Nico Izzi in trouble in Arkansas now...

UpTiTe 9/19/2018 7:56am
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After reading the majority of these post, it is very obvious that 99% of you have no idea what painkillers do to you or how you can get addicted to them without even wanting to be.
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UpTiTe wrote:
Idiot? Lmao. Here's the thing, when he started to figure out that he was getting addicted to painkillers, he cried out to the people that were...
Idiot? Lmao.

Here's the thing, when he started to figure out that he was getting addicted to painkillers, he cried out to the people that were supposed to help him, they did nothing for him but fire him.

I'm not supporting him one bit, I think the kid belongs in prison, but that's not the point of my arguement.

My point is that everybody wants to hammer on this kid for the choice of being an addict, again he did not choose to be an addict. Everybody's hammering on how horrible of a kid this guy is, meanwhile in another thread a guy kills himself and he's a hero with exactly the same additions.
He didn't choose?
The doctors force fed pills down his throat, or helped him chop them up to snort and inject?

Educate me on where to find a doctor that will at least prescribe a Tylenol 3 with codeine after a surgery anymore. We can't even buy "1's "anymore OTC thanks to all the pill poppers.





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UpTiTe wrote:
Failed MX career? Would you say Roncada had a failed career? Mike Healey? I have news for you, Its called pain meds, and you'd be blown...
Failed MX career? Would you say Roncada had a failed career? Mike Healey? I have news for you, Its called pain meds, and you'd be blown away how many riders have/had a battle with them. One very successful rider recently had a battle, but he wasn't thrown out ith the trash like Izzy was.

Izzy didn't choose to be an addict, he was a naive 17 year old kid who wanted to keep his ride, he even begged his team for help, but none was given because they didn't want him anymore.

Mitch should be given an award for saving Roncada, its a shame Nicos manager didn't do the same.
Trickamoto wrote:
You're an idiot! It's people like you that support the pussification of today's youth!
UpTiTe wrote:
Idiot? Lmao. Here's the thing, when he started to figure out that he was getting addicted to painkillers, he cried out to the people that were...
Idiot? Lmao.

Here's the thing, when he started to figure out that he was getting addicted to painkillers, he cried out to the people that were supposed to help him, they did nothing for him but fire him.

I'm not supporting him one bit, I think the kid belongs in prison, but that's not the point of my arguement.

My point is that everybody wants to hammer on this kid for the choice of being an addict, again he did not choose to be an addict. Everybody's hammering on how horrible of a kid this guy is, meanwhile in another thread a guy kills himself and he's a hero with exactly the same additions.
What crimes did tyler do, what criminal record? I have no idea. But izzi has been doing crimes, blowing $$ on drugs,. Great father figure. Keep on defending him, maybe you should bail him out. Let him stay with you and you can help him. Let us know how that works out. Post a video when you do.
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Andy_Greenney 9/19/2018 8:55am
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Who knew vital was such a hotspot of medical and psychological expertise.
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magoo1982 9/19/2018 10:03am
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Who knew vital was such a hotspot of medical and psychological expertise.
The U.S. is behind several other countries, when it comes to certain medical problems . They just don't want to admit it cause to many getting rich from it, in different medical fields .. I tried to help a cousin that became addicted to pain killers from work injury and bad advice from people he worked with.. The system to get help is set up to fail and just get the people hooked on what ever the particular program is pushing , then in some cases harder for the addicts to get off of what the program is pushing . If u have insurance they want u to keep coming back ..
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UpTiTe wrote:
After reading the majority of these post, it is very obvious that 99% of you have no idea what painkillers do to you or how you...
After reading the majority of these post, it is very obvious that 99% of you have no idea what painkillers do to you or how you can get addicted to them without even wanting to be.

Sir, you are wrong.

I've had 26 broken bones in a 15 year period accompanied by 3 surgeries, a life flight and 5 concussions.

I have been prescribed the standard pain killers for every one of those and had ample access to refills. And it looks like 99% of the people in this thread share a similar story, but CHOSE to not let the pain killers become an addiction. They CHOSE not to continue to use them. Every story is different, and every person has a different path, but it looks like 99% of the men in this thread DO indeed have an idea of what painkillers do, thus why they are not still on them, or battled the addiction.

Good job to those who have fought the fight. Respect.

Izzi- Man up.

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MrKnowNothing 9/19/2018 10:34am
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I wonder how many packs of cigarettes to jackhammer an anorexic white boy in gen pop
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mx317 9/19/2018 11:01am
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UpTiTe wrote:
After reading the majority of these post, it is very obvious that 99% of you have no idea what painkillers do to you or how you...
After reading the majority of these post, it is very obvious that 99% of you have no idea what painkillers do to you or how you can get addicted to them without even wanting to be.
kxkid715 wrote:
Sir, you are wrong. I've had 26 broken bones in a 15 year period accompanied by 3 surgeries, a life flight and 5 concussions. I have...

Sir, you are wrong.

I've had 26 broken bones in a 15 year period accompanied by 3 surgeries, a life flight and 5 concussions.

I have been prescribed the standard pain killers for every one of those and had ample access to refills. And it looks like 99% of the people in this thread share a similar story, but CHOSE to not let the pain killers become an addiction. They CHOSE not to continue to use them. Every story is different, and every person has a different path, but it looks like 99% of the men in this thread DO indeed have an idea of what painkillers do, thus why they are not still on them, or battled the addiction.

Good job to those who have fought the fight. Respect.

Izzi- Man up.

26 broken bones? You are doing something wrong.
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UpTiTe wrote:
After reading the majority of these post, it is very obvious that 99% of you have no idea what painkillers do to you or how you...
After reading the majority of these post, it is very obvious that 99% of you have no idea what painkillers do to you or how you can get addicted to them without even wanting to be.
kxkid715 wrote:
Sir, you are wrong. I've had 26 broken bones in a 15 year period accompanied by 3 surgeries, a life flight and 5 concussions. I have...

Sir, you are wrong.

I've had 26 broken bones in a 15 year period accompanied by 3 surgeries, a life flight and 5 concussions.

I have been prescribed the standard pain killers for every one of those and had ample access to refills. And it looks like 99% of the people in this thread share a similar story, but CHOSE to not let the pain killers become an addiction. They CHOSE not to continue to use them. Every story is different, and every person has a different path, but it looks like 99% of the men in this thread DO indeed have an idea of what painkillers do, thus why they are not still on them, or battled the addiction.

Good job to those who have fought the fight. Respect.

Izzi- Man up.

mx317 wrote:
26 broken bones? You are doing something wrong.

I've told myself that for a while now....needless to say I took up standup jet skis Laughing

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Prison is a great place to come down, dry out & get away from any way of getting opioids. It’s a sad thing for him to go there...but it might save his life. As I see it now he’s in a huge, and fast moving downward spiral to an expected end...death from OD or by getting shot by police.
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kxkid715 wrote:

I've told myself that for a while now....needless to say I took up standup jet skis Laughing

I don't want to add up my injuries lol. We have all taken our lumps.
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WTF, can't take it that someone asked for you to back up your claims a bit? Who are these captains?
make1go wrote:
you: fully astroturfed?
and that makes you thick..?.
again educate yourself.?
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you can think izzie is the worst guy on the planet...?
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davistld01 wrote:
Prison is a great place to come down, dry out & get away from any way of getting opioids. It’s a sad thing for him to...
Prison is a great place to come down, dry out & get away from any way of getting opioids. It’s a sad thing for him to go there...but it might save his life. As I see it now he’s in a huge, and fast moving downward spiral to an expected end...death from OD or by getting shot by police.
I've said this before, but a lot of people need to hit rock bottom before they can come back up for air.
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davistld01 wrote:
Prison is a great place to come down, dry out & get away from any way of getting opioids. It’s a sad thing for him to...
Prison is a great place to come down, dry out & get away from any way of getting opioids. It’s a sad thing for him to go there...but it might save his life. As I see it now he’s in a huge, and fast moving downward spiral to an expected end...death from OD or by getting shot by police.
More dope in the pokie. He wont stop until he wants to.
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Who gives a shit how he got to where he is; he's one of us. He's a rider. He's a father. He's a son. He's a human. Dude has clearly fucked up his life, done some work on his kids life, but to root for him "to get fucked in jail" vs rooting him to get his shit back together is pathetic.

Congrats tough guys, you're stronger than a broken as fuck drug addict, you win!
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akillerwombat wrote:
Who gives a shit how he got to where he is; he's one of us. He's a rider. He's a father. He's a son. He's a...
Who gives a shit how he got to where he is; he's one of us. He's a rider. He's a father. He's a son. He's a human. Dude has clearly fucked up his life, done some work on his kids life, but to root for him "to get fucked in jail" vs rooting him to get his shit back together is pathetic.

Congrats tough guys, you're stronger than a broken as fuck drug addict, you win!
At the moment some asshole steals my stuff, assaults someone, robs someone, and/or steals their dog, I don’t give two shits about the “why,” only the “what.”
We can debate addiction until we’re blue in the face. But it’s ALWAYS a choice to commit crime. Always. I don’t care what their motivation was.
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UpTiTe wrote:
Failed MX career? Would you say Roncada had a failed career? Mike Healey? I have news for you, Its called pain meds, and you'd be blown...
Failed MX career? Would you say Roncada had a failed career? Mike Healey? I have news for you, Its called pain meds, and you'd be blown away how many riders have/had a battle with them. One very successful rider recently had a battle, but he wasn't thrown out ith the trash like Izzy was.

Izzy didn't choose to be an addict, he was a naive 17 year old kid who wanted to keep his ride, he even begged his team for help, but none was given because they didn't want him anymore.

Mitch should be given an award for saving Roncada, its a shame Nicos manager didn't do the same.
Trickamoto wrote:
You're an idiot! It's people like you that support the pussification of today's youth!
UpTiTe wrote:
Idiot? Lmao. Here's the thing, when he started to figure out that he was getting addicted to painkillers, he cried out to the people that were...
Idiot? Lmao.

Here's the thing, when he started to figure out that he was getting addicted to painkillers, he cried out to the people that were supposed to help him, they did nothing for him but fire him.

I'm not supporting him one bit, I think the kid belongs in prison, but that's not the point of my arguement.

My point is that everybody wants to hammer on this kid for the choice of being an addict, again he did not choose to be an addict. Everybody's hammering on how horrible of a kid this guy is, meanwhile in another thread a guy kills himself and he's a hero with exactly the same additions.
I get what you're saying and who you are saying it about...but at 17 where was Nico's family? They are the ones at that age that are supposed to be there to help and they weren't there and made poor decisions that has affected Nico his life since...and I think of that hero every year around Christmas...
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I am more surprised by the non super stars who don't fall into these traps than I am by the ones that do. Hitting your head...
I am more surprised by the non super stars who don't fall into these traps than I am by the ones that do. Hitting your head on the ground multiple times during adolescence, having multiple surgeries and zero direction when the racing is over probably contributes a fair amount to their "poor decision making".

Judging them is lame especially the self righteous jerks who think they would have done differently if they were in the others boots.
slipdog wrote:
Hi, I'm Slipdog.... I've raced my entire life, first concussion at 11 racing the 60 class, multiple through my career with some as quick reboots and...
Hi, I'm Slipdog....

I've raced my entire life, first concussion at 11 racing the 60 class, multiple through my career with some as quick reboots and some KTFO. I've had multiple surgeries on wrists, heels, and shoulders. Made many poor decisions. Never... Never stole, robbed or became a junkie. I have no criminal record. I went through hard times too, but I chose to rise above. I was in the other boots as a pro that didn't live up to expectations as a racer and I did differently...
I am surprised. You should consider yourself fortunate.
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Perfect thread to find anecdotal evidence about drug addiction and how it works.
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akillerwombat wrote:
Who gives a shit how he got to where he is; he's one of us. He's a rider. He's a father. He's a son. He's a...
Who gives a shit how he got to where he is; he's one of us. He's a rider. He's a father. He's a son. He's a human. Dude has clearly fucked up his life, done some work on his kids life, but to root for him "to get fucked in jail" vs rooting him to get his shit back together is pathetic.

Congrats tough guys, you're stronger than a broken as fuck drug addict, you win!
Saw story on morning news last wknd , bout a female athlete in Nevada . She was injured playing sports,had couple operations got hooked on drugs. Got pulled over for traffic violation , had unpaid traffic ticket she was put in jail where she sat there and died because they wouldn't give medical attention ..Police station was right across street from a hospital...It was on jails camera feed..
UpTiTe 9/19/2018 4:03pm
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Trickamoto wrote:
You're an idiot! It's people like you that support the pussification of today's youth!
UpTiTe wrote:
Idiot? Lmao. Here's the thing, when he started to figure out that he was getting addicted to painkillers, he cried out to the people that were...
Idiot? Lmao.

Here's the thing, when he started to figure out that he was getting addicted to painkillers, he cried out to the people that were supposed to help him, they did nothing for him but fire him.

I'm not supporting him one bit, I think the kid belongs in prison, but that's not the point of my arguement.

My point is that everybody wants to hammer on this kid for the choice of being an addict, again he did not choose to be an addict. Everybody's hammering on how horrible of a kid this guy is, meanwhile in another thread a guy kills himself and he's a hero with exactly the same additions.
DonM wrote:
I get what you're saying and who you are saying it about...but at 17 where was Nico's family? They are the ones at that age that...
I get what you're saying and who you are saying it about...but at 17 where was Nico's family? They are the ones at that age that are supposed to be there to help and they weren't there and made poor decisions that has affected Nico his life since...and I think of that hero every year around Christmas...
His parents were at home in Michigan making a living, He was living in Corona in a condo. It was when he broke his foot really bad.

I was told that he made a late night call one night to a few people when it all started crying, alone and in his mind suffering, he was told by the three people he needed most to suck it up. it all went bad from there. like I said, he reach out and nobody was there.

It didn't help that he had guys around him that got him what he wanted, when he wanted them. Mistakes were made by many when it came to managing him when he was young.
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What a shame. I've known several addicts in my life and drugs 100% change everything about who they are. People that were fun, cool to be around and you could trust them with your life become pieces of scum that would steal from their own mother. You're not even dealing with a human anymore.

Generally speaking though, if having a kid doesn't motivate you to get your shit together, man up and do what you gotta do to provide a good life for them and be someone they can be proud to call "Dad" then you're probably, at your core, just a shitty, selfish person.
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The idea that addiction is a "disease" does nothing but enable addicts. "I can't help it, I have a disease...", "give me a break, I have a disease..."..."You don't understand, I have a disease...".

Screw that...its a choice.

Going to Heroin, from doc prescribed pain meds...or...weed, to ecstacy, to coke, to meth...doesn't make a difference...at some point those people make a choice. And they can choose to stop. Their actions are entirely on them.
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magoo1982 wrote:
Saw story on morning news last wknd , bout a female athlete in Nevada . She was injured playing sports,had couple operations got hooked on drugs...
Saw story on morning news last wknd , bout a female athlete in Nevada . She was injured playing sports,had couple operations got hooked on drugs. Got pulled over for traffic violation , had unpaid traffic ticket she was put in jail where she sat there and died because they wouldn't give medical attention ..Police station was right across street from a hospital...It was on jails camera feed..
Here's another crazy situation. The local county court system requires all attorneys to communicate via the internet. Trouble is...the county website is constantly down. A couple of weeks ago a woman was arrested and locked up on a thursday. Turns out it was the right name but wrong woman. Her attorney could not get her released because the website was down and the judge was out of town till Monday. She's already filed suit. There seems to be an epidemic of callous ineptitude bordering on turpitude.
smashingpumpkins167 9/19/2018 4:26pm
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We blame the driver when somebody kills somebody else in a drunk driving accident. We blame the smoker when they die of lung cancer. But some people think we cant blame the addict when they die of an overdose, or end up in jail. Why is that? It's like they are some type of protected class now because there's an opioid epidemic going on.
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We blame the driver when somebody kills somebody else in a drunk driving accident. We blame the smoker when they die of lung cancer. But some...
We blame the driver when somebody kills somebody else in a drunk driving accident. We blame the smoker when they die of lung cancer. But some people think we cant blame the addict when they die of an overdose, or end up in jail. Why is that? It's like they are some type of protected class now because there's an opioid epidemic going on.
I can't speak for others but I never said that when an addicts behavior crosses over into the realm of illegality that proper measures shouldn't be taken to protect the populace. But there should be some real thought, on a national level, about prevention and effective rehab...what we have now ain't working and it's breaking the bank.

I can tell you for true...one's attitude changes when the addict is your wife, kid, brother, etc. If you deal with that...I don't know how you can look at a stranger in the same situation and chuck that person in the trash.

It's easy to be a black and white hard ass, That's what we humans do best cause we like things easy. Seeing that the world is technicolor and more complex than we can understand in a lifetime...that's tough....and scary for some folks.
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plowboy wrote:
I can't speak for others but I never said that when an addicts behavior crosses over into the realm of illegality that proper measures shouldn't be...
I can't speak for others but I never said that when an addicts behavior crosses over into the realm of illegality that proper measures shouldn't be taken to protect the populace. But there should be some real thought, on a national level, about prevention and effective rehab...what we have now ain't working and it's breaking the bank.

I can tell you for true...one's attitude changes when the addict is your wife, kid, brother, etc. If you deal with that...I don't know how you can look at a stranger in the same situation and chuck that person in the trash.

It's easy to be a black and white hard ass, That's what we humans do best cause we like things easy. Seeing that the world is technicolor and more complex than we can understand in a lifetime...that's tough....and scary for some folks.
It's really tricky, man. I have a family member that is a chain smoking alcoholic, I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for her. She complains about money problems, but who knows how much she spends on that liquor and cigarettes every day. She has quit before and has chosen start smoking again and drinking a lot. She has to decide to quit. She has to deal with it. I don't blame the cigarettes, beer, or liquor. She's had a hard life though, just like in Nico's case, and she might have to hit rock bottom before she can change. It's so complicated because we can't really take cigarettes, beer, or narcotics away just because some people misuse them.

It's the same with anything, I guess we are all just picking our poison. We can't blame the motorcycle if any of us end up disabled. We knew what we were doing when we got into it, and we are free to walk away at any time.

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UpTiTe wrote:
After reading the majority of these post, it is very obvious that 99% of you have no idea what painkillers do to you or how you...
After reading the majority of these post, it is very obvious that 99% of you have no idea what painkillers do to you or how you can get addicted to them without even wanting to be.
kxkid715 wrote:
Sir, you are wrong. I've had 26 broken bones in a 15 year period accompanied by 3 surgeries, a life flight and 5 concussions. I have...

Sir, you are wrong.

I've had 26 broken bones in a 15 year period accompanied by 3 surgeries, a life flight and 5 concussions.

I have been prescribed the standard pain killers for every one of those and had ample access to refills. And it looks like 99% of the people in this thread share a similar story, but CHOSE to not let the pain killers become an addiction. They CHOSE not to continue to use them. Every story is different, and every person has a different path, but it looks like 99% of the men in this thread DO indeed have an idea of what painkillers do, thus why they are not still on them, or battled the addiction.

Good job to those who have fought the fight. Respect.

Izzi- Man up.

mx317 wrote:
26 broken bones? You are doing something wrong.
Yeah he is living life! Good for him I say!
blockhead17 9/19/2018 6:23pm
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this seems to be a place for people to come and try and validate how great they are, I don’t drink, I never took drugs, I didn’t become addicted etc etc

Guess what, you aren’t Nico Izzy either!

Your opinion is the equivalent to a homeless person giving a homeowner mortgage advice...
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smashingpumpkins167 wrote:
We blame the driver when somebody kills somebody else in a drunk driving accident. We blame the smoker when they die of lung cancer. But some...
We blame the driver when somebody kills somebody else in a drunk driving accident. We blame the smoker when they die of lung cancer. But some people think we cant blame the addict when they die of an overdose, or end up in jail. Why is that? It's like they are some type of protected class now because there's an opioid epidemic going on.
plowboy wrote:
I can't speak for others but I never said that when an addicts behavior crosses over into the realm of illegality that proper measures shouldn't be...
I can't speak for others but I never said that when an addicts behavior crosses over into the realm of illegality that proper measures shouldn't be taken to protect the populace. But there should be some real thought, on a national level, about prevention and effective rehab...what we have now ain't working and it's breaking the bank.

I can tell you for true...one's attitude changes when the addict is your wife, kid, brother, etc. If you deal with that...I don't know how you can look at a stranger in the same situation and chuck that person in the trash.

It's easy to be a black and white hard ass, That's what we humans do best cause we like things easy. Seeing that the world is technicolor and more complex than we can understand in a lifetime...that's tough....and scary for some folks.
My sons mother went in to post pardum depression when he was born. Deep depression. Triggered her bi polar, borderline personality. I traveled for work at that time. Had been saving money to build my mr2 turbo. When i finally had my ledger at the number i needed to do the build, i went to my bank to pull it out of savings and put it in checking so i could start blowing money on my car.

Walk in my bank and find out i was broke..... she had spent over 150k in just over a year. The woman who was a finance genius for a multi million dollar music store and production company. Where did it all go? Cocaine, xanax, lorcets, meth.... friends in need, you name it.

I come home amd confront her about it. She laughs it off and admits to it all. Did not give a rats ass. This was my wife. Turns out she was banging 3 of my neighbors as well. We lived in a nice area, not the hood. Everyone was married. Put her in rehab. She met another pill head there. Got out, came home, stsrted all over again. Same thing. Divorced her. Her mom put her in rehab 4 more times over the next 6 years. She stole almost a quarter mil from her mom and her brother forging checks and stealing credit cards. That was 2002. She lives in a hotel now, her second kid lives with her mom. She turns tricks for meth and calls my son for “bus fare for a dr appointment” about once every 2 months. Cusses him out when he says no.

Granted, she has serious mental health issues, but she clearly has made a choice to be a junky. She wasnt born that way. Didnt get injured and addicted. She chose to use
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