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The fast Novices are usually pretty decent midpack intermediates, as there is a lot of overlap.
One time back when I was a 125 intermediate, I was the only guy in my class so they ran me with the novices. I led for a large chunk of the race, but it was clear I was holding back two of the novices, who were in a titanic battle for the win. I waved them by and let them go at it.
125s could save the sport, in the 90s we had 50 bike gates at Texas motoplex near Houston. Now people need 50 different classes with 4 bike gates since some of these bikes come stock with 63hp
I get that there are people that ride dirt bikes that don’t really want to be all about racing, and roll up to be a hardcore racer and put everything into what it takes to progress to be an A rider.
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If you are heading up to local races at OPMC, the competition won't be as tough.
Some of the bigger series like PAC West and P.R.O. have a lot of entries and that's where you'll see the faster B riders in our area.
If you can already run up front in the C class without riding beyond your skill level, move up and learn the pace.
To be competitive in B, you need to be able to go fast anywhere on the track, not just in one preferred line.
It's harder to do when you're young, or if you have a busy work schedule, but ride as many different tracks as you can.
Find the areas on each track that are toughest for you and try to make them your strengths.
65 people in my class. C class was 70+ and a/b had 80 people, they ended up breaking the class up.
I thought vet class was “slower old dudes” but apparently it’s all A class guys that don’t want to compete in A class.
Classes are and always have been a joke.
Is it normal for the track owners to record lap times & bump people who are running lets say 2 laps as fast or faster than the next class up?
For local amateur Moto...if you can jump all the jumps and you are landing on the downside you are not a C class rider.
C class is for people learning to ride Moto.
How do we get new people into the sport if its death cross even at the local level.
Lorettas as fucked this whole system up IMO.
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We had the same 3 guys winning every race for 3 years. It was bullshit for the rest of us as there was 5-7 second difference between them and the rest of us. They moved up to intermediate finally and did decent right off the bat, but 1 ended up quitting and the other two went on to get their pro licences. One did decent, making some night shows and the other tried, but didn't make any night shows.
The A(Pro) and B(Intermediate) are almost non existent here for the most part, but that is because the fast A and B guys will only pop up every so often just to get a gate drop or two before LL and Mammoth qualifiers.
I was going to race this one in Mammoth in 2018 as well, really thankful I didn't after seeing this vid. CarlinoJoe was #205 off to the left on the start. Scary shit.
Crash @ :13 seconds in All by himself....
youtube.com/watch?v=Q-MewEx30Rk
To run upfront in a decent B class you need to be in shape & riding often. Downside is often very small B gates at local races since everyone prefers to ride C to chase trophies or takes it more seriously & travels to train/race. A decent B turnout is hit & miss in the NW............
That was gnarly though! I do remember seeing that video. My buddy Steve in #16 on the RMZ.
frankly this post deserves HOF credit already with those 2 videos... some of those dudes in the videos making brandons first race look like a supercross championship comeback lol.
It would be really simple to have open qualifying and have the race organizer select the classes. and in order to race, you must go out into your practice, and set a lap time so the organizer can sort the lap times and come up with a simple fair gate process.
If you are 5-10 seconds faster or better in your race(depending on turn out), its an auto DQ and a force up to the next division.
Problem solved and would eliminate the Lorettas Heroes that are clearly amazing riders like, Ty Masterpool, wins Schoolboy class on a 125, and the next summer he lines up as a Pro under 1 of the best teams on the planet... come on...
How does that allow for the local guy to compete?? Its a joke.
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