Deegan cutting the track in the supermini 1 moto 2 at the mini o's.

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dadofagun 12/4/2020 7:15pm
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It's OVER. DONE. 11 pages of a kid that is scary fast, rich, has everything needed at his disposal to be the next great thing...... Did he get a penalty? Guess not.... Life goes on, onto the next. Right, or wrong, The AMA has the enforcement of a 1st grade teacher....Their record proves that, for whatever reasons. Let this matter, thread, and all other things related just go by the wayside..... Our sport we love has far bigger problems. Cuss me all you want, but remember... If you dislike the kid/family, and their actions, keep talking about them.... keeps them relevant. Just what they always wanted..... more attention.

Side note.... Casey sure looked good on that Gas Gas privateer effort didn't he?

Probably going to be cussed after all this, but it's cool..... Just an old Moto guy. Merry Christmas to all
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dadofagun wrote:
It's OVER. DONE. 11 pages of a kid that is scary fast, rich, has everything needed at his disposal to be the next great thing...... Did...
It's OVER. DONE. 11 pages of a kid that is scary fast, rich, has everything needed at his disposal to be the next great thing...... Did he get a penalty? Guess not.... Life goes on, onto the next. Right, or wrong, The AMA has the enforcement of a 1st grade teacher....Their record proves that, for whatever reasons. Let this matter, thread, and all other things related just go by the wayside..... Our sport we love has far bigger problems. Cuss me all you want, but remember... If you dislike the kid/family, and their actions, keep talking about them.... keeps them relevant. Just what they always wanted..... more attention.

Side note.... Casey sure looked good on that Gas Gas privateer effort didn't he?

Probably going to be cussed after all this, but it's cool..... Just an old Moto guy. Merry Christmas to all
I dont think he's a full Privateer. Im sure he gets free bikes and his Gas Gas has all the goodies in it. Id say more ofva GAS GAS Supported Amatuer.
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dadofagun 12/4/2020 7:30pm
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dadofagun wrote:
It's OVER. DONE. 11 pages of a kid that is scary fast, rich, has everything needed at his disposal to be the next great thing...... Did...
It's OVER. DONE. 11 pages of a kid that is scary fast, rich, has everything needed at his disposal to be the next great thing...... Did he get a penalty? Guess not.... Life goes on, onto the next. Right, or wrong, The AMA has the enforcement of a 1st grade teacher....Their record proves that, for whatever reasons. Let this matter, thread, and all other things related just go by the wayside..... Our sport we love has far bigger problems. Cuss me all you want, but remember... If you dislike the kid/family, and their actions, keep talking about them.... keeps them relevant. Just what they always wanted..... more attention.

Side note.... Casey sure looked good on that Gas Gas privateer effort didn't he?

Probably going to be cussed after all this, but it's cool..... Just an old Moto guy. Merry Christmas to all
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I dont think he's a full Privateer. Im sure he gets free bikes and his Gas Gas has all the goodies in it. Id say more...
I dont think he's a full Privateer. Im sure he gets free bikes and his Gas Gas has all the goodies in it. Id say more ofva GAS GAS Supported Amatuer.
Truly think his bikes were decked, and he has for certain earned whatever support he has. But I did not see ANY Gas Gas logo's on his Fox gear.... Nor, Did he thank them. I think he said WMR for the bikes? If that is true, they were VERY wise to help this kid out. He reminds me of a young RV, a real fighter.
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numbers 12/4/2020 7:34pm
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dadofagun wrote:
It's OVER. DONE. 11 pages of a kid that is scary fast, rich, has everything needed at his disposal to be the next great thing...... Did...
It's OVER. DONE. 11 pages of a kid that is scary fast, rich, has everything needed at his disposal to be the next great thing...... Did he get a penalty? Guess not.... Life goes on, onto the next. Right, or wrong, The AMA has the enforcement of a 1st grade teacher....Their record proves that, for whatever reasons. Let this matter, thread, and all other things related just go by the wayside..... Our sport we love has far bigger problems. Cuss me all you want, but remember... If you dislike the kid/family, and their actions, keep talking about them.... keeps them relevant. Just what they always wanted..... more attention.

Side note.... Casey sure looked good on that Gas Gas privateer effort didn't he?

Probably going to be cussed after all this, but it's cool..... Just an old Moto guy. Merry Christmas to all
numbers wrote:
I dont think he's a full Privateer. Im sure he gets free bikes and his Gas Gas has all the goodies in it. Id say more...
I dont think he's a full Privateer. Im sure he gets free bikes and his Gas Gas has all the goodies in it. Id say more ofva GAS GAS Supported Amatuer.
dadofagun wrote:
Truly think his bikes were decked, and he has for certain earned whatever support he has. But I did not see ANY Gas Gas logo's on...
Truly think his bikes were decked, and he has for certain earned whatever support he has. But I did not see ANY Gas Gas logo's on his Fox gear.... Nor, Did he thank them. I think he said WMR for the bikes? If that is true, they were VERY wise to help this kid out. He reminds me of a young RV, a real fighter.
I think the kids great and can't wait to see more of these big races. With his smaller size unless he grows like Adam did it'll help him on the lites bikes.

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DrinkMoreWater 12/4/2020 7:43pm
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The kid won 2 125 races and 2 super mini races, I don't think he needs to cheat to win, I highly doubt he cut the track purposely, he did seem to back off the power... Did he back off enough ? but that's open for interpretation.

I don't think he's losing any sleep over this, he's proven himself multiple times in multiple classes on the same track.

People are jealous that he has the world given to him on a silver spoon money and support wise, most rich kids lack the hard grit the will to win due to their lack of struggles in life. this isn't F1 where money can buy you wins our sport is one of the rawest form of racing that talent is showcased not just how many dollars you have in the machine.

Difference with Deegan he has put in the world and rides like his life depends on it, no one can take that away from him unless you're a jealous hater, those traits are extremely hard to teach.. Brian has done a great job raising him.

Be happy he's in the sport because in 2-4 years we are going to see a massive crop of talent battling soon, I really do believe it will be like the STewart, Reed and carmichael days.
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DrinkMoreWater wrote:
The kid won 2 125 races and 2 super mini races, I don't think he needs to cheat to win, I highly doubt he cut the...
The kid won 2 125 races and 2 super mini races, I don't think he needs to cheat to win, I highly doubt he cut the track purposely, he did seem to back off the power... Did he back off enough ? but that's open for interpretation.

I don't think he's losing any sleep over this, he's proven himself multiple times in multiple classes on the same track.

People are jealous that he has the world given to him on a silver spoon money and support wise, most rich kids lack the hard grit the will to win due to their lack of struggles in life. this isn't F1 where money can buy you wins our sport is one of the rawest form of racing that talent is showcased not just how many dollars you have in the machine.

Difference with Deegan he has put in the world and rides like his life depends on it, no one can take that away from him unless you're a jealous hater, those traits are extremely hard to teach.. Brian has done a great job raising him.

Be happy he's in the sport because in 2-4 years we are going to see a massive crop of talent battling soon, I really do believe it will be like the STewart, Reed and carmichael days.
You had me at KID 🤣
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Average Vitard 12/5/2020 1:10am
12/5/2020 1:10am
dadofagun wrote:
It's OVER. DONE. 11 pages of a kid that is scary fast, rich, has everything needed at his disposal to be the next great thing...... Did...
It's OVER. DONE. 11 pages of a kid that is scary fast, rich, has everything needed at his disposal to be the next great thing...... Did he get a penalty? Guess not.... Life goes on, onto the next. Right, or wrong, The AMA has the enforcement of a 1st grade teacher....Their record proves that, for whatever reasons. Let this matter, thread, and all other things related just go by the wayside..... Our sport we love has far bigger problems. Cuss me all you want, but remember... If you dislike the kid/family, and their actions, keep talking about them.... keeps them relevant. Just what they always wanted..... more attention.

Side note.... Casey sure looked good on that Gas Gas privateer effort didn't he?

Probably going to be cussed after all this, but it's cool..... Just an old Moto guy. Merry Christmas to all
numbers wrote:
I dont think he's a full Privateer. Im sure he gets free bikes and his Gas Gas has all the goodies in it. Id say more...
I dont think he's a full Privateer. Im sure he gets free bikes and his Gas Gas has all the goodies in it. Id say more ofva GAS GAS Supported Amatuer.
dadofagun wrote:
Truly think his bikes were decked, and he has for certain earned whatever support he has. But I did not see ANY Gas Gas logo's on...
Truly think his bikes were decked, and he has for certain earned whatever support he has. But I did not see ANY Gas Gas logo's on his Fox gear.... Nor, Did he thank them. I think he said WMR for the bikes? If that is true, they were VERY wise to help this kid out. He reminds me of a young RV, a real fighter.
He said in his interview that he buys the bikes but a local dealership does help him out.
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Finnish_Flash_62 12/5/2020 2:01am
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numbers wrote:
I dont think he's a full Privateer. Im sure he gets free bikes and his Gas Gas has all the goodies in it. Id say more...
I dont think he's a full Privateer. Im sure he gets free bikes and his Gas Gas has all the goodies in it. Id say more ofva GAS GAS Supported Amatuer.
dadofagun wrote:
Truly think his bikes were decked, and he has for certain earned whatever support he has. But I did not see ANY Gas Gas logo's on...
Truly think his bikes were decked, and he has for certain earned whatever support he has. But I did not see ANY Gas Gas logo's on his Fox gear.... Nor, Did he thank them. I think he said WMR for the bikes? If that is true, they were VERY wise to help this kid out. He reminds me of a young RV, a real fighter.
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He said in his interview that he buys the bikes but a local dealership does help him out.
Bet he doesn’t need to buy them anymore after those performances.

I’m taking the down votes from the Zuuk crowd (again), but good for him to get of that ancient reptile of a bike. Those different coloured Austrian bikes are miles ahead of those old Suzuki’s he used to ride. His results and dropping of the Suzuki program to go get bikes from a dealer should tell you enough.
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BigMunster 12/5/2020 2:20am
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I'd like to apologize to all in this thread for showing up so late. I could have solved this for everyone much sooner. I showed the...
I'd like to apologize to all in this thread for showing up so late. I could have solved this for everyone much sooner. I showed the video to my wife. She said the rider who cut to the inside of the turn cheated. She is always fucking right.....always! So there it is, problem solved. You're welcome.
And Thank your wife.... smart chick
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KTMmarkus 12/15/2020 6:05am
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One could hope this would end this discussion but knowing you americans probably not...

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yak651 12/15/2020 7:00am
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KTMmarkus wrote:
One could hope this would end this discussion but knowing you americans probably not...

Ha ha, they are just rubbing it in now with that video. Amazing the rider behind danger boy on that start was able to keep going on the track without cutting, he must be more skilled Laughing Laughing
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slipdog 12/15/2020 7:24am
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KTMmarkus wrote:
One could hope this would end this discussion but knowing you americans probably not...

Hahaha, Brian was fucking hilariously spot on...
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davistld01 12/15/2020 7:46am
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This kid comes from such a privileged and hyper-competitive upbringing that he was probably congratulated for the move rather than corrected, as the AMA obviously didn't see it as being wrong. I hope Brian is better at teaching his kids how to take the higher road than just that to do anything it takes to win...or this kid is going to make some enemies, and learn some hard lessons as his career progresses.

My 2-cents...
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EngIceDave 12/15/2020 7:56am
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Coach Grayck?

Gavin?
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LKHill 12/15/2020 8:01am
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This whole thing left a bad taste in my mouth. This latest video takes the cake.

Bragging about the win and then going into a rant about the haters that hate on him because of his money frosted me. Yo Deegan, your kid lost. Do you really think this would have stood at a pro race? You don't need to brag about it.
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EngIceDave 12/15/2020 8:11am
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At the start?
Yes, it would've stood in pro races, happens all the time
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4DAIVIPAI2K5 12/15/2020 8:15am
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EngIceDave wrote:
Coach Grayck?

Gavin?
Gavin used to do some training with him while at bennicks house.
Gavin just got back into riding again, not sure if he is back to training again.
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Mxracer607 12/15/2020 8:18am
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There new video proves the exact point that he did not cut the track. The video is on a GoPro so you can hear his bike he completely let of and dodged the camera guy.
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LKHill 12/15/2020 8:18am
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EngIceDave wrote:
At the start?
Yes, it would've stood in pro races, happens all the time
Funny I have been watching pro races for over 40 years and never once did I see somebody cut the first corner and be awarded the moto win.

Surely you can point to an example seeing it happens all the time.
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88FYNN88 12/15/2020 8:20am
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davistld01 wrote:
This kid comes from such a privileged and hyper-competitive upbringing that he was probably congratulated for the move rather than corrected, as the AMA obviously didn't...
This kid comes from such a privileged and hyper-competitive upbringing that he was probably congratulated for the move rather than corrected, as the AMA obviously didn't see it as being wrong. I hope Brian is better at teaching his kids how to take the higher road than just that to do anything it takes to win...or this kid is going to make some enemies, and learn some hard lessons as his career progresses.

My 2-cents...
Brian said in the video if he caught him doing it on purpose he was going to pull him out of the races. Seems like Brian was not going to put up with that. In the video, you can hear him let off and just coast through the corner. Yes, he probably should have tried to cut back in sooner but he would have had to go through the flags and that is dangerous to do and if he crashed there he was taking down most of the field. The last thing you need is flags stuck in your wheel.

The pass on CC66 was racing. It happens every race in the pros, if you leave the door open someone is going to come bashing through. Deegan left the door open in SX and CC66 pushed him out of the way and took the win and Deegan did the same in MX.
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LKHill 12/15/2020 8:33am
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There new video proves the exact point that he did not cut the track. The video is on a GoPro so you can hear his bike...
There new video proves the exact point that he did not cut the track. The video is on a GoPro so you can hear his bike he completely let of and dodged the camera guy.
Are you blind? Who is claiming he never chopped the throttle. That is not the criteria for infraction. That would be weather he gained an advantage or not. He was waving bye, bye to Cassey and said hell I am going to try this. You are reaching to see it any other way. It seems they let it fly because there was no intent to cut the track before he lost control.

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mxwells216 12/15/2020 8:35am
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I guess they where wrong. He gained an advantage by doing so. He backed off after he accelerated. lol. Nothing was done because it was a...
I guess they where wrong. He gained an advantage by doing so. He backed off after he accelerated. lol.

Nothing was done because it was a KTM win/win.
True...you literally get bumped off track on the start and....................you end up getting a 3rd place start. He should have been 6th-15th
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Moto520 12/15/2020 8:36am
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Deegan seems like a great dad! Very supportive. Good to see an old school moto guy like Deegan sticking around the sport. He seems like he loves it like i love it!
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rallendude 12/15/2020 8:42am
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After all these pages of discussion, PLUS the video ON THE BIKE, it comes down to two differing views. Racers and non-racers. And just having put on gear and lining up on a gate doesn't mean you're a racer.
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Brian Deegan's inside voice as he pulls out of the pits at Gatorback.



https://youtu.be/c7AL44keDZw

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LKHill 12/15/2020 8:57am
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True...you literally get bumped off track on the start and....................you end up getting a 3rd place start. He should have been 6th-15th
That is mostly correct but he did not get bumped. He lost control on his own.
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mxwells216 wrote:
True...you literally get bumped off track on the start and....................you end up getting a 3rd place start. He should have been 6th-15th
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That is mostly correct but he did not get bumped. He lost control on his own.
Actually he hit a rock....if you've ever hit a large rock on the start you would understand....
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gt80rider 12/15/2020 9:02am
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why is this thread still going??

11 pages... Danger Boy is the new J-Law??? and he hasn't even rolled a rental car yet... LOL... just shows Brian is doing his media/marketing better than Anybody else right now...
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EngIceDave wrote:
At the start?
Yes, it would've stood in pro races, happens all the time
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Funny I have been watching pro races for over 40 years and never once did I see somebody cut the first corner and be awarded the...
Funny I have been watching pro races for over 40 years and never once did I see somebody cut the first corner and be awarded the moto win.

Surely you can point to an example seeing it happens all the time.
Just on top of my mind, Millville almost each year, there is someone going outside the track, then rejoigning asap.

Not that I agree with Deagan's start, but going on a witch hunt on a 14 years old rider is not something i would have imagined here.
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There new video proves the exact point that he did not cut the track. The video is on a GoPro so you can hear his bike...
There new video proves the exact point that he did not cut the track. The video is on a GoPro so you can hear his bike he completely let of and dodged the camera guy.
Stop bringing facts Wink What happened is that hard pack is faster than a deep soil.

In all cases, I think he should have been docked, but it is not such a drama as some like to make up, blabla comes from money, blabla education, blabla not enough talent to make it pro blabla. Lots of jealousy actually. If people watch the vlog, you can see they have their heads straight.
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