Nico Izzi in trouble in Arkansas now...

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9/18/2018 4:57am
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Yes of course. Many times. Spiral fractured femur, sheared off lateral condial, 3 ACLs, pins in both ankles, 3 collar bones, ribs, etc. Pain is a...
Yes of course. Many times. Spiral fractured femur, sheared off lateral condial, 3 ACLs, pins in both ankles, 3 collar bones, ribs, etc. Pain is a part of life for everyone. I chose to do the activity that got me injured. I chose to take pills to not feel pain. I also chose to stop taking pills and just live with the pain and harden the fuck up. These were all 100% my choice. Just like stealing a family dog was 100% that dirt bags choice. Life is always black and white. Some just chose to think its not because it's easier that way.
Ok could you have made it after your surgery without pain medication? I'll agree to disagree with you because I understand what you're saying. We did...
Ok could you have made it after your surgery without pain medication? I'll agree to disagree with you because I understand what you're saying. We did choose to continue to ride knowing our condition, but I won't live with fear that I may or may not get hurt again. I chose to stop just like you did and then shattered my ankle, I must be a pussy because I relapsed.
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Hey partner I’ve broke my L1 and L2, Acl replaced, had pain meds and all sorts of shit.. all my family was worried I would become...
Hey partner I’ve broke my L1 and L2, Acl replaced, had pain meds and all sorts of shit.. all my family was worried I would become addicted.. I told them there’s no way in hell.. I took the meds only till I could manage pain.. yes I still hurt like hell and have meds in the cabinet that would easily make me feel calm and not walk like I need a walker.. but guess what I’ve got more to live for and I won’t let them destroy me.. I rode with Tyler Evans a lot back in the late 90 and early 2000.. when we all traveled to SX.. most don’t understand when the lights go out on your career some don’t adjust and they never find piece to fill that gap.. life is a choice sometimes it kicks you in the balls. Get up dust yourself off and move forward.. I still have demons and yes they sometimes make me very uneasy but I know tomorrow the light will shine and that’s all I need to calm down and know my wife and daughter need me just as much as I need them..
Ok...fellow addict what's your name? I got that Frank part down, shoot me your Instagram name please.
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9/18/2018 5:18am
RandyS wrote:
It is absolutely a choice and it takes away from diseases like cancer that are not a choice. Nobody is ever accountable, it's always someone else's...
It is absolutely a choice and it takes away from diseases like cancer that are not a choice. Nobody is ever accountable, it's always someone else's fault. And the weak can always find some so called expert willing to tell them it's not there fault.
Bingo.
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I'll pray for the guy, that's all anyone can do.
.kyle wrote:
No point wasting your energy on this numpty.

Instead, pray for the family to get their dog back.
The dog is in good hands now.
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its not like hes getting away with it, why all the hate?...

there are plenty suposedly 'serving the people" and 'captains' of industry types doing far far FAR worse and getting away with it..

but low hanging fruit is easy right?
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9/18/2018 6:32am
make1go wrote:
its not like hes getting away with it, why all the hate?... there are plenty suposedly 'serving the people" and 'captains' of industry types doing far...
its not like hes getting away with it, why all the hate?...

there are plenty suposedly 'serving the people" and 'captains' of industry types doing far far FAR worse and getting away with it..

but low hanging fruit is easy right?
far far FAR worse?

You got some examples of that?
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9/18/2018 6:47am
I see guys exactly like him every single day.

Some are addicts. Some are entitled a**holes who don’t give a rip about taking your stuff, stabbing someone, or commiting a home invasion.

He sounds like a bit of both.
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9/18/2018 8:56am
Flatliner wrote:
I see guys exactly like him every single day. Some are addicts. Some are entitled a**holes who don’t give a rip about taking your stuff, stabbing...
I see guys exactly like him every single day.

Some are addicts. Some are entitled a**holes who don’t give a rip about taking your stuff, stabbing someone, or commiting a home invasion.

He sounds like a bit of both.
This. Same here. I actually challenged one to get a job, make more of himself than what he was doing. His answer? Why should I? I can take whatever I want from people who have it already. And they’ll just get a new one from insurance so who cares?
Yet this same entitled asshole would play the “I’m an addict and a victim” card anytime he thought it would benefit him.
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9/18/2018 10:10am
RandyS wrote:
It is absolutely a choice and it takes away from diseases like cancer that are not a choice. Nobody is ever accountable, it's always someone else's...
It is absolutely a choice and it takes away from diseases like cancer that are not a choice. Nobody is ever accountable, it's always someone else's fault. And the weak can always find some so called expert willing to tell them it's not there fault.
If by so called experts you mean doctors than ok
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9/18/2018 4:11pm
make1go wrote:
its not like hes getting away with it, why all the hate?... there are plenty suposedly 'serving the people" and 'captains' of industry types doing far...
its not like hes getting away with it, why all the hate?...

there are plenty suposedly 'serving the people" and 'captains' of industry types doing far far FAR worse and getting away with it..

but low hanging fruit is easy right?
All the hate because it keeps happening... not like he was left out in the cold either.
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Is this life after a failed SX/MX career? Seem like a lot of guys that didn't do well with the money or career have major issues after the bright lights go out
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If you hate being addicted to drugs, you don't hide the fact that you are addicted. You get the help that you need.
If, on the other hand, you love the high that you get from drugs, you sneak around and hide the fact that you are doing drugs.
Personally, I have never even tried illicit drugs of any kind. That is a CHOICE that I have made. I will also never be an alcoholic, as I do not drink, at all, period. That is another CHOICE of mine. And yes, I have been badly injured, and used powerful opiates for a short period of time. However, I chose to stop taking them after a very short time. Had I become addicted in that brief period, I would not have hidden my addiction, I would have openly confronted it.
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9/18/2018 9:48pm
Kyle220 wrote:
It sucks everyone dogged JLaw so bad, at least he wasnt out ripping people off.
Uummmm......he LITERALLY ripped a part of someone's body off!!
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9/18/2018 9:56pm
just James wrote:
If you hate being addicted to drugs, you don't hide the fact that you are addicted. You get the help that you need. If, on the...
If you hate being addicted to drugs, you don't hide the fact that you are addicted. You get the help that you need.
If, on the other hand, you love the high that you get from drugs, you sneak around and hide the fact that you are doing drugs.
Personally, I have never even tried illicit drugs of any kind. That is a CHOICE that I have made. I will also never be an alcoholic, as I do not drink, at all, period. That is another CHOICE of mine. And yes, I have been badly injured, and used powerful opiates for a short period of time. However, I chose to stop taking them after a very short time. Had I become addicted in that brief period, I would not have hidden my addiction, I would have openly confronted it.
You can’t really say what you “would do” if you have never even been close to being in their shoes.
For many addiction is not a conscious decision, I believe that if they go to rehab and get their shit together and then Relapse - that is a conscious decision.
It’s easy to sit here and judge these guys but no one on here would know what it would be like to have everything you ever wanted, believe you are destined for greatness and then lose it.
I don’t agree with the crime that comes along with addiction but I feel sympathy for the people that fall into addiction unwillingly, to say they should just seek help, it’s not that easy - there people start to enjoy the lifestyle and don’t want to change.
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9/18/2018 10:08pm
Flatliner wrote:
I see guys exactly like him every single day. Some are addicts. Some are entitled a**holes who don’t give a rip about taking your stuff, stabbing...
I see guys exactly like him every single day.

Some are addicts. Some are entitled a**holes who don’t give a rip about taking your stuff, stabbing someone, or commiting a home invasion.

He sounds like a bit of both.
omalley wrote:
This. Same here. I actually challenged one to get a job, make more of himself than what he was doing. His answer? Why should I? I...
This. Same here. I actually challenged one to get a job, make more of himself than what he was doing. His answer? Why should I? I can take whatever I want from people who have it already. And they’ll just get a new one from insurance so who cares?
Yet this same entitled asshole would play the “I’m an addict and a victim” card anytime he thought it would benefit him.

"There is no good or bad, just thinking makes it so"

~Shakespeare
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make1go wrote:
its not like hes getting away with it, why all the hate?... there are plenty suposedly 'serving the people" and 'captains' of industry types doing far...
its not like hes getting away with it, why all the hate?...

there are plenty suposedly 'serving the people" and 'captains' of industry types doing far far FAR worse and getting away with it..

but low hanging fruit is easy right?
ns503 wrote:
far far FAR worse?

You got some examples of that?
are you really that naive?
or just really really stupid?

either way, educate yourself,
i dont have the time nor the inclination.
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Ya the whole second chance thing,
Gotta earn it, i mean i thought barcia was a spoiled prick, then he didnt have that factory ride, bucked up, got his own bike went out prepared to whole heartedly sink or swim and he earned that second chance.
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9/19/2018 2:02am
make1go wrote:
its not like hes getting away with it, why all the hate?... there are plenty suposedly 'serving the people" and 'captains' of industry types doing far...
its not like hes getting away with it, why all the hate?...

there are plenty suposedly 'serving the people" and 'captains' of industry types doing far far FAR worse and getting away with it..

but low hanging fruit is easy right?
ns503 wrote:
far far FAR worse?

You got some examples of that?
make1go wrote:
are you really that naive?
or just really really stupid?

either way, educate yourself,
i dont have the time nor the inclination.
WTF, can't take it that someone asked for you to back up your claims a bit? Who are these captains?
9/19/2018 3:39am
ns503 wrote:
far far FAR worse?

You got some examples of that?
make1go wrote:
are you really that naive?
or just really really stupid?

either way, educate yourself,
i dont have the time nor the inclination.
WTF, can't take it that someone asked for you to back up your claims a bit? Who are these captains?
He might be talking about George Bush & his war crimes..?
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9/19/2018 3:52am
make1go wrote:
its not like hes getting away with it, why all the hate?... there are plenty suposedly 'serving the people" and 'captains' of industry types doing far...
its not like hes getting away with it, why all the hate?...

there are plenty suposedly 'serving the people" and 'captains' of industry types doing far far FAR worse and getting away with it..

but low hanging fruit is easy right?
ns503 wrote:
far far FAR worse?

You got some examples of that?
make1go wrote:
are you really that naive?
or just really really stupid?

either way, educate yourself,
i dont have the time nor the inclination.
You're the one that put it out there. So back it up.

So who are those serving the people, and captains of industry, that are doing stuff far far FAR worse than this and getting away with it - and what is it exactly that they are doing?

I'll make it easier - you don't have to name their names, position will do. There are 'plenty' of them, so it should be cake.
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9/19/2018 5:26am Edited Date/Time 9/19/2018 5:27am
MX-LIFE. wrote:
Is this life after a failed SX/MX career? Seem like a lot of guys that didn't do well with the money or career have major issues...
Is this life after a failed SX/MX career? Seem like a lot of guys that didn't do well with the money or career have major issues after the bright lights go out
Failed MX career? Would you say Roncada had a failed career? Mike Healey? I have news for you, Its called pain meds, and you'd be blown away how many riders have/had a battle with them. One very successful rider recently had a battle, but he wasn't thrown out ith the trash like Izzy was.

Izzy didn't choose to be an addict, he was a naive 17 year old kid who wanted to keep his ride, he even begged his team for help, but none was given because they didn't want him anymore.

Mitch should be given an award for saving Roncada, its a shame Nicos manager didn't do the same.
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9/19/2018 5:51am
ns503 wrote:
far far FAR worse?

You got some examples of that?
make1go wrote:
are you really that naive?
or just really really stupid?

either way, educate yourself,
i dont have the time nor the inclination.
ns503 wrote:
You're the one that put it out there. So back it up. So who are those serving the people, and captains of industry, that are doing...
You're the one that put it out there. So back it up.

So who are those serving the people, and captains of industry, that are doing stuff far far FAR worse than this and getting away with it - and what is it exactly that they are doing?

I'll make it easier - you don't have to name their names, position will do. There are 'plenty' of them, so it should be cake.
Well, any doctor that lets any human being die or suffer because he can't pay the money the doctor wants is there imo. Insurance CEOs, come on, those guys get the government to require it and then charge to the point they live like kings. Do the makers of drugs that heal deserve tens of millions of dollars a year in salary? Do they? What about the head of The Red Cross. Look up what that guy makes. Or The United Way.
I sometimes wonder how they sleep.
And don't get me started on government officials.
Yes, it's not exclusive, the ripping off, to the low hanging fruit, by any means.
But that for sure doesn't give him a pass.
Just my opinion.
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WTF, can't take it that someone asked for you to back up your claims a bit? Who are these captains?
you: fully astroturfed?
and that makes you thick..?.
again educate yourself.?
or
OR
you can think izzie is the worst guy on the planet...?
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UpTiTe wrote:
Failed MX career? Would you say Roncada had a failed career? Mike Healey? I have news for you, Its called pain meds, and you'd be blown...
Failed MX career? Would you say Roncada had a failed career? Mike Healey? I have news for you, Its called pain meds, and you'd be blown away how many riders have/had a battle with them. One very successful rider recently had a battle, but he wasn't thrown out ith the trash like Izzy was.

Izzy didn't choose to be an addict, he was a naive 17 year old kid who wanted to keep his ride, he even begged his team for help, but none was given because they didn't want him anymore.

Mitch should be given an award for saving Roncada, its a shame Nicos manager didn't do the same.
So thousands of football players go through the same thing. Think Aaron Roger's was shot up at halftime opening wknd ? Addiction is a choice and it comes down to mind of matter. Nico had plenty of people trying to help him recover. Not only is he a addict but he sounds like a class a douche. Let him get some time behind bars and see if he can get his shit together why he reflects. I will cheer for anybody fighting addiction and I have a ex gf go through the same thing. But her like Nico chose not to fight addiction or get help. Now she is going to pay the same price as Nico. Comes a time when you say fk it and get help the hard way.
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Well, any doctor that lets any human being die or suffer because he can't pay the money the doctor wants is there imo. Insurance CEOs, come...
Well, any doctor that lets any human being die or suffer because he can't pay the money the doctor wants is there imo. Insurance CEOs, come on, those guys get the government to require it and then charge to the point they live like kings. Do the makers of drugs that heal deserve tens of millions of dollars a year in salary? Do they? What about the head of The Red Cross. Look up what that guy makes. Or The United Way.
I sometimes wonder how they sleep.
And don't get me started on government officials.
Yes, it's not exclusive, the ripping off, to the low hanging fruit, by any means.
But that for sure doesn't give him a pass.
Just my opinion.
i never gave him a pass, i hate theft and scams all that shit...

but mostly i hate high level crime and corruption.
..the pricks who have stolen enough to pay for a wall of lawyers and hide shit offshore etc
i said hes been caught and charged,
i doubt hes in a good place living it up on a private yacht that those other cnts are.

ive been living in a "developing' country for 10 yrs, you get a birds eye view to that shit because they get away with murder, literally..

check out the red bull heirs little game of hide an seek and why he is, if you want something that hits home with all the redbull money spent in this sport...

Interpol issues arrest warrant for Red Bull heir over 2012 hit-and-run incident in Bangkok
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/30/interpol-issues-arrest-warr…

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MX-LIFE. wrote:
Is this life after a failed SX/MX career? Seem like a lot of guys that didn't do well with the money or career have major issues...
Is this life after a failed SX/MX career? Seem like a lot of guys that didn't do well with the money or career have major issues after the bright lights go out
UpTiTe wrote:
Failed MX career? Would you say Roncada had a failed career? Mike Healey? I have news for you, Its called pain meds, and you'd be blown...
Failed MX career? Would you say Roncada had a failed career? Mike Healey? I have news for you, Its called pain meds, and you'd be blown away how many riders have/had a battle with them. One very successful rider recently had a battle, but he wasn't thrown out ith the trash like Izzy was.

Izzy didn't choose to be an addict, he was a naive 17 year old kid who wanted to keep his ride, he even begged his team for help, but none was given because they didn't want him anymore.

Mitch should be given an award for saving Roncada, its a shame Nicos manager didn't do the same.
You're an idiot! It's people like you that support the pussification of today's youth!
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9/19/2018 7:08am
MX-LIFE. wrote:
Is this life after a failed SX/MX career? Seem like a lot of guys that didn't do well with the money or career have major issues...
Is this life after a failed SX/MX career? Seem like a lot of guys that didn't do well with the money or career have major issues after the bright lights go out
UpTiTe wrote:
Failed MX career? Would you say Roncada had a failed career? Mike Healey? I have news for you, Its called pain meds, and you'd be blown...
Failed MX career? Would you say Roncada had a failed career? Mike Healey? I have news for you, Its called pain meds, and you'd be blown away how many riders have/had a battle with them. One very successful rider recently had a battle, but he wasn't thrown out ith the trash like Izzy was.

Izzy didn't choose to be an addict, he was a naive 17 year old kid who wanted to keep his ride, he even begged his team for help, but none was given because they didn't want him anymore.

Mitch should be given an award for saving Roncada, its a shame Nicos manager didn't do the same.
Trickamoto wrote:
You're an idiot! It's people like you that support the pussification of today's youth!
X2, never their fault. Point fingers. Thats why criminals and addicts do what they do. Always someone there to defend them. And blame everybody else. Funny, pretty sure opinions would change if izzi was breaking in their house at 3am. Stealing their shit, or assaulting a family member.
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I am more surprised by the non super stars who don't fall into these traps than I am by the ones that do. Hitting your head on the ground multiple times during adolescence, having multiple surgeries and zero direction when the racing is over probably contributes a fair amount to their "poor decision making".

Judging them is lame especially the self righteous jerks who think they would have done differently if they were in the others boots.
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9/19/2018 7:53am
MX-LIFE. wrote:
Is this life after a failed SX/MX career? Seem like a lot of guys that didn't do well with the money or career have major issues...
Is this life after a failed SX/MX career? Seem like a lot of guys that didn't do well with the money or career have major issues after the bright lights go out
UpTiTe wrote:
Failed MX career? Would you say Roncada had a failed career? Mike Healey? I have news for you, Its called pain meds, and you'd be blown...
Failed MX career? Would you say Roncada had a failed career? Mike Healey? I have news for you, Its called pain meds, and you'd be blown away how many riders have/had a battle with them. One very successful rider recently had a battle, but he wasn't thrown out ith the trash like Izzy was.

Izzy didn't choose to be an addict, he was a naive 17 year old kid who wanted to keep his ride, he even begged his team for help, but none was given because they didn't want him anymore.

Mitch should be given an award for saving Roncada, its a shame Nicos manager didn't do the same.
Trickamoto wrote:
You're an idiot! It's people like you that support the pussification of today's youth!
Idiot? Lmao.

Here's the thing, when he started to figure out that he was getting addicted to painkillers, he cried out to the people that were supposed to help him, they did nothing for him but fire him.

I'm not supporting him one bit, I think the kid belongs in prison, but that's not the point of my arguement.

My point is that everybody wants to hammer on this kid for the choice of being an addict, again he did not choose to be an addict. Everybody's hammering on how horrible of a kid this guy is, meanwhile in another thread a guy kills himself and he's a hero with exactly the same additions.
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9/19/2018 7:54am
gabrielito wrote:
I am more surprised by the non super stars who don't fall into these traps than I am by the ones that do. Hitting your head...
I am more surprised by the non super stars who don't fall into these traps than I am by the ones that do. Hitting your head on the ground multiple times during adolescence, having multiple surgeries and zero direction when the racing is over probably contributes a fair amount to their "poor decision making".

Judging them is lame especially the self righteous jerks who think they would have done differently if they were in the others boots.
Hi, I'm Slipdog....

I've raced my entire life, first concussion at 11 racing the 60 class, multiple through my career with some as quick reboots and some KTFO. I've had multiple surgeries on wrists, heels, and shoulders. Made many poor decisions. Never... Never stole, robbed or became a junkie. I have no criminal record. I went through hard times too, but I chose to rise above. I was in the other boots as a pro that didn't live up to expectations as a racer and I did differently...
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