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GregP221 3/7/2021 6:15am
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otg042 wrote:
Webb knew he had a chance to bury Kenny further in the pack by running him wide like he did. I'm not a fan of that...
Webb knew he had a chance to bury Kenny further in the pack by running him wide like he did. I'm not a fan of that kind of racing. Same crap he did to Tomac in Salt Lake last year.

I'm a fan of racing and passing, not a fan of trying to ruin a guys race or potentially his season.
You mean like when Tomac did it to Dungey multiple times in the same race?
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KurtJ99 3/7/2021 6:16am
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The highlight real has a good replay. What a non-event. After watching the race the first time and hearing Roczens non-podium interview I thought some contact was made and he hit the tough blocks. The replay shows Cooper ran Roczen wide to secure a position ahead of him, normal racing block pass no contact. If that was Barcia, he would have hit Ken so hard he still would have to go into the grandstands to find his bike.
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mxbrian15 3/7/2021 6:22am
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Motodave15 wrote:
Webb can fuck off.. somebody needs to punt him
We get it. You dislike Webb. Half of your posts are about how someone should punt Webb, or F off, or something to that effect.

Take a deep breath. It will all be ok.
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resetjet 3/7/2021 6:42am
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Hey a payback is due, but i wouldnt announce it to the ama in advance.
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LKHill wrote:
I am OK with it. That's racing as they say. They also say payback is hell. On the surface it looks all good. On the flip...
I am OK with it. That's racing as they say. They also say payback is hell. On the surface it looks all good. On the flip side I am not sure he should have awakened the sleeping dog in KRoc.

One thing is for sure, as they say time will tell, lol.


For all the Webb nut huggers what do you think about Webb just taking the inside and coming away with the lead, lol? How smart would that have been? Even if he would have come out in second he surely could have dominated Kenny and took the win, right? Seems to me he threw away a win, no?
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LKHill 3/7/2021 6:56am
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No
So if he would have settled for second in the first corner he could have not passed Kenny. I see.
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2WheelPilot 3/7/2021 7:04am
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Just curious if any were f you guys complaining about Webb have ever seen McGrath ride. That dude never hesitated making an aggressive pass if he...
Just curious if any were f you guys complaining about Webb have ever seen McGrath ride. That dude never hesitated making an aggressive pass if he needed to. He just wanted to win.
Or Hannah. Hannah is almost a god here, but anyone using his tactics against their hero is evil. It was a smart move. If I'd been Ken, I'd have been pissed at Webb... for a few minutes. Then pissed at myself for letting it happen. Again. Webb doesn't have any more pace than Roczen, but he has WAY more racecraft. If pace is equal, and those two are together, Coop will take the position.
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ATKpilot99 wrote:
[embed][/embed] Payback for what ? There's a clear view of it in this highlight video. It was nothing. Just a very nice move.


Payback for what ? There's a clear view of it in this highlight video. It was nothing. Just a very nice move.
Pretty much tells the story it does. Webb was aware of who he needs to start in front of ( & why ) & executed it perfectly.

This is great ! ; 2 point spread 1/2 way in.
Hope 94 doesn't crack & ruin a great season finish, Its certain that Webb won't, he's the one applying the pressure.
Enjoy the show.
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mike156 3/7/2021 7:39am
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Webb is there to race, win, not make friends or give AF.
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Good clean racing.....
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The series has just started, wait and see.

I am by no means a huge fan of Coop, but his racecraft and strategy is second to none. From his riding alone you can clearly see he is 110% committed.
So far this season - Kenny is hesitating, he needs to bring out the "Alpha dog" from a couple of years back.
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kpiper 3/7/2021 8:04am
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Anyone who thinks that was some kind of dirty move is nuts. Kenny included. Totally clean move.

If you have the inside line you control things usually and Webb was making sure he kept KR behind him. You keep your bike in front of him is how that is done.

What kind of racer would NOT do that in the same situation? Only a dumb one.

And have we not seen Webb do this exact same thing (except it being a pass) to Kenny repeatedly for the last three years except it is usually in the last couple of turns to take the win?

Kenny is just mad at himself as he sees his large points lead disappear to a guy he has no history of beating when it counts. He should be mad at himself too. Dumb comments by KR though.
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toroP 3/7/2021 8:12am
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It’s seems Ken inexplicably forgot who Cooper is. Ken knew where Cooper lined up. Ken had a gap, and had a chance to control the inside, but didn’t.
He could have chopped Cooper’s line early, but rolled out the red carpet instead.
In fact, watching the highlight reel, Ken was in position to fight for the inside and the lead.
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motomike137 3/7/2021 8:15am
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Go watch highlights of Ayrton Senna or Michael Shumacher at the start of a race. Webb has that mentality. Kenny whining about it on the podium probably made Coop giggle.
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kpiper 3/7/2021 8:23am
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toroP wrote:
It’s seems Ken inexplicably forgot who Cooper is. Ken knew where Cooper lined up. Ken had a gap, and had a chance to control the inside...
It’s seems Ken inexplicably forgot who Cooper is. Ken knew where Cooper lined up. Ken had a gap, and had a chance to control the inside, but didn’t.
He could have chopped Cooper’s line early, but rolled out the red carpet instead.
In fact, watching the highlight reel, Ken was in position to fight for the inside and the lead.
I bet Tomac would have tried to pinch KR off too if Webb didn't do it first.

When you hold the 'wide' line you are at the mercy of the inside guy(s).
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Sully22 3/7/2021 8:31am
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Basically Ken is upset about Copper NOT making contact with him... and by doing so on Live TV after the race he also let Cooper know he's in his head. Great strategy
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JT Moto 3/7/2021 8:39am
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Sully22 wrote:
Basically Ken is upset about Copper NOT making contact with him... and by doing so on Live TV after the race he also let Cooper know...
Basically Ken is upset about Copper NOT making contact with him... and by doing so on Live TV after the race he also let Cooper know he's in his head. Great strategy
I see every dumb cunt on vital has their new cool guy line. “in his head, or rent free”. Why does everything have to be divisive? We got great racing and a championship battle. Good stuff.
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Sully22 3/7/2021 8:47am
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Sully22 wrote:
Basically Ken is upset about Copper NOT making contact with him... and by doing so on Live TV after the race he also let Cooper know...
Basically Ken is upset about Copper NOT making contact with him... and by doing so on Live TV after the race he also let Cooper know he's in his head. Great strategy
JT Moto wrote:
I see every dumb cunt on vital has their new cool guy line. “in his head, or rent free”. Why does everything have to be divisive...
I see every dumb cunt on vital has their new cool guy line. “in his head, or rent free”. Why does everything have to be divisive? We got great racing and a championship battle. Good stuff.
lol, this is a mental sport, is it smart/ a good look to complain about your main competition after the race in front of everyone when that same competitor has got the best of you more times than not? especially when he didn't touch you, he ran you wide in the first/second turn...
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Mit12 3/7/2021 8:54am
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The real reason Roczen is whining has nothing to do with Webbs move at Daytona it has everything to do with the fact that he has given up 13 points to Webb in 3 races.
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Thisusernameisavailable 3/7/2021 9:00am
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LKHill wrote:
I am OK with it. That's racing as they say. They also say payback is hell. On the surface it looks all good. On the flip...
I am OK with it. That's racing as they say. They also say payback is hell. On the surface it looks all good. On the flip side I am not sure he should have awakened the sleeping dog in KRoc.

One thing is for sure, as they say time will tell, lol.


For all the Webb nut huggers what do you think about Webb just taking the inside and coming away with the lead, lol? How smart would that have been? Even if he would have come out in second he surely could have dominated Kenny and took the win, right? Seems to me he threw away a win, no?
Too early in the race to call it- if he pulled this move on the last lap then sure, dick move to cost the win, but with 25 minutes to go, its anyone's race at that point. Its not like he sacrificed his good start for being way back in the pack, he came round the third corner in a great position to start his race.
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LKHill wrote:
I am OK with it. That's racing as they say. They also say payback is hell. On the surface it looks all good. On the flip...
I am OK with it. That's racing as they say. They also say payback is hell. On the surface it looks all good. On the flip side I am not sure he should have awakened the sleeping dog in KRoc.

One thing is for sure, as they say time will tell, lol.


For all the Webb nut huggers what do you think about Webb just taking the inside and coming away with the lead, lol? How smart would that have been? Even if he would have come out in second he surely could have dominated Kenny and took the win, right? Seems to me he threw away a win, no?
I agree,Webb was not trying to take first position but to push Roczen to the outside.Great move but ...........
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ShawdowGlen 3/7/2021 9:52am
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ATKpilot99 wrote:
[embed][/embed] Payback for what ? There's a clear view of it in this highlight video. It was nothing. Just a very nice move.


Payback for what ? There's a clear view of it in this highlight video. It was nothing. Just a very nice move.
Bingo!
I'll say this, Coop could have taken the lead ahead of Tomac there...but Daytona is Tomacs house and Coop knew Tomac would have gotten him. Tomac is not a threat to him at this point in the series. Instead he focused on putting Ken back as far as he could....and cleanly at that. This is pure chess at a Kasparov level.



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ctbale 3/7/2021 10:00am
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I was thinking of starting a poll.

What is Kenny thinkin today?


A. Morning after regrets about non podium interview, solid pass by Webb
B. Still think Webb's pass was a cheap shot because Webb knows Kenny is faster.

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ShawdowGlen 3/7/2021 10:04am
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ctbale wrote:
I was thinking of starting a poll. What is Kenny thinkin today? A. Morning after regrets about non podium interview, solid pass by Webb B. Still...
I was thinking of starting a poll.

What is Kenny thinkin today?


A. Morning after regrets about non podium interview, solid pass by Webb
B. Still think Webb's pass was a cheap shot because Webb knows Kenny is faster.

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A

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We've all done it to our friends on MX vs ATV
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HerlingsFTW 3/7/2021 10:17am
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Imagine how hard Cooper, the whole KTM team and Roczens exgirl are laughing every time Roczen gets owned and cries like a baby after the race
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DirtDart 3/7/2021 1:11pm
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gregyou wrote:
Didn’t web do soemthing similar to tomac at salt lake and nearly took his front wheel out
Didn’t he run Barciawide too?
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LKHill 3/7/2021 1:37pm
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toroP wrote:
It’s seems Ken inexplicably forgot who Cooper is. Ken knew where Cooper lined up. Ken had a gap, and had a chance to control the inside...
It’s seems Ken inexplicably forgot who Cooper is. Ken knew where Cooper lined up. Ken had a gap, and had a chance to control the inside, but didn’t.
He could have chopped Cooper’s line early, but rolled out the red carpet instead.
In fact, watching the highlight reel, Ken was in position to fight for the inside and the lead.
kpiper wrote:
I bet Tomac would have tried to pinch KR off too if Webb didn't do it first. When you hold the 'wide' line you are at...
I bet Tomac would have tried to pinch KR off too if Webb didn't do it first.

When you hold the 'wide' line you are at the mercy of the inside guy(s).
I have never seen Tomac take somebody that wide in the first corner. Actually I think Kenny wanted to turn in but Webb had the position and went strait. Kenny didn't roll out shit dude. Watch again.
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downard254 3/7/2021 2:11pm
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toroP wrote:
It’s seems Ken inexplicably forgot who Cooper is. Ken knew where Cooper lined up. Ken had a gap, and had a chance to control the inside...
It’s seems Ken inexplicably forgot who Cooper is. Ken knew where Cooper lined up. Ken had a gap, and had a chance to control the inside, but didn’t.
He could have chopped Cooper’s line early, but rolled out the red carpet instead.
In fact, watching the highlight reel, Ken was in position to fight for the inside and the lead.
kpiper wrote:
I bet Tomac would have tried to pinch KR off too if Webb didn't do it first. When you hold the 'wide' line you are at...
I bet Tomac would have tried to pinch KR off too if Webb didn't do it first.

When you hold the 'wide' line you are at the mercy of the inside guy(s).
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I have never seen Tomac take somebody that wide in the first corner. Actually I think Kenny wanted to turn in but Webb had the position...
I have never seen Tomac take somebody that wide in the first corner. Actually I think Kenny wanted to turn in but Webb had the position and went strait. Kenny didn't roll out shit dude. Watch again.
I think you missed the end of Vegas 2017.

Edit: OK, just noticed you mentioned first turn, but that move is still not above him.
UpTiTe 3/7/2021 2:12pm
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If you’re a Webb fan it’s brilliant, if you’re a Roczen fan, it’s cheap.

I would have done it if I was Webb, and if I was Roczen or Eli I’d of punted him long ago.
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