How was Mcadoo permitted to restart? Seriously?

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DonM 4/13/2021 7:39pm
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Bultaco wrote:
I take you were there? Part of the medical staff?

Thank you for your internet enabled opinion.
erustonmi wrote:
Also, this is a forum i.e. a message board that is made for people's opinions??? so if you don't want to see them then hop off...
Also, this is a forum i.e. a message board that is made for people's opinions??? so if you don't want to see them then hop off bud. See there I did the thinking for you, your welcome!
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JT Moto, is that you?
I would say yes....
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Have any of you naysayers ever had an actual concussion? Or seen a friend with a concussion for that matter? Dude recalled the incident to a...
Have any of you naysayers ever had an actual concussion? Or seen a friend with a concussion for that matter? Dude recalled the incident to a T and then sounded fine on the podium afterwards. Still made the podium. Gnarly motherf$$$$er
13 so far. 12 of them before I was 28 and I'm 32 now. Not once was I ever able to be as cognizant or aware of my surroundings as Cam was. When I heard him answering the questions on the "ghost broadcast" I couldn't believe it myself, I for sure thought he would be totally out of it. He sounded completely fine and his riding afterwards is more proof that he was clearly capable. Someone with a concussion doesn't ride like that and deliver a podium interview like that.

Before any turds try to flame me....that's my opinion and no I'm not a doctor. Just had 6 concussions. I mean 13. Or...where am I?
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aeffertz wrote:
The quickest and easiest concussion test is to ask if they remember how they crashed or what happened. He recited it instantly to the T. Was...
The quickest and easiest concussion test is to ask if they remember how they crashed or what happened. He recited it instantly to the T. Was the crash/did the crash look gnarly? Of course, but that doesn't mean his head was shook. The medics on hand assessed the situation and he passed and raced his way to a podium finish.

No harm, no foul IMO.
This is way too reasonable
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snackfedbear wrote:
Have any of you naysayers ever had an actual concussion? Or seen a friend with a concussion for that matter? Dude recalled the incident to a...
Have any of you naysayers ever had an actual concussion? Or seen a friend with a concussion for that matter? Dude recalled the incident to a T and then sounded fine on the podium afterwards. Still made the podium. Gnarly motherf$$$$er
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13 so far. 12 of them before I was 28 and I'm 32 now. Not once was I ever able to be as cognizant or aware...
13 so far. 12 of them before I was 28 and I'm 32 now. Not once was I ever able to be as cognizant or aware of my surroundings as Cam was. When I heard him answering the questions on the "ghost broadcast" I couldn't believe it myself, I for sure thought he would be totally out of it. He sounded completely fine and his riding afterwards is more proof that he was clearly capable. Someone with a concussion doesn't ride like that and deliver a podium interview like that.

Before any turds try to flame me....that's my opinion and no I'm not a doctor. Just had 6 concussions. I mean 13. Or...where am I?
He obviously didnt hit his head, just had the soil sample of the century and wound up a lap down.

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Dirty Points 4/13/2021 8:04pm
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He sounded VERY normal when speaking to the medical staff. He was not knocked out. He recalled the whole incident clearly. He had no physical injuries...
He sounded VERY normal when speaking to the medical staff. He was not knocked out. He recalled the whole incident clearly. He had no physical injuries that prevented him from racing. He beat 19 people in the main and didn’t look out of control one bit. These are ALL signs he was more than healthy enough to race.

Football players take more punishment in one quarter than what Cameron went through. Use your head before you post. 🤦‍♂️😉
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GTFO of here with the football statement. Those guys have 25lbs of padding on, do one play then pat each others asses for 5 minutes. This...
GTFO of here with the football statement. Those guys have 25lbs of padding on, do one play then pat each others asses for 5 minutes. This kid just lawn darted himself in a fancy T-shirt basically into a wall.
ajk423 wrote:
You're absolutely wrong about football. Those collisions are brutal, just because they're a minute apart or so doesn't make them less viscious. The 25lbs of padding...
You're absolutely wrong about football. Those collisions are brutal, just because they're a minute apart or so doesn't make them less viscious. The 25lbs of padding you're referring to is incorrect also. I played in college
, and I also race motocross. They are on different levels.
Let's be real though: With that hit, Mcadoo is damn lucky he ended up on the podium rather than the ICU.
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At best he should’ve been held at gate drop, to put him at the back of the pack, where he would’ve been if they hadn’t stopped...
At best he should’ve been held at gate drop, to put him at the back of the pack, where he would’ve been if they hadn’t stopped the race for him. Total bs to stop the race so the crasher can recover and get another chance.
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Do you want to make up rules or follow the rules?
Was he actively participating when the flag was thrown?
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SlowOldGuy 4/13/2021 8:09pm
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toroP wrote:
Was he actively participating when the flag was thrown?
I think the actively participating part is only in the stagger start restart rule
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Shiner590 4/13/2021 8:11pm
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It’s hard to say, but 99% of the time people lay on the track for multiple minutes it’s because they’re actually hurt and they don’t re-enter the race.
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TbonesPop 4/13/2021 8:15pm
4/13/2021 8:15pm
I don't know what the rule is in the rule book. Whatever it is, the AMA should follow the rules. If someone doesn't like or agree with the rules, work to change the rules in the offseason. Otherwise, STFU and go race.
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m121c 4/13/2021 8:15pm
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toroP wrote:
At best he should’ve been held at gate drop, to put him at the back of the pack, where he would’ve been if they hadn’t stopped...
At best he should’ve been held at gate drop, to put him at the back of the pack, where he would’ve been if they hadn’t stopped the race for him. Total bs to stop the race so the crasher can recover and get another chance.
DonM wrote:
Do you want to make up rules or follow the rules?
toroP wrote:
Was he actively participating when the flag was thrown?
He never left the track and was trying to get up.. seems active. Thats a philosophical question really.

In that moment, everything pointed to him being able to race. He sat on the gate for 5 minutes almost, AMA had plenty of time to interpret the rule and make a decision.

Should guys who get in first turn crashes (but are not the rider who the flag is thrown for) also not be allowed a fair restart. I mean they are a lap behind the pack almost.

A better rule would be all riders who pass the red flag during an certain interval of time are allowed to be in the race... but thats not the rule.
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DonM wrote:
Do you want to make up rules or follow the rules?
toroP wrote:
Was he actively participating when the flag was thrown?
m121c wrote:
He never left the track and was trying to get up.. seems active. Thats a philosophical question really. In that moment, everything pointed to him being...
He never left the track and was trying to get up.. seems active. Thats a philosophical question really.

In that moment, everything pointed to him being able to race. He sat on the gate for 5 minutes almost, AMA had plenty of time to interpret the rule and make a decision.

Should guys who get in first turn crashes (but are not the rider who the flag is thrown for) also not be allowed a fair restart. I mean they are a lap behind the pack almost.

A better rule would be all riders who pass the red flag during an certain interval of time are allowed to be in the race... but thats not the rule.
I actually like that rule. That makes sense, see the red flag? Go past it, exit...back to gate. If the rider down can't do that....dunzo.
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Racer_336 wrote:
He sounded VERY normal when speaking to the medical staff. He was not knocked out. He recalled the whole incident clearly. He had no physical injuries...
He sounded VERY normal when speaking to the medical staff. He was not knocked out. He recalled the whole incident clearly. He had no physical injuries that prevented him from racing. He beat 19 people in the main and didn’t look out of control one bit. These are ALL signs he was more than healthy enough to race.

Football players take more punishment in one quarter than what Cameron went through. Use your head before you post. 🤦‍♂️😉
Fourth_Floor wrote:
GTFO of here with the football statement. Those guys have 25lbs of padding on, do one play then pat each others asses for 5 minutes. This...
GTFO of here with the football statement. Those guys have 25lbs of padding on, do one play then pat each others asses for 5 minutes. This kid just lawn darted himself in a fancy T-shirt basically into a wall.
ajk423 wrote:
You're absolutely wrong about football. Those collisions are brutal, just because they're a minute apart or so doesn't make them less viscious. The 25lbs of padding...
You're absolutely wrong about football. Those collisions are brutal, just because they're a minute apart or so doesn't make them less viscious. The 25lbs of padding you're referring to is incorrect also. I played in college
, and I also race motocross. They are on different levels.
Sorry, 20lbs of padding.

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Darrin Willis 4/13/2021 8:27pm
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erustonmi wrote:
You do not have to be a rocket scientist to see what the crash looked like genius, use some common sense.
Racer_336 wrote:
He sounded VERY normal when speaking to the medical staff. He was not knocked out. He recalled the whole incident clearly. He had no physical injuries...
He sounded VERY normal when speaking to the medical staff. He was not knocked out. He recalled the whole incident clearly. He had no physical injuries that prevented him from racing. He beat 19 people in the main and didn’t look out of control one bit. These are ALL signs he was more than healthy enough to race.

Football players take more punishment in one quarter than what Cameron went through. Use your head before you post. 🤦‍♂️😉
Fourth_Floor wrote:
GTFO of here with the football statement. Those guys have 25lbs of padding on, do one play then pat each others asses for 5 minutes. This...
GTFO of here with the football statement. Those guys have 25lbs of padding on, do one play then pat each others asses for 5 minutes. This kid just lawn darted himself in a fancy T-shirt basically into a wall.
That was good.
PabloEscobar 4/13/2021 8:28pm
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Who cares at this point about the merits/safety of him being allowed to race after the race was red flagged for him? That performance was ALL TIME and something any true fan of the sport should be able to enjoy talking about for many years to come. Great job to RAM IT.
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Racer_336 wrote:
He sounded VERY normal when speaking to the medical staff. He was not knocked out. He recalled the whole incident clearly. He had no physical injuries...
He sounded VERY normal when speaking to the medical staff. He was not knocked out. He recalled the whole incident clearly. He had no physical injuries that prevented him from racing. He beat 19 people in the main and didn’t look out of control one bit. These are ALL signs he was more than healthy enough to race.

Football players take more punishment in one quarter than what Cameron went through. Use your head before you post. 🤦‍♂️😉
Fourth_Floor wrote:
GTFO of here with the football statement. Those guys have 25lbs of padding on, do one play then pat each others asses for 5 minutes. This...
GTFO of here with the football statement. Those guys have 25lbs of padding on, do one play then pat each others asses for 5 minutes. This kid just lawn darted himself in a fancy T-shirt basically into a wall.
ajk423 wrote:
You're absolutely wrong about football. Those collisions are brutal, just because they're a minute apart or so doesn't make them less viscious. The 25lbs of padding...
You're absolutely wrong about football. Those collisions are brutal, just because they're a minute apart or so doesn't make them less viscious. The 25lbs of padding you're referring to is incorrect also. I played in college
, and I also race motocross. They are on different levels.
F=m x a.... mass and acceleration are usually both greater in motocross. I’m going to have to disagree with you bud. Not saying the collision in football are not brutal, but dirt bikes are faster than someone running, and have a lot more kinetic energy. 230lb linebacker running at 15mph vs 190lb traveling 30 mph, it’s not even close.
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davermz450 4/13/2021 8:33pm
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Read about Natasha Richardson, Liam Nelson’s wife. She hit her head while skiing and 2 hours later complained about headaches. She had a “brain bleed” and died 2 days later. I understand that most of the time when people hit their head it’s not too bad but as hard as that crash was I think it’s better to play it safe
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ninesevenfour 4/13/2021 8:43pm
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I could get on board with the rider causing the red flag starting last, or delayed.
Had the crash ended up outside of the actual course, not triggering a red flag, McAdoo would have had to gather himself and get his bike bent back into shape before rejoining the race. His position at the end of the night would have been way different.
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davermz450 wrote:
Read about Natasha Richardson, Liam Nelson’s wife. She hit her head while skiing and 2 hours later complained about headaches. She had a “brain bleed” and...
Read about Natasha Richardson, Liam Nelson’s wife. She hit her head while skiing and 2 hours later complained about headaches. She had a “brain bleed” and died 2 days later. I understand that most of the time when people hit their head it’s not too bad but as hard as that crash was I think it’s better to play it safe
He didn’t really hit his head that hard. Most concussions come from the head being whipped into the ground. His head didn’t hit that hard it was everything that happened after that made it look so violent
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soggy 4/13/2021 9:00pm
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I’m just glad he wasn’t tossed off the top of the table, that could of been really ugly and when you couldn’t see him behind his bike I thoughts that’s what happened. Epic ride.
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Here is the rule book, go take a look at page 35. Nowhere does the rule book say the person causing a red flag can't restart the race, the only people that can't restart would be ones that didn't take the original start.

Also if you look at concussion policy is on page 65, the Alpinestars Mobil Medical Unit must not have suspected he sustained a concussion and that's why he was allowed to compete.

https://www.amasupercross.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/2021-AMA-Super…

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speed_racer 4/13/2021 9:11pm
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How about some memes from his crash, since he is okay. He rode the face of that jump with his face, then full rag doll into a faceplant. It might of only been a quick nap for survival purposes but he took a dirt nap. Way better we have drama from his race then drama from some big injury. All these guys will go 450 eventually and have time to even out or settle any scores. Either way Cooper showed he can win regardless of head games. All the past bad dudes from the 80's were knocked out and raced anyway, no biggie. 20 pager, let it rip.
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MyBobbym 4/13/2021 11:18pm
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Bultaco wrote:
I take you were there? Part of the medical staff?

Thank you for your internet enabled opinion.
erustonmi wrote:
You do not have to be a rocket scientist to see what the crash looked like genius, use some common sense.
DonM wrote:
The medical staff cleared him to race and there is no rule that says a rider can’t restart the race before 3 laps have been run...
The medical staff cleared him to race and there is no rule that says a rider can’t restart the race before 3 laps have been run if they have caused the red flag...that in a nutshell is how he was allowed to race....and he proved he was alright by finishing on the podium...
You and all yer bullshit logic has no place here at the alternative facts mx web site.
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davermz450 wrote:
Read about Natasha Richardson, Liam Nelson’s wife. She hit her head while skiing and 2 hours later complained about headaches. She had a “brain bleed” and...
Read about Natasha Richardson, Liam Nelson’s wife. She hit her head while skiing and 2 hours later complained about headaches. She had a “brain bleed” and died 2 days later. I understand that most of the time when people hit their head it’s not too bad but as hard as that crash was I think it’s better to play it safe
She was pretty fine too, but this is moto.
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davermz450 wrote:
Read about Natasha Richardson, Liam Nelson’s wife. She hit her head while skiing and 2 hours later complained about headaches. She had a “brain bleed” and...
Read about Natasha Richardson, Liam Nelson’s wife. She hit her head while skiing and 2 hours later complained about headaches. She had a “brain bleed” and died 2 days later. I understand that most of the time when people hit their head it’s not too bad but as hard as that crash was I think it’s better to play it safe
soggy wrote:
He didn’t really hit his head that hard. Most concussions come from the head being whipped into the ground. His head didn’t hit that hard it...
He didn’t really hit his head that hard. Most concussions come from the head being whipped into the ground. His head didn’t hit that hard it was everything that happened after that made it look so violent
I agree. That's what it looked to me as well. Maybe being connected to the bike kinda helped in this particular situation. Totally different than when Chad's boot got stuck with the bike during a get off. Glad he seems okay and hope nothing negative develops later. He definitely sounded lucid and alert.
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PRM31 4/14/2021 3:18am
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If he was evaluated, and they found nothing major wrong, how could they not let him race?
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Well it’s very nice of the AMA to give little cameron a mulligan!!! I’m sure it was convenient that a catastrophic mistake turned into a full restart for the guy.
Got to stay in the championship after a mistake that should cost him 26 points.

How most people are cool with this is beyond me but hey, I guess I was held accountable for my mistakes growing up.
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mxdoctor 4/14/2021 3:48am
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I think in Europe (in SX) the rider who "caused" the red flag is not allowed to line up again for the restart.
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PRM31 wrote:
If he was evaluated, and they found nothing major wrong, how could they not let him race?
Because the thought process is flawed, if he cartwheeled off the side of the track they wouldn’t have red flagged it and he would have lost tons of points. But since he was still on the track they waved the red flag for zero reason as he was walking to his bike and he got to try again, you go little Cameron!!!!!
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I played football in 8th grade for a half season. Just wanted to say that.
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PRM31 wrote:
If he was evaluated, and they found nothing major wrong, how could they not let him race?
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Because the thought process is flawed, if he cartwheeled off the side of the track they wouldn’t have red flagged it and he would have lost...
Because the thought process is flawed, if he cartwheeled off the side of the track they wouldn’t have red flagged it and he would have lost tons of points. But since he was still on the track they waved the red flag for zero reason as he was walking to his bike and he got to try again, you go little Cameron!!!!!
?? But he did not cartwheel off the track, he was on the track, and they did throw a red flag, and no he was not walking to his bike yet. Given what ACTUALLY happened, from a medical standpoint they had no reason to not let him race.

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