few people are understanding what’s happening here. This ISNT about your health or a virus, this is about the mega banks working with our captured governments to reshape society and the financial system into a corporate controlled “stakeholder capitalism” aka circular economy where you are granted a universal basic income that you can only spend at said corporations and your biometric ID is connected to your digital wallet so you can be tracked and monitored everywhere you go.. They are literally telling you what they are doing..It is so blatantly obvious If you look at the timeline and their own admissions but I guess people can’t break free of the spell the tv put them under. Look at the death data in the US last year. If they had not done widespread testing with a test not testing for the virus, not standardized so it admittedly has a high false positive rate and not done the media hype we would have said we had a bad flu season and moved on..this is a manufactured crisis, a permanent emergency so the people who created it can pose as the saviors. Read head of WEF klaus schwabs book, Covid-19 and the Great Reset and look at their propaganda materials. They literally say by 2030 you will “own nothing, have no privacy and be happy” you will also eat insects, weeds and drink sewage..literally. This is not a joke..

Here’s a simple timeline so you can wrap your head around this:

Early 1900’s Rockefeller’s monopolize medicine through the creation of the AMA and financial influence in American research institutions.

1949 Rockefeller’s and the OSS setup Mao in China to build the model of what they want to bring to the west, Authoritarian surveillance state.

1970’s. Chase Manhattan bank aka Rockefeller’s “opens up China to the west” creating the economic engine to begin undermining the United States. USA is taken off the gold standard so the banksters can create unlimited wealth and loan it interest free to their cronies

1990’s Chinese generals write paper on asymmetric 5th generation warfare where bio weapons and propaganda are used to weaken their enemies.

2000-2010 Rockefeller foundation in association with John’s Hopkins and the WEF write white papers and run several pandemic scenarios predicting a “more authoritarian style of government after pandemic subsides” among other things like a cyber attack on the financial system which is most likely coming next. At the same time Fauci was funding gain of function research on bat corona virus at UNC chapel hill. In 2013 after being pressured to halt said risky research fauci funded eco health alliance to move said research to Wuhan institute of virology.

John’s Hopkins releases Spars 2025-2028 a pandemic scenario in which there is a rush to vaccinate the public only to find out that it causes mass neurological disorders, blame is shifted to politicians and public health officials. Read it, it’s an exact model of what’s happened here. We are in 2026 of the scenario.

Sept 2019: Kerry Mullis inventor or PCR test and major critic of fauci and how he uses said test dies conveniently.

October 2019: John’s Hopkins, B&M Gates foundation and WEF put on Event 201 and corona virus pandemic scenario that mimics the initial response the governments and media take a few short months later.

Mystery virus appears in Wuhan China. Initial reports show people dying in the street (obviously fake), authorities welding people inside their homes etc etc causing extreme panic in the west leading to where we are now.

The vaccines were already developed and waiting. Personally do I think they are going to kill everyone who takes them? No..do I think they are a way to normalize the government mandating you genetically modify yourself under the liability protection of a “vaccine”? Most likely. These people have been writing books for a hundred years on how they want to play god and control the gene pool of all living things on earth. Not to mention the vaccines will drive the variants prolonging the emergency further transferring wealth and power to the mega corps and big banks. This is the largest transfer of wealth in the history of the world. You don’t think these people know you can’t just keep printing $ forever? They need an excuse to cover up the fact they’ve been artificially propping up the dollar for the last 30years and need a bigger crime to cover up the first. They are buying up all the real estate, farmland and bankrupting small business to consolidate power. Just look at the patents from the last few years..digital wallet hooked to your biometric ID. Subdermal implants that constantly monitor your symptoms etc etc.

What’s coming next? They will milk this emergency for as long as possible. More lockdowns this winter..when the public’s fear begins to wane they will say we need climate lockdowns since emissions were reduced so much over the last few years. Then they will release a cyber attack on the financial system. They are running the scenario now “Cyber Polygon” from the WEF which will usher in the digital world currency and allow everything you do to be tracked and traced. It will be linked to a Chinese style social credit score where your digital wallet can be turned on or off based on your behavior and internet history. They already wrote the white papers on it. This is WW4 and the majority of people don’t even know they are in it
Wait the post was so insane I forgot to ask, WW4 and people don't know it? When did WW3 happen?

As a contractor with my own business that does DoD work I'm kind of pissed I missed it.
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9/2/2021 7:27am
Our local hospital is full, but everyone that is on a ventilator has not been vaccinated. Yes you can still get it after getting the shot, but not as bad if you do.
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wydopen
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9/2/2021 7:28am Edited Date/Time 9/2/2021 7:30am
vtnewb wrote:
Wait the post was so insane I forgot to ask, WW4 and people don't know it? When did WW3 happen? As a contractor with my own...
Wait the post was so insane I forgot to ask, WW4 and people don't know it? When did WW3 happen?

As a contractor with my own business that does DoD work I'm kind of pissed I missed it.
The intelligence agencies considered the Cold War ww3. Just fought using proxy armies in small scale conflicts and covert operations. Another manufactured crisis by the way..with the same banksters funding both sides
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9/2/2021 7:31am
Everyone has the right to do what they think is right for their health. My partner is a nurse and she's seen some ugly stuff from...
Everyone has the right to do what they think is right for their health.

My partner is a nurse and she's seen some ugly stuff from people who got the cure.
Yes they certainly do....

But.... here you come in, saying your wife has seen ugly stuff when people took the cure?? there is not a cure... so you've proven right there you have no idea what's up... and sadly, it seems the same can be said of your nurse wifey....

furthermore... I've seen uglier stuff than your wifey with people who did NOT take the shots... if she wants to compare ugly, i'm 10000% down, and she will lose....

at this point, the vaccine does not stop transmission.... but it is proven to help... we all took a bunch of shots when we were kids, and they did a vital job.... now that we are older, and have a say in what we put in our bodies, we still gotta be adults, and still gotta take a shot once in a while for the good of the whole...

I waited on the shot... I wanted more data.... and I kept waiting... got my second shot 2 weeks ago... and after having now lost two people close to me because of Covid, I feel a lot better walking around knowing I've got a tiny bit of protection from a proven killer....

what I see, is a bunch of scared people... when they get scared, they get mad, and wanna push back against the entire world.... and that is totally their right (if they live in America at least).... but when people do selfish things only because they are scared, that work for the worse of the whole, that's when people that are doing the right thing, gotta speak up....
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9/2/2021 7:32am
I think one great step in preventing deaths (covid and others) is to mandate folks (70% of you all) lose some f-ing weight…Tongue

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Mcflurry98 wrote:
85 years ago our grandfathers left to fight wars in the Pacific and in Europe while the women stayed here building tanks, planes, and bombs so...
85 years ago our grandfathers left to fight wars in the Pacific and in Europe while the women stayed here building tanks, planes, and bombs so that we could preserve our way of life here in the U.S, stop the spread of tyranny, and stop genocide. I'm sure that many of them didn't want to do it, but they felt a civic responsiblity to do so. Especially after the attack on Pearl Harbor.

Fast forward 85 years and we are arguing over how we stop this virus and preserve our way of life. We all have a civic responsibility in this. Some don't feel comfortable with the vaccine and that's understandable. Maybe the contribution that those people make is just wearing a mask indoors and social distancing. That's fine.

None the less, we all have a responsibility to contribute in SOME sort of way. Nobody liked doing a group project in school when half of the group contributed nothing because it was inconvenient for them, but then still reaped the benefits of what the contributing group members did.
wydopen wrote:
Really don’t want to keep commenting on vaccine threads but I honestly can’t believe how few people are understanding what’s happening here. This ISNT about your...
Really don’t want to keep commenting on vaccine threads but I honestly can’t believe how few people are understanding what’s happening here. This ISNT about your health or a virus, this is about the mega banks working with our captured governments to reshape society and the financial system into a corporate controlled “stakeholder capitalism” aka circular economy where you are granted a universal basic income that you can only spend at said corporations and your biometric ID is connected to your digital wallet so you can be tracked and monitored everywhere you go.. They are literally telling you what they are doing..It is so blatantly obvious If you look at the timeline and their own admissions but I guess people can’t break free of the spell the tv put them under. Look at the death data in the US last year. If they had not done widespread testing with a test not testing for the virus, not standardized so it admittedly has a high false positive rate and not done the media hype we would have said we had a bad flu season and moved on..this is a manufactured crisis, a permanent emergency so the people who created it can pose as the saviors. Read head of WEF klaus schwabs book, Covid-19 and the Great Reset and look at their propaganda materials. They literally say by 2030 you will “own nothing, have no privacy and be happy” you will also eat insects, weeds and drink sewage..literally. This is not a joke..

Here’s a simple timeline so you can wrap your head around this:

Early 1900’s Rockefeller’s monopolize medicine through the creation of the AMA and financial influence in American research institutions.

1949 Rockefeller’s and the OSS setup Mao in China to build the model of what they want to bring to the west, Authoritarian surveillance state.

1970’s. Chase Manhattan bank aka Rockefeller’s “opens up China to the west” creating the economic engine to begin undermining the United States. USA is taken off the gold standard so the banksters can create unlimited wealth and loan it interest free to their cronies

1990’s Chinese generals write paper on asymmetric 5th generation warfare where bio weapons and propaganda are used to weaken their enemies.

2000-2010 Rockefeller foundation in association with John’s Hopkins and the WEF write white papers and run several pandemic scenarios predicting a “more authoritarian style of government after pandemic subsides” among other things like a cyber attack on the financial system which is most likely coming next. At the same time Fauci was funding gain of function research on bat corona virus at UNC chapel hill. In 2013 after being pressured to halt said risky research fauci funded eco health alliance to move said research to Wuhan institute of virology.

John’s Hopkins releases Spars 2025-2028 a pandemic scenario in which there is a rush to vaccinate the public only to find out that it causes mass neurological disorders, blame is shifted to politicians and public health officials. Read it, it’s an exact model of what’s happened here. We are in 2026 of the scenario.

Sept 2019: Kerry Mullis inventor or PCR test and major critic of fauci and how he uses said test dies conveniently.

October 2019: John’s Hopkins, B&M Gates foundation and WEF put on Event 201 and corona virus pandemic scenario that mimics the initial response the governments and media take a few short months later.

Mystery virus appears in Wuhan China. Initial reports show people dying in the street (obviously fake), authorities welding people inside their homes etc etc causing extreme panic in the west leading to where we are now.

The vaccines were already developed and waiting. Personally do I think they are going to kill everyone who takes them? No..do I think they are a way to normalize the government mandating you genetically modify yourself under the liability protection of a “vaccine”? Most likely. These people have been writing books for a hundred years on how they want to play god and control the gene pool of all living things on earth. Not to mention the vaccines will drive the variants prolonging the emergency further transferring wealth and power to the mega corps and big banks. This is the largest transfer of wealth in the history of the world. You don’t think these people know you can’t just keep printing $ forever? They need an excuse to cover up the fact they’ve been artificially propping up the dollar for the last 30years and need a bigger crime to cover up the first. They are buying up all the real estate, farmland and bankrupting small business to consolidate power. Just look at the patents from the last few years..digital wallet hooked to your biometric ID. Subdermal implants that constantly monitor your symptoms etc etc.

What’s coming next? They will milk this emergency for as long as possible. More lockdowns this winter..when the public’s fear begins to wane they will say we need climate lockdowns since emissions were reduced so much over the last few years. Then they will release a cyber attack on the financial system. They are running the scenario now “Cyber Polygon” from the WEF which will usher in the digital world currency and allow everything you do to be tracked and traced. It will be linked to a Chinese style social credit score where your digital wallet can be turned on or off based on your behavior and internet history. They already wrote the white papers on it. This is WW4 and the majority of people don’t even know they are in it
Somebody was asking me who the tin foil hats guys are….
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toroP wrote:
Wait a minute. Folks are talking about tyranny and this not being a free country, but this is not the government requiring vaccine. We’re talking about...
Wait a minute. Folks are talking about tyranny and this not being a free country, but this is not the government requiring vaccine. We’re talking about companies and organizations. Should we pass regulations that deny them the freedom to set their own health and safety requirements?

And should the US drop all vaccine requirements for immigrants?
wydopen wrote:
The government uses corporations to bypass the constitution. Just like they use the telecoms and tech companies to spy on you and track everything you do..just...
The government uses corporations to bypass the constitution. Just like they use the telecoms and tech companies to spy on you and track everything you do..just like how law enforcement has warrant less powers to use your ring camera footage..you loose your rights when you click the box on that service agreement
Can this thread be removed.....please

There is too much BS in here and kids are now dying from Covid and people want to still argue why they don't want to get it, don't get it, just keep your ass at home.

Wydopen, your mouth is wide open and shit is coming out. Just go ride your dirt bike.

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9/2/2021 7:41am
My 24 year old niece died yesterday from covid and she was one of the my body my choice fools. Zero health problems. One plus was they were single no kids left without a mom etc. I feel sorry for my aunt she has to live with that guilt of what if she would have gotten vaccinated. Would she still be here.
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jjavaman wrote:
Somebody was asking me who the tin foil hats guys are….
Do you think I just made that up for fun? All you have to do is look into it yourself, it’s all out in the open…just real Klaus Schwabs book...They just rely on people’s compliance and people dismissing things that may make them uncomfortable without even looking into it for themselves. Might want to look into ex DARPA officials working for the Welcome Trust producing public documents talking about monitoring all children’s brain activity by 2030 and “intervening” when “undesirable” traits are discovered during the developmental process while you are at it..I wish I could make this stuff up I would be a sci-fi writer.
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Most of the racers have already had the Covid 19 strain so they should be immune but there is new strains. Let’s just say most of the riders are 20-30 years old that age range, in the U.S roughly 2,600 deaths from Covid at that age range. Maybe someone that knows statistics can tell me but that has to be around 98-99% survival rate. Out of all the deaths in the US 90% of them had pre existing problems mostly heart disease and diabetes which makes complete sense with the US is one of the leaders heart disease deaths already. So if your not healthy and have pre existing conditions then you should be concerned or worried. Why should myself or any of these young HEALTHY men need a jab when the survival rate for them is almost 100%. So put down the cheeseburgers, smokes and Red Bull’s this should be a realization for everyone to be more healthy!

My body my choice

Woman should have the right to an abortion

BUT IT SHOULD NEVER BE FUNDED BY TAX PAYERS DOLLARS!!!!

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9/2/2021 7:58am
toroP wrote:
Wait a minute. Folks are talking about tyranny and this not being a free country, but this is not the government requiring vaccine. We’re talking about...
Wait a minute. Folks are talking about tyranny and this not being a free country, but this is not the government requiring vaccine. We’re talking about companies and organizations. Should we pass regulations that deny them the freedom to set their own health and safety requirements?

And should the US drop all vaccine requirements for immigrants?
wydopen wrote:
The government uses corporations to bypass the constitution. Just like they use the telecoms and tech companies to spy on you and track everything you do..just...
The government uses corporations to bypass the constitution. Just like they use the telecoms and tech companies to spy on you and track everything you do..just like how law enforcement has warrant less powers to use your ring camera footage..you loose your rights when you click the box on that service agreement
Preston412 wrote:
Can this thread be removed.....please There is too much BS in here and kids are now dying from Covid and people want to still argue why...
Can this thread be removed.....please

There is too much BS in here and kids are now dying from Covid and people want to still argue why they don't want to get it, don't get it, just keep your ass at home.

Wydopen, your mouth is wide open and shit is coming out. Just go ride your dirt bike.

Which do you want him to do, stay home or go ride? He can't do both (unless he has a track at his house) according to your self-righteous post.

You did the exact same thing you are complaining about wanting the thread flushed.

Can you see the hypocrisy now?

If you want the vaccination, get it. It's your choice. If you don't want it, don't get it. Again your choice. It's not my nor anyone else's job to judge what best for any particular person. One size does not fit all in this situation. Too many variables.
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9/2/2021 8:01am
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Owen H
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9/2/2021 8:07am
kawasa84 wrote:
I work in a large factory. (over 5000 people go through the gates everyday) Me being in TX, I'm in the minority of those around me...
I work in a large factory. (over 5000 people go through the gates everyday) Me being in TX, I'm in the minority of those around me that are vaccinated. The Pfizer vaccines I received last May are now FDA Approved. No different than taking an FDA approved prescription medicine from your doctor, which I know 100% of everyone on here has in there lifetime.
I choose to work 3rd shift because there is about 80% less people in the plant while I'm at work.
On my shift, there are only 10 of us in my department (including myself), and in a general proximity to me. I am the only one who chose to get vaccinated. Since August 1st, 3 of the of my coworkers have contracted Covid. One of my coworkers was hospitalized 9 days and died of Covid on August 22nd. He was 60 years old, with 4 grandchildren, a wonderful wife, (who also got Covid but survived) and 2 adult children. He was otherwise healthy, and had no underlying conditions. I have another coworker on my shift who has been hospitalized in ICU since August 14th, and is on a ventilator. His prognosis is day to day currently.
The 3rd was very sick, but is recovering and should be back to work after the Labor Day holiday.
I also lost a 46 year old cousin to Covid less than 3 months ago. He was a very healthy strong man.
This all has affected me greatly.
I will NEVER understand the bullshit politics that have influenced so many and the other unjustified reasons for remaining unvaccinated.
A few years ago, folks would say they couldn't do a 6th graders math, yet today they believe they're smarter than scientists, and doctors??
Those who won't get the FDA approved vaccine, are basically ruining the party for the rest of us.
While its mostly now killing voters on one side than the other, its still a human life.
You are intellectually compromised.
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9/2/2021 8:15am
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The truth is crazier than fiction. That’s all publicly available information and is just the tip of the iceberg. If you can read this document from...
The truth is crazier than fiction. That’s all publicly available information and is just the tip of the iceberg. If you can read this document from 2017 and tell me it’s a coincidence I will be very surprised. The mock social media posts in the paper are identical to actual posts from the same agencies.
https://m.box.com/shared_item/https%3A%2F%2Fapp.box.com%2Fs%2Fblv0656mr…

It amazes me people take pride in the fact that they don’t know how the world works and don’t consider all the information available just not what’s spoon fed to them by the TV and the first search result on Google.
Don't waste your time. If it doesn't come from the government approved sources, people won't even listen. Critical thinking died with the 24 hr news cycle.
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9/2/2021 8:22am
Seems the crowd is split down the middle on this.

I personally wanted to get it and fight it naturally , without the vax. I ended up getting Covid on August 8th. I did the self quarantine thing for a good 14 days. Had all the usual symptoms ( which kinda sucked , but expected ).

I've been completely feeling normal now for about a week. Only issues I have now are some mild headaches and stomach aches , which are pretty mild. A lack of energy , but that's almost back to normal...... except my cardio. That is basically wiped out , and will have to rebuild from scratch.

I just looked at the numbers , which is a 99.8% mortality rate , and knew my chances of beating this thing on my own were pretty good. I would do it again this way as well. I have built up my own antibodies and T-cells ( whatever the heck those things are ).

Bottom line was , I could have picked this thing up from a vaccinated person. I'm not sure who I got it from , but I'm glad I finally got it and beat it. I chose to fight it on my own.....and that choice should be up to the individual. The vax helps protects " You ".....not me , or anyone else. So the people out there that haven't gotten the vax....are doing that by choice. ( Most anyways ). How about worry about yourself , since you can spread it just as easily as I could. And don't worry about people who don't get the shots......it's their battle to fight....not yours.
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9/2/2021 8:32am
If I were going for a championship I would have had the vaccine months ago. I couldn’t imagine what it would be like to lose a championship by being forced to miss one of the last rounds with Covid.
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9/2/2021 8:44am
Robgvx wrote:
If I were going for a championship I would have had the vaccine months ago. I couldn’t imagine what it would be like to lose a...
If I were going for a championship I would have had the vaccine months ago. I couldn’t imagine what it would be like to lose a championship by being forced to miss one of the last rounds with Covid.
The vaccine won’t prevent you from getting it and testing positive. They have seen the viral load for a vaccinated person has to get higher than unvaxxed before the vaccinated show symptoms. That may in part explain the rapid spread we are seeing.

Also the shot identifies the spike protein which rapidly mutates. Natural immunity targets the N protein which does not rapidly mutate. So natural immunity will protect against a much larger group of variants (possibly all). Natural immunity also lasts significantly longer. They are saying boosters are needed every 5 months based on antibody titers of vaccinated persons.
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