Barcia to Gas Gas?

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deluxeman 8/21/2020 12:00pm
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I hope they don't sign Barcia. He can be fast, but is not very consistent in his finishing positions. He may be the best available option...
I hope they don't sign Barcia. He can be fast, but is not very consistent in his finishing positions. He may be the best available option to get some results right now, I just would rather see Savagty in that spot, he isn't any more consistent but a healthy Savagty is faster than Barcia most days.
Maybe they sign them both, who knows.

So what happens to Forrest Butlers team? Are they staying a KTM satellite team? I thought they would be a shoe in for the Gas Gas deal.
aeffertz wrote:
What happened last weekend?
He had a good weekend. He is capable of running up front, he just doesn't do it every race. Some days he is crazy good other days he is nowhere. Then he has his little hissy fits and tries to bully people, then when the confront him he cries and whines about how they are picking on him and he did nothing wrong. Over it, I like physical racing, it's fun to watch. But if you put a guy in the cheap seats you better man up when they come after you.
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Factory bike is pure KTM factory machine. Production is a ktm watered down. No hydraulic clutch, no brembo brakes. Something to that nature. A more affordable Ktm.
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Zycki11 8/21/2020 12:02pm
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deluxeman wrote:
I hope they don't sign Barcia. He can be fast, but is not very consistent in his finishing positions. He may be the best available option...
I hope they don't sign Barcia. He can be fast, but is not very consistent in his finishing positions. He may be the best available option to get some results right now, I just would rather see Savagty in that spot, he isn't any more consistent but a healthy Savagty is faster than Barcia most days.
Maybe they sign them both, who knows.

So what happens to Forrest Butlers team? Are they staying a KTM satellite team? I thought they would be a shoe in for the Gas Gas deal.
Your high as a kite
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deluxeman wrote:
I hope they don't sign Barcia. He can be fast, but is not very consistent in his finishing positions. He may be the best available option...
I hope they don't sign Barcia. He can be fast, but is not very consistent in his finishing positions. He may be the best available option to get some results right now, I just would rather see Savagty in that spot, he isn't any more consistent but a healthy Savagty is faster than Barcia most days.
Maybe they sign them both, who knows.

So what happens to Forrest Butlers team? Are they staying a KTM satellite team? I thought they would be a shoe in for the Gas Gas deal.
Zycki11 wrote:
Your high as a kite
Barcia doesn't get much respect on here. He's got multiple 450 wins and 2 250SX titles. None of which Savatgy has.

I hope we can get a healthy Bam Bam on a red KTM for 2 seasons. Then we'll see if the "blue pig" has been the problem. I'm not sure it's the bike with Barcia, because he was complaining a lot about his factory Honda in 2014 too. But the KTM package seems to be universally liked at the top level when riders make the move onto it, so we shall see if Barcia can step up on one.
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Zycki11 wrote:
Factory bike is pure KTM factory machine. Production is a ktm watered down. No hydraulic clutch, no brembo brakes. Something to that nature. A more affordable...
Factory bike is pure KTM factory machine. Production is a ktm watered down. No hydraulic clutch, no brembo brakes. Something to that nature. A more affordable Ktm.
KTMs have had hydraulic clutches since 1998 . I find it hard to believe they wouldn't include it on the GasGas .
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ATKpilot99 wrote:
KTMs have had hydraulic clutches since 1998 . I find it hard to believe they wouldn't include it on the GasGas .
Hence GasGas
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ATKpilot99 wrote:
KTMs have had hydraulic clutches since 1998 . I find it hard to believe they wouldn't include it on the GasGas .
Zycki11 wrote:
Hence GasGas
Hence red KTM . Post up the specs . I'll bet it has a juice clutch.
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ATKpilot99 wrote:
Hence red KTM . Post up the specs . I'll bet it has a juice clutch.
Jimminy cricket. Yes it’s a ktm, but it will be a cheaper version with less goodies. 🙈
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Zycki11 wrote:
Factory bike is pure KTM factory machine. Production is a ktm watered down. No hydraulic clutch, no brembo brakes. Something to that nature. A more affordable...
Factory bike is pure KTM factory machine. Production is a ktm watered down. No hydraulic clutch, no brembo brakes. Something to that nature. A more affordable Ktm.
Not to derail the thread but I would 100% shocked to see it come without a Hydraulic clutch. Hasn't KTM been using that for like 25 years now?
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Zycki11 wrote:
Factory bike is pure KTM factory machine. Production is a ktm watered down. No hydraulic clutch, no brembo brakes. Something to that nature. A more affordable...
Factory bike is pure KTM factory machine. Production is a ktm watered down. No hydraulic clutch, no brembo brakes. Something to that nature. A more affordable Ktm.
LungButter wrote:
Not to derail the thread but I would 100% shocked to see it come without a Hydraulic clutch. Hasn't KTM been using that for like 25...
Not to derail the thread but I would 100% shocked to see it come without a Hydraulic clutch. Hasn't KTM been using that for like 25 years now?
Yes. Magura hydro clutch and brakes rather than brembo for cost saving. I'd be shocked also . About as shocked as if they went back to a carburetor.
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Zycki11 wrote:
Factory bike is pure KTM factory machine. Production is a ktm watered down. No hydraulic clutch, no brembo brakes. Something to that nature. A more affordable...
Factory bike is pure KTM factory machine. Production is a ktm watered down. No hydraulic clutch, no brembo brakes. Something to that nature. A more affordable Ktm.
LungButter wrote:
Not to derail the thread but I would 100% shocked to see it come without a Hydraulic clutch. Hasn't KTM been using that for like 25...
Not to derail the thread but I would 100% shocked to see it come without a Hydraulic clutch. Hasn't KTM been using that for like 25 years now?
ATKpilot99 wrote:
Yes. Magura hydro clutch and brakes rather than brembo for cost saving. I'd be shocked also . About as shocked as if they went back to...
Yes. Magura hydro clutch and brakes rather than brembo for cost saving. I'd be shocked also . About as shocked as if they went back to a carburetor.
It would cost ktm more money to source outside parts rather than just using what they have in storage lol, nobody in their right mind would think that they would ditch the hydro clutch for a wire when their entire engine is built around it? Are they putting a kickstarter instead of e-start aswell? Laughing
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That valve train is gonna need a cigarette after a moto with Barcia aboard.
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Hcallz5 wrote:
That valve train is gonna need a cigarette after a moto with Barcia aboard.
LMAO!! The tachometer will need a lap counter too!
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Ive heard a rumour that Mookies outdoor results even from Rnd 1 don’t go in his favour.
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LungButter wrote:
Not to derail the thread but I would 100% shocked to see it come without a Hydraulic clutch. Hasn't KTM been using that for like 25...
Not to derail the thread but I would 100% shocked to see it come without a Hydraulic clutch. Hasn't KTM been using that for like 25 years now?
ATKpilot99 wrote:
Yes. Magura hydro clutch and brakes rather than brembo for cost saving. I'd be shocked also . About as shocked as if they went back to...
Yes. Magura hydro clutch and brakes rather than brembo for cost saving. I'd be shocked also . About as shocked as if they went back to a carburetor.
Lastander wrote:
It would cost ktm more money to source outside parts rather than just using what they have in storage lol, nobody in their right mind would...
It would cost ktm more money to source outside parts rather than just using what they have in storage lol, nobody in their right mind would think that they would ditch the hydro clutch for a wire when their entire engine is built around it? Are they putting a kickstarter instead of e-start aswell? Laughing
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Zycki11 wrote:
Factory bike is pure KTM factory machine. Production is a ktm watered down. No hydraulic clutch, no brembo brakes. Something to that nature. A more affordable...
Factory bike is pure KTM factory machine. Production is a ktm watered down. No hydraulic clutch, no brembo brakes. Something to that nature. A more affordable Ktm.
LungButter wrote:
Not to derail the thread but I would 100% shocked to see it come without a Hydraulic clutch. Hasn't KTM been using that for like 25...
Not to derail the thread but I would 100% shocked to see it come without a Hydraulic clutch. Hasn't KTM been using that for like 25 years now?
ATKpilot99 wrote:
Yes. Magura hydro clutch and brakes rather than brembo for cost saving. I'd be shocked also . About as shocked as if they went back to...
Yes. Magura hydro clutch and brakes rather than brembo for cost saving. I'd be shocked also . About as shocked as if they went back to a carburetor.
The Magura is way more expensive lol
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Hope it was a 1 yr dealio.... Lol.. otherwise hello 8-15th place ...
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thatswhathappens 8/21/2020 4:34pm
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Bam Bam on the red Red Bull Bullfrog Spas Gas Gas?
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cable 8/21/2020 4:39pm
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jesus, how long before the whole main event is KTM rebranded bikes? I guess i dont really care but they obviously have a plan.
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gjbruny 8/21/2020 4:47pm
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Been saying it for years.... if there was ever a poster child for the 350 its barcia. For the love of god put that kid on a 350!
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Mega Racing 8/21/2020 5:32pm
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Been saying it for years.... if there was ever a poster child for the 350 its barcia. For the love of god put that kid on...
Been saying it for years.... if there was ever a poster child for the 350 its barcia. For the love of god put that kid on a 350!
Yes lets do it! Barcias rev the balls clean off it style would suit the 350 perfect. Cant see it ever happen tho. He talked about moving to England when he retires. Id love to see him ride a 350 in the British championship for a season ✊🏻
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cable wrote:
jesus, how long before the whole main event is KTM rebranded bikes? I guess i dont really care but they obviously have a plan.
Maybe their plan is to cover so much of the market then flip the switch and bring back professional 2 stroke racing in Supercross and motocross.
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cable wrote:
jesus, how long before the whole main event is KTM rebranded bikes? I guess i dont really care but they obviously have a plan.
AJ565 wrote:
Maybe their plan is to cover so much of the market then flip the switch and bring back professional 2 stroke racing in Supercross and motocross...
Maybe their plan is to cover so much of the market then flip the switch and bring back professional 2 stroke racing in Supercross and motocross.
We can only hope
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yurcho44 wrote:
Be cool to see Malcom on GasGas.
agn5009 wrote:
Everyone thinks it would be cool to see malcolm on every bike and team ever made.
Sr_Vet_Rider wrote:
Blue bike ? Wink
Yep
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Chris_Buehler 8/21/2020 7:19pm
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deluxeman wrote:
I hope they don't sign Barcia. He can be fast, but is not very consistent in his finishing positions. He may be the best available option...
I hope they don't sign Barcia. He can be fast, but is not very consistent in his finishing positions. He may be the best available option to get some results right now, I just would rather see Savagty in that spot, he isn't any more consistent but a healthy Savagty is faster than Barcia most days.
Maybe they sign them both, who knows.

So what happens to Forrest Butlers team? Are they staying a KTM satellite team? I thought they would be a shoe in for the Gas Gas deal.
aeffertz wrote:
What happened last weekend?
Ya and when did Savatgy get faster than Barcia?
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secretwrench wrote:
TLD GasGas 1- 450 rider 2- 250 riders
I could see Bagget on the 450
Cool Cool
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Someone call Reed to manage it - could be real valuable TESTING them and getting improvements out of them - and good mentor for the racers.
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snowy816 wrote:
Someone call Reed to manage it - could be real valuable TESTING them and getting improvements out of them - and good mentor for the racers.
Yeah.... reed is not the mentor type or necessarily a good tester for anyone but himself. He’s a bike setup head case
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vitalriderCrf 8/21/2020 8:30pm
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Can anyone Elaborate on why RedBull didn’t want him?
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Radical 8/21/2020 8:46pm
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Barcia passed a LOT of riders in both motos, especially moto 2.
He went from 14th to 3rd in the first moto.
In the second moto he went from a first turn crash to 8th in 3 laps.
I'm expecting a great season from him this year.
He should stay where he's at. It's working.
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