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The Factory edition is probably a better bike overall though. If you was racing I’d say KTM, it’s smooth and stable, incredible brakes, feels very light. I did put a vortex on it because I didn’t care for stock mapping. It’s good at any track I take it to.
If your just a practice track rider then either bike is perfect, the Honda is a little more fun to ride but will wear you out a little faster. Also, if you ride a lot of tight tracks then Honda would be better or if you ride fast high speed tracks I’d lean toward the ktm.
It’s literally a toss up, can’t go wrong with either. Only thing I’d suggest, if you do a ktm, get it mapped or a vortex and remove the incredibly restricted exhaust insert, it nearly closes off the baffle completely and blows the packing out fast. And the bike is still pretty quiet with it out because there is still another screen in the center of the muffler.
If you get a CRF, get a rekluse torque drive clutch pack, correct spring rates if you’re heavier or lighter then oem target range and sag 106-107, maybe slide forks down 3mm or flush tube with the clamp and you’ll love it
For that matter, if you have not ridden one or both of the current model of either bike, is your opinion here really valid? Both bikes have changed significantly from last years models.
Downvote me all you want but you know I’m right...
Your 2010 Honda isn’t a 21 FE KTM. And a 13 FE KTM isn’t a 21 WE.
I paid someone to ride their FE, and did a bike swap with a WE. I would bet 90% of people in this thread, haven’t ridden either.
To say any one brand is garbage is ridiculous.
Every rider is a different shape, size and skill level. Max Anstie was getting top fives and holeshots in the nationals on the lowest rated bike.
I’ve ridden all of the 2021 Austrian brands, and bought the KTM, but I’m sure I’d be just as happy on any of the other bikes.
To sum up my opinion without going into a ton of detail the Honda is more of a young guy bike, the KTM is a Cadillac. Honda more accurate, KTM more forgiving. Honda engine more zippy, KTM more grunty, both making plenty of power.
Value wise comparing standard bikes to the FE or WE, simple math says the FE price difference is more reasonable. Hope this helps and good luck with your choice, let us “tards” know what you pick.
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I chose what I chose because i felt it'd fit me best and give me a mental comfort, which is key for me to be anywhere near competitive. Half this stuff is a mind game. In reality, id probably ride every one of them about the same speed, but in the brain it's stuck on a certain color.. I paid for one what ida paid for the other, so that's a moot point in my case. There is none of this "ktm (or crf) is best period" stuff.. I can pick flaws on both, which are nearly all opinion based anyway.. hear complaining about hondas mapping yet I just read a ktm guy up there say he had to remap his ktm to get it to his liking.
I just can't wait to fn ride.
The "Honda-Folk" are VERY excitied about this new bike...especially the coveted WE. If a guy took good care and put 10 hours on it...I'm quite confident you could put the darn thing on eBay & make a profit.
If it were me...? (And if the parts are even avail)
I'd get some other plastic to run for those 10 hours (Shrouds and Side-Panels at the very least. Just checked UFO and they show that they have them).
That being said both bikes are great and you can't go wrong on either. Trust your gut IMO.
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