No MXoN for Kawasaki

RichardLoots 8/8/2019 11:09am
8/8/2019 11:09am Edited Date/Time 8/8/2019 11:12am
so much for revenge , i said from day one he wouldnt go ..here we are , not suprised at all .. Kawasaki taking the heat
we wont see Tomac race outside USA anymore .. its a lot of talk , but no show ..


“It’s still in my head and my mind, it’s bugging me,” admitted Tomac in the MEC press conference despite just making a million dollars in a thrilling night in Vegas. “I know we are better than what we finished, but that’s why we go racing and we didn’t make it happen. I think it added probably three years on my career because I want to go over there and get revenge on those guys. All in all though, we did just get straight up beat.”



http://gatedrop.com/tomac-speaks-out-again-after-mxon-i-want-revenge/
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steed 2.0 8/8/2019 11:12am
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TeamGreen wrote:
An open question looking for honest consideration and open-minded discusion: The Promoter(s) of MXON makes money. Looks like tickets and parking ain't cheap...not at all. Who...
An open question looking for honest consideration and open-minded discusion:

The Promoter(s) of MXON makes money. Looks like tickets and parking ain't cheap...not at all.

Who else makes money at this event?

Is it unreasonable for a race team/team sponsors/riders to decide that the cost and risk isn't worth it?
Most of the European Grand Prix ain't profitable... ( at its best without financial löss ) Assen decides after the des Nations whether they will continue or not. ( so basically the des Nations have to make up for the loss of previous 4 years MXGP. )
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WCRider 8/8/2019 11:41am
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woody woodpecker wrote:
Scared to lose.... Sad.
Or just realistic as Ferrandis. 2020 is probably his last chance to get the SX title. A lot of works to do on the bike, on skill as starts, jumping whoops or whatever But I can understand the disappointment of people who do not like him. Easy catch for haters.
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Payup_199 8/8/2019 11:43am
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AC was on Pulp last episode and truly wants to go. The way he was talking about it is that he had a "racetech rant" he could go on about this but cant say it against his boss/employer that signs his check. This is all the employer and not the rider.
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Premix 8/8/2019 12:04pm
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Those green turds wouldn’t survive the Assen sand anyways. Hell they barely made it through Red Bud.

I would much rather have a manufacture that wants to support their riders there anyways.



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Mr. Info 8/8/2019 12:10pm
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Its just a upfront answer for the riders who don't want to go because there butts will get beat.
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TeamGreen 8/8/2019 12:17pm
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TeamGreen wrote:
An open question looking for honest consideration and open-minded discusion: The Promoter(s) of MXON makes money. Looks like tickets and parking ain't cheap...not at all. Who...
An open question looking for honest consideration and open-minded discusion:

The Promoter(s) of MXON makes money. Looks like tickets and parking ain't cheap...not at all.

Who else makes money at this event?

Is it unreasonable for a race team/team sponsors/riders to decide that the cost and risk isn't worth it?
steed 2.0 wrote:
Most of the European Grand Prix ain't profitable... ( at its best without financial löss ) Assen decides after the des Nations whether they will continue...
Most of the European Grand Prix ain't profitable... ( at its best without financial löss ) Assen decides after the des Nations whether they will continue or not. ( so basically the des Nations have to make up for the loss of previous 4 years MXGP. )
Wait a second...

You seem to think the Luongos aren't making money?

Laughing
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kiwifan 8/8/2019 12:20pm
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I think its sad when a manufacturer and/or sponsor can dictate whether you ride in it or not, yes yes I know they pay the riders salary, but still....I guess that is the reality of a professional sport
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Kawasaki was more supportive of the usgps than any of the other teams here. Maybe they seen the 2020 mxgp calendar and asked themselves why should they spend the money to go to race in a series that doesnt race in their country in the foreseeable future? Still wondering why Assen is on the 2020 schedule directly after a mxon and the whole counrty of the USA which is bigger than the area where 15 of the 20 mxgp races is cant get a race for 2 yrs after we have the mxon? Favortism? Kawasaki stood up to youthstream and their 1 sided agenda good for them.
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Ozzy 8/8/2019 12:40pm
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Being a Fan, I fully understand most Fans opinions.
Having been myself before, I’m with Kawasaki.
Beyond that, you’d have to see it from the Teams side to really grasp the whole deal.
On the outside it’s easy to be a Hater it seems.
That’s just Human Nature, however, it’s an insanely costly, time consuming & really not what it used to be type of Deal & Commitment.
Fans will never see beyond their side!!
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hamncheeze 8/8/2019 12:43pm
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biscuit11 wrote:
Kawasaki was more supportive of the usgps than any of the other teams here. Maybe they seen the 2020 mxgp calendar and asked themselves why should...
Kawasaki was more supportive of the usgps than any of the other teams here. Maybe they seen the 2020 mxgp calendar and asked themselves why should they spend the money to go to race in a series that doesnt race in their country in the foreseeable future? Still wondering why Assen is on the 2020 schedule directly after a mxon and the whole counrty of the USA which is bigger than the area where 15 of the 20 mxgp races is cant get a race for 2 yrs after we have the mxon? Favortism? Kawasaki stood up to youthstream and their 1 sided agenda good for them.
By their country you mean Japan right? Kawasaki is not an American company.
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theprizefighter 8/8/2019 12:50pm
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kiwifan wrote:
I think its sad when a manufacturer and/or sponsor can dictate whether you ride in it or not, yes yes I know they pay the riders...
I think its sad when a manufacturer and/or sponsor can dictate whether you ride in it or not, yes yes I know they pay the riders salary, but still....I guess that is the reality of a professional sport
I think Tomac has as much to do with the decision as Kawasaki did.
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Falcon 8/8/2019 12:59pm
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Whatever the real reason is, I have an issue with it. Go race, you traitor cowards!!!!


Grinning Grinning Grinning Grinning OK, just kidding. But I really do have a problem with all the excuses. "He needs time to prepare for the MEC," "There are too many races in the offseason," "He has to get ready for A1," "He's on a new bike..."
Guess what? 1) Your favorite rider is already 95% prepared for the MEC by using the settings he won on last year. 2) A motocross rider's job is to race motocross, and the fact that they have to work 30 weeks out of the year doesn't make me feel sorry for them. 3) Any rider can continue to get ready for A1 while he races the MXDN; it's called multitasking. And 4) Ask Ryan Sipes about getting used to a new bike, because he's riding his 3rd one of the day right now.
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Stuntman949 8/8/2019 1:02pm
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MXoN? Pretty sure the last one of those was 2011
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mxb2 8/8/2019 1:03pm
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Falcon wrote:
Whatever the real reason is, I have an issue with it. Go race, you traitor cowards!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: OK, just kidding. But I really...
Whatever the real reason is, I have an issue with it. Go race, you traitor cowards!!!!


Grinning Grinning Grinning Grinning OK, just kidding. But I really do have a problem with all the excuses. "He needs time to prepare for the MEC," "There are too many races in the offseason," "He has to get ready for A1," "He's on a new bike..."
Guess what? 1) Your favorite rider is already 95% prepared for the MEC by using the settings he won on last year. 2) A motocross rider's job is to race motocross, and the fact that they have to work 30 weeks out of the year doesn't make me feel sorry for them. 3) Any rider can continue to get ready for A1 while he races the MXDN; it's called multitasking. And 4) Ask Ryan Sipes about getting used to a new bike, because he's riding his 3rd one of the day right now.
Let kroc, marvin,ferrandis know this also. As you say no excuses.
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dirtdog36 8/8/2019 1:05pm
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Falcon wrote:
Whatever the real reason is, I have an issue with it. Go race, you traitor cowards!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: OK, just kidding. But I really...
Whatever the real reason is, I have an issue with it. Go race, you traitor cowards!!!!


Grinning Grinning Grinning Grinning OK, just kidding. But I really do have a problem with all the excuses. "He needs time to prepare for the MEC," "There are too many races in the offseason," "He has to get ready for A1," "He's on a new bike..."
Guess what? 1) Your favorite rider is already 95% prepared for the MEC by using the settings he won on last year. 2) A motocross rider's job is to race motocross, and the fact that they have to work 30 weeks out of the year doesn't make me feel sorry for them. 3) Any rider can continue to get ready for A1 while he races the MXDN; it's called multitasking. And 4) Ask Ryan Sipes about getting used to a new bike, because he's riding his 3rd one of the day right now.
You obviously don’t own your own business
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Finnish_Flash_62 8/8/2019 1:17pm
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I get the point they are making and why they don’t want their riders to go. It’s fair, and arguing over that is pointless.

I still don’t agree with the decision though. Bummed this is the way the sport is going.
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BigDaddyG 8/8/2019 1:24pm
8/8/2019 1:24pm
I don't blame Kawi or the riders at all....ET3 needs that SX title to cement his legacy and he is obviously the fastest dude out there just need to work out a few bugs.

AC.....I am going stir some shit here, but I feel like for the first time in a long time we have a rookie who can win races and a title in SX his first year in the big boy class. I feel like his size, style, dedication and heart will have him as the best rookie since Dungey's rookie season.

While the MXDN (I am old school) is a cool race, I understand that business side of it. The FIM needs to re-evaluate the schedule to make it friendlier to the US.
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kkawboy14 8/8/2019 1:26pm
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TeamGreen wrote:
An open question looking for honest consideration and open-minded discusion: The Promoter(s) of MXON makes money. Looks like tickets and parking ain't cheap...not at all. Who...
An open question looking for honest consideration and open-minded discusion:

The Promoter(s) of MXON makes money. Looks like tickets and parking ain't cheap...not at all.

Who else makes money at this event?

Is it unreasonable for a race team/team sponsors/riders to decide that the cost and risk isn't worth it?
ATKpilot99 wrote:
Funny how this was never an issue during our win streaks.
Because winning does pay dividends!

2nd, 3rd, 7th? Not so much!
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DonM 8/8/2019 1:30pm
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I've said this in other threads, but IMO Kawasaki is just laying down and taking the bullets here for ET and AC. Tomac after the Red...
I've said this in other threads, but IMO Kawasaki is just laying down and taking the bullets here for ET and AC. Tomac after the Red Bud debacle wants nothing to do with MXoN, plus he really needs to nail down a SX title as his window is closing. AC is moving up to the big bike, and I'm sure he's much more wanting to get time on it and get ready for A1. Despite what both riders have said about wanting to MXoN if asked, I think neither wants to go and Kawasaki and Stjernstrom have decided they will take the heat instead of the riders, hence this PR.
That's BS...like I've said in multiple other threads that this is one man's decision and as long as he is in charge you won't see Kawi riders at the MXDN
(disclaimer is if the MEC date changes...)
ProbablyDave 8/8/2019 1:56pm
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DonM wrote:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B06oS2mh8I8/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Could this be a dig at his former employer.....
"back to a time when riders and teams took pride in being selected to represent Team USA."

I know what he's saying, and I'm on board with his sentiment, but I can think of plenty of US riders that are chomping at the bit to represent their country.
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GuyB 8/8/2019 2:03pm
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I don’t think anyone has to necessarily like Monster Energy Kawasaki’s position, but I certainly understand it.

Eli probably should have won the last two SX series. I get the full focus there. Adam moving to the 450 class? He’ll need the time and focus...especially if he’s racing the Monster Energy Cup.

Boycotts? C’mon...

Instead of sniveling about who’s not going, how about getting behind the guys who are?
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kaptkaos 8/8/2019 2:05pm
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No biggie, Honda got us most of the Trophies anyways! Ride Red!
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biscuit11 8/8/2019 2:07pm
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Kawasaki was more supportive of the usgps than any of the other teams here. Maybe they seen the 2020 mxgp calendar and asked themselves why should...
Kawasaki was more supportive of the usgps than any of the other teams here. Maybe they seen the 2020 mxgp calendar and asked themselves why should they spend the money to go to race in a series that doesnt race in their country in the foreseeable future? Still wondering why Assen is on the 2020 schedule directly after a mxon and the whole counrty of the USA which is bigger than the area where 15 of the 20 mxgp races is cant get a race for 2 yrs after we have the mxon? Favortism? Kawasaki stood up to youthstream and their 1 sided agenda good for them.
hamncheeze wrote:
By their country you mean Japan right? Kawasaki is not an American company.
Common sense man you know what im talking about lol.
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Knobbyjake 8/8/2019 2:07pm
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I've loved the MXdN since the 70s. But like Ozzy said it lost it's magic. Even if we were still on a streak it's just not the same. Sad
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huck 8/8/2019 2:09pm
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Could you imagine an NBA team having to send one of their top teams across the world to play in a game... while spending hundreds of thousand (if not more) to do so... with little to no financial gain?
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beamer 8/8/2019 2:12pm
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I ride a Kawasaki and this doesn't hurt my feelings one bit, nor will it influence my future buying decisions. Its a business decision and business is booming.
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77Moto 8/8/2019 2:13pm
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The current projected guys for the USA are more than capable. Anderson at least deserves it anyway after getting landed on.
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Titan1 8/8/2019 2:13pm
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I don’t care much for the MXDN...but I care even less for the MEC...so it sucks that it is a reason that riders won’t go.

What if rather than move the MXDN to better suit the US schedule...why don’t they move the MEC to accommodate the MXDN? Have it after the MXDN or right before SX starts.

Or Cancel the MEC all together? If Monster wants to give a million bucks away to some dirt bike riders...add it to the purse money of supercross...or give it to the winning team at the MXDN.
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