Practice day - close call and crash (video)

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3/26/2019 8:24pm
5280mx wrote:
I guess I can see how my post could come off douchey..I would never make fun of an injury to someone I don't know, that said...
I guess I can see how my post could come off douchey..I would never make fun of an injury to someone I don't know, that said I thought it to be some harmless fun and I had that song stuck in my head. My apologies if I offended anyone.
I have no problem with someone faster passing me, as long as it is within the track boundaries we all abide to.
It is good to get input from other riders and hear your opinions on it.
I would have wanted to rail that line, but the timing with you right there would have pissed me off too
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3/26/2019 8:26pm Edited Date/Time 3/26/2019 8:29pm
hahaha “that dude almost killed me”. That man was shlumped like a mother fucker. he more than likely checks up if you didn’t let off and look at him
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3/26/2019 8:28pm
MotoMo165 wrote:
hahaha “that dude almost killed me”. That man was shlumped like a mother fucker. he more than likely checks up if you didn’t let off and...
hahaha “that dude almost killed me”. That man was shlumped like a mother fucker. he more than likely checks up if you didn’t let off and look at him
He was in a happy place and hugging his bike when all the dust settled. I thank my dirt bike for all the good times on occasion too.
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Gilby122 wrote:
Same one Derek was using in this video? [url=https://www.instagram.com/p/BvbvWjLgbya/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=egz53qiyo9pw]https://www.instagram.com/p/BvbvWjLgbya/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=egz53qiyo9pw[/url]
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Oh Wow...I had not seen that.
Notice no one is around him though.
Derek flies, much respect, that guy is gnarly!
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3/26/2019 8:33pm
10/10 I’m railing that cheater line
Same here, that thing looks delicious.
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3/26/2019 8:42pm
I'm with 5280 on this one. Been to that track 1000 times and never seen anyone take that line. Also, I have only seen one other guy crash in that spot, you really have to be way out of control to hit that building. I would have been a bit annoyed with that situation as well.
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3/26/2019 8:50pm
This is one of the tracks I ride. I dont think the wide angle lens does that slow corner justice to show just how far down the track the building is. As many times as I've ridden past that finish line, I've never worried about smashing into that building or wondering if someone has ever hit it. That corner is so slow... I cant imagine how fast that rider must've been going.

With that said, this dude looks legit fucked up. The way he is sitting frog legged over the bike looks like he broke his pelvis or his hips. Not to mention hes hugging his exhaust pipe and hes no doubt been knocked out. He also looks like he was probably a decent rider despite making a bad decision. I think the OP might want to show a little empathy for this dude who probably is still in the hospital and is unlikely to be riding again anytime soon. I think we can all find amusement in goon riding and certainly be critical of this riders poor judgement but this crash looks terrible.
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3/26/2019 8:57pm
Shawnh wrote:
I'm with 5280 on this one. Been to that track 1000 times and never seen anyone take that line. Also, I have only seen one other...
I'm with 5280 on this one. Been to that track 1000 times and never seen anyone take that line. Also, I have only seen one other guy crash in that spot, you really have to be way out of control to hit that building. I would have been a bit annoyed with that situation as well.
Thanks for the local perspective of the track, appreciate the input from someone who knows it.
For those that say he was in the right, where should the slower rider be? In the middle line? I am just not sure where I should be in that situation. I was warming up, so I stayed inside. Never saw that coming until the last sec. It is not a 3 wide type of jump.
It was a scary moment that happened very quickly, just happy he survived. A lesson for all involved!


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3/26/2019 9:08pm
Dude is KO'd laying on a 600 degree header, and you're about to fight him.....Nice
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Shawnh wrote:
I'm with 5280 on this one. Been to that track 1000 times and never seen anyone take that line. Also, I have only seen one other...
I'm with 5280 on this one. Been to that track 1000 times and never seen anyone take that line. Also, I have only seen one other guy crash in that spot, you really have to be way out of control to hit that building. I would have been a bit annoyed with that situation as well.
5280mx wrote:
Thanks for the local perspective of the track, appreciate the input from someone who knows it. For those that say he was in the right, where...
Thanks for the local perspective of the track, appreciate the input from someone who knows it.
For those that say he was in the right, where should the slower rider be? In the middle line? I am just not sure where I should be in that situation. I was warming up, so I stayed inside. Never saw that coming until the last sec. It is not a 3 wide type of jump.
It was a scary moment that happened very quickly, just happy he survived. A lesson for all involved!


The slower rider doesn't have to be inside or outside, just holding a somewhat steady line.

From your video there are obvious signs that people had been taking that line recently. There's the other video showing someone else taking it. There are no track markers there at all. Complaining about those things takes a little bit away from the rest of your issues. Could very well be that the guy didn't check up because he saw you looking and slowing, hard to say. I certainly can't see why your buddy would be upset, he didn't do anything wrong to him that's visible on the video.

I'd recommend renting a track for a private day.....
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3/26/2019 9:13pm
Shawnh wrote:
I'm with 5280 on this one. Been to that track 1000 times and never seen anyone take that line. Also, I have only seen one other...
I'm with 5280 on this one. Been to that track 1000 times and never seen anyone take that line. Also, I have only seen one other guy crash in that spot, you really have to be way out of control to hit that building. I would have been a bit annoyed with that situation as well.
5280mx wrote:
Thanks for the local perspective of the track, appreciate the input from someone who knows it. For those that say he was in the right, where...
Thanks for the local perspective of the track, appreciate the input from someone who knows it.
For those that say he was in the right, where should the slower rider be? In the middle line? I am just not sure where I should be in that situation. I was warming up, so I stayed inside. Never saw that coming until the last sec. It is not a 3 wide type of jump.
It was a scary moment that happened very quickly, just happy he survived. A lesson for all involved!


I dont think there is a safe line from that inside line. It's not even on the track and I cant imagine other people are anticipating someone flying in like that. Also, if someone did want to run that line, it's very easy to make sure no ones ahead of them.

I dont think anyone is saying you're in the wrong. This guy was clearly being reckless. As someone who's riding this track many times, I think that the rider was completely in the wrong. I dont think rubbing his nose in it, so to speak, though, is in good form. I would be very surprised if this guy is not severely injured. I think this may be an instance though where one can be grateful they weren't injured while pointing out that reckless riding is dangerous and leave it at that.
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3/26/2019 9:18pm
Shawnh wrote:
I'm with 5280 on this one. Been to that track 1000 times and never seen anyone take that line. Also, I have only seen one other...
I'm with 5280 on this one. Been to that track 1000 times and never seen anyone take that line. Also, I have only seen one other guy crash in that spot, you really have to be way out of control to hit that building. I would have been a bit annoyed with that situation as well.
5280mx wrote:
Thanks for the local perspective of the track, appreciate the input from someone who knows it. For those that say he was in the right, where...
Thanks for the local perspective of the track, appreciate the input from someone who knows it.
For those that say he was in the right, where should the slower rider be? In the middle line? I am just not sure where I should be in that situation. I was warming up, so I stayed inside. Never saw that coming until the last sec. It is not a 3 wide type of jump.
It was a scary moment that happened very quickly, just happy he survived. A lesson for all involved!


APLMAN99 wrote:
The slower rider doesn't have to be inside or outside, just holding a somewhat steady line. From your video there are obvious signs that people had...
The slower rider doesn't have to be inside or outside, just holding a somewhat steady line.

From your video there are obvious signs that people had been taking that line recently. There's the other video showing someone else taking it. There are no track markers there at all. Complaining about those things takes a little bit away from the rest of your issues. Could very well be that the guy didn't check up because he saw you looking and slowing, hard to say. I certainly can't see why your buddy would be upset, he didn't do anything wrong to him that's visible on the video.

I'd recommend renting a track for a private day.....
I think what's tough to see from the video due to the wide angle lens is that coming from the far inside like that, you will almost certainly have to cross jump off the launch in order to make sure you land back on the track.

Also, I've ridden there probably 50 times or so and I've never once seen anyone ride that inside line. It's definitely not part of the intended track even though it definitely shows that people were riding it.
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3/26/2019 9:19pm
The guy is an idiot. At least he didn't hurt anyone else nearly killing himself.
3/26/2019 9:23pm
1. He didn’t almost kill you. At all. Not even close.
2. He got hurt. Bad. You made a video about it and called it karma because he passed you.
3. You started a thread about it on vital.

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I put the blame for that line on the track owner. Can’t leave the inside of a corner like that and not expect people to start taking it.

With that said, I’m glad the kid is ok and hopefully he learns from riding like a dick and doesn’t do anything like that again. No matter what happens or who the person is, I never want to see anything like that happen.
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3/26/2019 9:31pm
Shame he didn't overshoot the berm earlier and slam into the shitter! Even funnier if someone was in it!?
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3/26/2019 9:32pm
BobPA wrote:
Dude is KO'd laying on a 600 degree header, and you're about to fight him.....Nice
My initial reaction of anger turned quickly to horror when I saw his condition. I am human.
I stood there in shock for probably 30 secs with my hands on my head just praying he was ok.
Am I ashamed of being angry, yes a little, but I had also just been blindsided by someone with no regard for my safety.
I only left the scene after he regained consciousness and was moving his arms and legs. It took me a good hour to get the hearbeat back to normal, scared the crap out of me.
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3/26/2019 9:47pm
1. He didn’t almost kill you. At all. Not even close. 2. He got hurt. Bad. You made a video about it and called it karma...
1. He didn’t almost kill you. At all. Not even close.
2. He got hurt. Bad. You made a video about it and called it karma because he passed you.
3. You started a thread about it on vital.

Cliffs
The video doesnt do it justice but that guy coming from the inside has to cross jump because the track turns to the right at the landing. If 5280 didnt check up and that guy launched after him, they wouldn't be side by side... the other guy would jump diagonally into him. And that table is a legit launch. I'd bet between 8 to 10 feet high and maybe 90 feet long if not more. Heres a pic from one of the races last year.. same jump.



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3/26/2019 9:52pm Edited Date/Time 3/26/2019 10:02pm
Hope the kid is alright he hit hard. He was out of control thats for sure!!
I'm also wondering about the location of that building.
The edits and mockery of a downed rider regardless of circumstances is a little much imo, not my style.
I get how you feel, and understand. Although with all your experience, i feel you could of just shook this off and be grateful nobody else was involved or injured.



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As far as the track goes I ride there once or twice a month and that line is not part of the track. If you took a picture of the exit or watch Andersons video you see at the exit of the turn he has to make a quick right to get back on the track. Anderson even called it a cheater line in his post because it's obviously an off track line and just something for fun. I see nothing really wrong or dangerous with that line on a practice day (so long as you know what your doing) but if it was race day it would absolutely be cutting the track. As for the next turn like most have said it's actually really low speed with a little ant hill type roller filled by an immediate hard left. Basically the bottom of second gear for the fast guys that guy looks like he tried cutting the corner to right and went off track and got kicked (there is a hole just off track on the inside.)
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The guy you speak of was the fastest mini bike rider in Colorado at one point. And it's really fast now.

The berm blew out and popped him towards the finish line tower. You can see the dirt fly up. He had probably hit that same line at that speed multiple times with no problem.

Imo looked like you guys were going to slow for the motocross track. Maybe you and your friend should of been riding the quad and kids track that is behind the starting gate.
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3/26/2019 10:16pm
BMc914 wrote:
The guy you speak of was the fastest mini bike rider in Colorado at one point. And it's really fast now. The berm blew out and...
The guy you speak of was the fastest mini bike rider in Colorado at one point. And it's really fast now.

The berm blew out and popped him towards the finish line tower. You can see the dirt fly up. He had probably hit that same line at that speed multiple times with no problem.

Imo looked like you guys were going to slow for the motocross track. Maybe you and your friend should of been riding the quad and kids track that is behind the starting gate.
Is he ok?
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BMc914 wrote:
The guy you speak of was the fastest mini bike rider in Colorado at one point. And it's really fast now. The berm blew out and...
The guy you speak of was the fastest mini bike rider in Colorado at one point. And it's really fast now.

The berm blew out and popped him towards the finish line tower. You can see the dirt fly up. He had probably hit that same line at that speed multiple times with no problem.

Imo looked like you guys were going to slow for the motocross track. Maybe you and your friend should of been riding the quad and kids track that is behind the starting gate.
slideways wrote:
Is he ok?
Dont know him personally just been to alot of races for a long time.
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3/26/2019 10:22pm
BMc914 wrote:
The guy you speak of was the fastest mini bike rider in Colorado at one point. And it's really fast now. The berm blew out and...
The guy you speak of was the fastest mini bike rider in Colorado at one point. And it's really fast now.

The berm blew out and popped him towards the finish line tower. You can see the dirt fly up. He had probably hit that same line at that speed multiple times with no problem.

Imo looked like you guys were going to slow for the motocross track. Maybe you and your friend should of been riding the quad and kids track that is behind the starting gate.
Maybe you should read the post...I have said I was warming up and staying inside, well aware of everyone around me.
Sorry we don't go balls out first lap on the track in 2 months..
If there was someone faster coming up behind me I would have moved off the track. had nowhere to go.
Cant anticipate someone cutting that much time off that corner.
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BMc914 wrote:
The guy you speak of was the fastest mini bike rider in Colorado at one point. And it's really fast now. The berm blew out and...
The guy you speak of was the fastest mini bike rider in Colorado at one point. And it's really fast now.

The berm blew out and popped him towards the finish line tower. You can see the dirt fly up. He had probably hit that same line at that speed multiple times with no problem.

Imo looked like you guys were going to slow for the motocross track. Maybe you and your friend should of been riding the quad and kids track that is behind the starting gate.
5280mx wrote:
Maybe you should read the post...I have said I was warming up and staying inside, well aware of everyone around me. Sorry we don't go balls...
Maybe you should read the post...I have said I was warming up and staying inside, well aware of everyone around me.
Sorry we don't go balls out first lap on the track in 2 months..
If there was someone faster coming up behind me I would have moved off the track. had nowhere to go.
Cant anticipate someone cutting that much time off that corner.
Maybe go watch a few laps see what's going on before you go out and ride. See who is out there. The track might be running a little fast for your speed at the time. Wait until they wear out then go out and ride.
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3/26/2019 10:34pm
MxKing809 wrote:
My dude was piled up!

What injures did he sustain?

It looks like all kinds of BROS were railing that dozer windrow.
5280mx wrote:
I honestly thought he was a goner when I walked up on him. Thankfully, I saw him start moving his arms and legs a little. At...
I honestly thought he was a goner when I walked up on him.
Thankfully, I saw him start moving his arms and legs a little.
At that point I walked away, had to go calm the heart rate a little Sick
RONJ OSE wrote:
well at least he was good
did he walk off or ambulance?


dude crashed hard and why would they put a building next to that burm
My first thought is that the building will be taking more hits in future.

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3/26/2019 10:40pm
BMc914 wrote:
The guy you speak of was the fastest mini bike rider in Colorado at one point. And it's really fast now. The berm blew out and...
The guy you speak of was the fastest mini bike rider in Colorado at one point. And it's really fast now.

The berm blew out and popped him towards the finish line tower. You can see the dirt fly up. He had probably hit that same line at that speed multiple times with no problem.

Imo looked like you guys were going to slow for the motocross track. Maybe you and your friend should of been riding the quad and kids track that is behind the starting gate.
5280mx wrote:
Maybe you should read the post...I have said I was warming up and staying inside, well aware of everyone around me. Sorry we don't go balls...
Maybe you should read the post...I have said I was warming up and staying inside, well aware of everyone around me.
Sorry we don't go balls out first lap on the track in 2 months..
If there was someone faster coming up behind me I would have moved off the track. had nowhere to go.
Cant anticipate someone cutting that much time off that corner.
BMc914 wrote:
Maybe go watch a few laps see what's going on before you go out and ride. See who is out there. The track might be running...
Maybe go watch a few laps see what's going on before you go out and ride. See who is out there. The track might be running a little fast for your speed at the time. Wait until they wear out then go out and ride.
According to your logic, only A riders are allowed on the track? Everyone else on the quad or kids track?
I value some thoughtful input, and can admit when im wrong...but really?
Yes, I always watch a few laps, see how the speed is.
Ensuring I enter when safe and not intruding on anyone coming up.
If you've actually ridden that track, you would know that no one could come through that corner so fast on the inside Tongue
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