Friese is dangerous.

racin mason
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1/14/2020 7:05am
I dont think there is anything in the rule book stating that you must yield to the rider behind you.Being difficult to pass is a skill every racer should have !!!
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Chris O'Neal
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1/14/2020 7:54am
I understand cross jumping is really dangerous and no doubt he’s guilty of riding a wide bike. But it is race craft and he doesn’t have nitrous on his bike for the start. His starts are better and easily the best starter in SX right now. Friese has fight in him that is obvious, he is without a doubt getting better plus he is very solid.
Just think how good Craig would be if he had even a fraction of the fight in him that Friese has! The second someone comes up from behind Craig he moves right over and he’s done. Just look when Cooper passed him last weekend. Might as well have waved him by!
There’s no doubt Friese has heart and will do anything to be up front and will continue to get better. I followed Henry’s career from start to end and he was the same way. It’s clear he’s going to fight for every position and will do whatever it takes to get it.
You’ve got to respect someone that has heart like that and I hope one day he finds that extra second of speed. If Friese can find that second more a lap he would be very hard to beat!
I think the difference is between a guy like Henry and Friese, Henry hung it out to get that extra second of speed and with time learned how to control it but ultimately paid the price with injuries. Friese doesn’t crash have a highlight reel of crashes and doesn’t really look very out of control. So it’s taking longer to be comfortable with the top level of speed.
One thing is for sure though is he belongs there and earns every position he gets! He’s working hard and fights hard for his results. You’ve have to have respect for someone that has that much fight in them.
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1/14/2020 7:57am
WillyB wrote:
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crusty_xx wrote:
That was lame... Brayton, AC, Webb and more all got around Friese just fine at A1. I think that is one of Kenny's (and maybe Tomac's)...
That was lame...
Brayton, AC, Webb and more all got around Friese just fine at A1. I think that is one of Kenny's (and maybe Tomac's) weaknesses. He just can't seem to get around people sometime, even if he comes from way back and is considerably faster.
He’s known as one of the best at doing this, especially on lap one. Go watch Millville from a few years back. But agreed. The comment...
He’s known as one of the best at doing this, especially on lap one. Go watch Millville from a few years back.

But agreed. The comment was lame.
I don't think you can compare pre-injury outdoors to past-injury indoors.
The racing is much closer and I kind of feel like he sometimes isn't willing to risk as much as others. Outdoors he doesn't really seem to have that problem as there is much more room to work with.
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1/14/2020 8:01am
Friese has transformed himself into a top 10 guy. I wouldn't be surprised if he landed on the podium at some point. Great career turnaround.
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I dont think there is anything in the rule book stating that you must yield to the rider behind you.Being difficult to pass is a skill...
I dont think there is anything in the rule book stating that you must yield to the rider behind you.Being difficult to pass is a skill every racer should have !!!
If he is in front of You, You're doing something wrong. Not him.
It's that simple.
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Kenny Lingus
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1/14/2020 8:52am
I can see both sides because I've been in both of those positions. I've blocked guys that were faster and have gotten frustrated trying to pass a guy that I know I was faster than. That's racing.
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1/14/2020 9:34am
Motoxdoc wrote:
Vince is legit....I wish everyone had a hard time passing me!
Laughing Funniest thing I've read in a while.

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1/14/2020 10:44am
Agreed, especially coming from a guy who hasn't really been contending for wins in three years.
Yes, Ken has also been a "roadblock" at times for some riders the last couple of years. I was surprised he said that actually.
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1/14/2020 4:24pm
Shawn142 wrote:
Once upon a time Friese was a maniac. He would be very much like Eric Sorby and intentionally take people out, especially those who just passed...
Once upon a time Friese was a maniac. He would be very much like Eric Sorby and intentionally take people out, especially those who just passed him. He would immediately square up the guy who just got around and torpedo them from behind in the next turn. He had all kinds of antics he shouldn't have and has been DQ'd, fined, and black flagged for it over the years.

But with age hopefully comes a little wisdom and perspective. His run-ins seem much less frequent and he found speed no one thought he had. He's a top 10 guy now. While you never shake all of your old demons he has done the most of anyone I've seen to repair his image and get better at his craft.
dboivin wrote:
its like everyone forgets this because he hasn't torpedoed anyone lately...who knows maybe he grew up...sure he races hard...but his closet is full of boneheaded moves...
its like everyone forgets this because he hasn't torpedoed anyone lately...who knows maybe he grew up...sure he races hard...but his closet is full of boneheaded moves that people don't forget (except guys in this thread).

ricky touches on this mentality every race. you'll hear him say "he won't have issue if he can get around (insert rider here) as he races clean".....no one has ever said that while calling a pass on vince. Zacko races wide and hard...but his moves still ain't on vinces level...as zack can hang the whole race when hes on it.

if tony alessi manages anything MXON for us, i'm out. ain't watchin that circus. no offense...just absolutely not a fan of that rodeo.

/flame on
It's almost like people can't change...
The only thing I'll add to this is that whatever you think of Vince on the track, off the track in the pits or even in the stands between practices, he is one the most genuinely friendly guys out there to talk to. No ego, and he's happy to chat to any random fan. Same with Tyler Bowers, maybe not everyone's fave guy on the track, but off of it from a fan's perspective he's about as good as it gets.
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I dont think there is anything in the rule book stating that you must yield to the rider behind you.Being difficult to pass is a skill...
I dont think there is anything in the rule book stating that you must yield to the rider behind you.Being difficult to pass is a skill every racer should have !!!
slaveO wrote:
If he is in front of You, You're doing something wrong. Not him.
It's that simple.
Bingo.
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BobbyM wrote:
Bingo.
Yup,

Don't like passing Vince, get better starts
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hamncheeze wrote:
The only thing I'll add to this is that whatever you think of Vince on the track, off the track in the pits or even in...
The only thing I'll add to this is that whatever you think of Vince on the track, off the track in the pits or even in the stands between practices, he is one the most genuinely friendly guys out there to talk to. No ego, and he's happy to chat to any random fan. Same with Tyler Bowers, maybe not everyone's fave guy on the track, but off of it from a fan's perspective he's about as good as it gets.
I wish I could ride like Vince! And Tomac wishes he could start like him. Wink
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1/17/2020 12:09am
No matter how good freise's starts are, he will always be outside the top 5. guarunteed!
Freise is the new Alessi - Holeshots out of the gate & then fades like cheap paint. Tongue
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1/17/2020 2:31am
endoh935 wrote:
No matter how good freise's starts are, he will always be outside the top 5. guarunteed! Freise is the new Alessi - Holeshots out of the...
No matter how good freise's starts are, he will always be outside the top 5. guarunteed!
Freise is the new Alessi - Holeshots out of the gate & then fades like cheap paint. Tongue
Wish I could fade like cheap paint to a top ten in 450sx
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1/17/2020 5:12am
WillyB wrote:
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crusty_xx wrote:
That was lame... Brayton, AC, Webb and more all got around Friese just fine at A1. I think that is one of Kenny's (and maybe Tomac's)...
That was lame...
Brayton, AC, Webb and more all got around Friese just fine at A1. I think that is one of Kenny's (and maybe Tomac's) weaknesses. He just can't seem to get around people sometime, even if he comes from way back and is considerably faster.
Just so all the Freezy haters know, he was talking about a different rider.
1/18/2020 12:39pm
I understand cross jumping is really dangerous and no doubt he’s guilty of riding a wide bike. But it is race craft and he doesn’t have...
I understand cross jumping is really dangerous and no doubt he’s guilty of riding a wide bike. But it is race craft and he doesn’t have nitrous on his bike for the start. His starts are better and easily the best starter in SX right now. Friese has fight in him that is obvious, he is without a doubt getting better plus he is very solid.
Just think how good Craig would be if he had even a fraction of the fight in him that Friese has! The second someone comes up from behind Craig he moves right over and he’s done. Just look when Cooper passed him last weekend. Might as well have waved him by!
There’s no doubt Friese has heart and will do anything to be up front and will continue to get better. I followed Henry’s career from start to end and he was the same way. It’s clear he’s going to fight for every position and will do whatever it takes to get it.
You’ve got to respect someone that has heart like that and I hope one day he finds that extra second of speed. If Friese can find that second more a lap he would be very hard to beat!
I think the difference is between a guy like Henry and Friese, Henry hung it out to get that extra second of speed and with time learned how to control it but ultimately paid the price with injuries. Friese doesn’t crash have a highlight reel of crashes and doesn’t really look very out of control. So it’s taking longer to be comfortable with the top level of speed.
One thing is for sure though is he belongs there and earns every position he gets! He’s working hard and fights hard for his results. You’ve have to have respect for someone that has that much fight in them.
Craig has the speed but he starts to fade after a few laps and then they start passing him or he crashes. If Vince had Craig's speed he would be a contender and he also continues to improve every season. Cool
1/18/2020 12:46pm
Was watching the press conference just now, and Roczen just said: "I think we can all agree there's a couple of road blocks out there, and...
Was watching the press conference just now, and Roczen just said: "I think we can all agree there's a couple of road blocks out there, and when they're getting good starts, that makes a lot of our lives a lot more difficult and more sketchy."

Wonder who he might be talking about?
It is their job to pass him if he is racing for position and not a lapper. If he gets the holeshot, maybe they need to work on their starts?
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1/19/2020 11:25am
WillyB wrote:
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crusty_xx wrote:
That was lame... Brayton, AC, Webb and more all got around Friese just fine at A1. I think that is one of Kenny's (and maybe Tomac's)...
That was lame...
Brayton, AC, Webb and more all got around Friese just fine at A1. I think that is one of Kenny's (and maybe Tomac's) weaknesses. He just can't seem to get around people sometime, even if he comes from way back and is considerably faster.
UpTiTe wrote:
Just so all the Freezy haters know, he was talking about a different rider.
Zack was it ?
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I think mx bikes should have turn signals, a brake light, and a horn. Before and after the race everyone needs to shake hands. A hug wouldn't hurt. It's too dangerous racing for a better position and creates a hostile relationship between riders. . Aggressive riding should be a felony. Racing has gotten out of hand. Everyone should get a 1st place trophy
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MaxPower wrote:
I think mx bikes should have turn signals, a brake light, and a horn. Before and after the race everyone needs to shake hands. A hug...
I think mx bikes should have turn signals, a brake light, and a horn. Before and after the race everyone needs to shake hands. A hug wouldn't hurt. It's too dangerous racing for a better position and creates a hostile relationship between riders. . Aggressive riding should be a felony. Racing has gotten out of hand. Everyone should get a 1st place trophy
When I was faster on a mountain bike, I put one of those squeaky horns on my bicycle just to let other riders know I was behind them. Most of the time it got a pretty good chuckle except one time we got behind a team of guys that were taking it really serious at a local trail. A buddy and I fell in behind them and stayed on their tail and were pressuring them and I honked my little horn and a guy slid out in a corner and yelled a few profanities. We had a good laugh at the truck after that ride.
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1/29/2020 7:02am
MaxPower wrote:
I think mx bikes should have turn signals, a brake light, and a horn. Before and after the race everyone needs to shake hands. A hug...
I think mx bikes should have turn signals, a brake light, and a horn. Before and after the race everyone needs to shake hands. A hug wouldn't hurt. It's too dangerous racing for a better position and creates a hostile relationship between riders. . Aggressive riding should be a felony. Racing has gotten out of hand. Everyone should get a 1st place trophy
IWreckALot wrote:
When I was faster on a mountain bike, I put one of those squeaky horns on my bicycle just to let other riders know I was...
When I was faster on a mountain bike, I put one of those squeaky horns on my bicycle just to let other riders know I was behind them. Most of the time it got a pretty good chuckle except one time we got behind a team of guys that were taking it really serious at a local trail. A buddy and I fell in behind them and stayed on their tail and were pressuring them and I honked my little horn and a guy slid out in a corner and yelled a few profanities. We had a good laugh at the truck after that ride.
Please tell me that you gave the poor disgruntled trail-blocker a Participation Trophy?
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I bet a few of these guys are ready to clean him out. Who's it going to be?

I want to join the party.

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