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8/8/2018 9:22pm
rc4187 wrote:
Team Puerto Rico:
Anderson
Musquin
A. Martin
agn5009 wrote:
Baggett, AMart and Ronnie Mac (unfortunately)
Is this true? I've read a member from that team was sort of unbelievable. I couldn't see that happening
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Jt$ wrote:
Or because this is the best team we have had in a few years (450 champ, 4th in 450 chase, 250 champ), not to mention the...
Or because this is the best team we have had in a few years (450 champ, 4th in 450 chase, 250 champ), not to mention the small detail about it being on a track that all of these guys have raced and won on individually. Oh, and only one rider on one of the contending teams has ever ridden this track (Ferrandis). And finally, as a bonus, France left their best rider off the team. Other than those obscure footnotes, why would we ever consider it could be different in 2018?
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You don't have the 450 champ just yet. I believe DeStouwer is simply saying don't count your chickens. Paulin and Febvre have led France to victory...
You don't have the 450 champ just yet.

I believe DeStouwer is simply saying don't count your chickens. Paulin and Febvre have led France to victory on numerous occasions, and they have the ability to do it again
Jt$ wrote:
Defending 450 champ and points leader. As far as his comments, in doing so, he made a point to say that the USA wasn't going to...
Defending 450 champ and points leader. As far as his comments, in doing so, he made a point to say that the USA wasn't going to win in his last sentence. He is counting his proverbial chickens that the USA will lose also.
No that's not what I meant. Sorry, but English isn't my first language. Smile I meant that many Americans seem to believe the road to victory became a lot easier, but imo that isn't the case. France still has a very good team, Britain, Netherlands and Belgium will play along aswell, and anything can happen in a race. RG1 said what I meant.
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8/9/2018 12:33am
rc4187 wrote:
Team Puerto Rico:
Anderson
Musquin
A. Martin
agn5009 wrote:
Baggett, AMart and Ronnie Mac (unfortunately)

Ronnie can also eat more asses as a team manager, advisor, coordinator. Plus it is more time for beer too !

Just imagine if the team goes half or full goon and win ...
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8/9/2018 12:38am
Baggett
AMart
Musquin

That sounds pretty good for a podium too !

And it would look great too for ktm to showcase their 3 professional teams in the us (factory red bul, rmatv, tld)
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8/9/2018 5:15am
France about to start WW3 on themselves Laughing
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8/9/2018 5:18am
Wonder what would happen now if the French needed to replace one of their riders between now and the MXoN.

Would they call Marv up? Would he answer the call?

Crazy decision to not pick Marv. Though if France still come through and win again the team boss will look like a genius. If they crash and burn I am sure the French fans will still support his decision Silly
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8/9/2018 5:59am
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Wonder what would happen now if the French needed to replace one of their riders between now and the MXoN. Would they call Marv up? Would...
Wonder what would happen now if the French needed to replace one of their riders between now and the MXoN.

Would they call Marv up? Would he answer the call?

Crazy decision to not pick Marv. Though if France still come through and win again the team boss will look like a genius. If they crash and burn I am sure the French fans will still support his decision Silly
Thought the same thing. It'd almost be the bird wouldn't it?
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8/9/2018 6:14am
RG1 wrote:
You don't have the 450 champ just yet. I believe DeStouwer is simply saying don't count your chickens. Paulin and Febvre have led France to victory...
You don't have the 450 champ just yet.

I believe DeStouwer is simply saying don't count your chickens. Paulin and Febvre have led France to victory on numerous occasions, and they have the ability to do it again
Jt$ wrote:
Defending 450 champ and points leader. As far as his comments, in doing so, he made a point to say that the USA wasn't going to...
Defending 450 champ and points leader. As far as his comments, in doing so, he made a point to say that the USA wasn't going to win in his last sentence. He is counting his proverbial chickens that the USA will lose also.
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No that's not what I meant. Sorry, but English isn't my first language. :) I meant that many Americans seem to believe the road to victory...
No that's not what I meant. Sorry, but English isn't my first language. Smile I meant that many Americans seem to believe the road to victory became a lot easier, but imo that isn't the case. France still has a very good team, Britain, Netherlands and Belgium will play along aswell, and anything can happen in a race. RG1 said what I meant.
My apologies, then. I think France is much weaker without Musquin but you are very correct in your assessment that nothing is certain at that event. Who could have imagined Germany winning a few years ago? This event is always chaotic. Maggiora's last moto had 3-4 different teams winning within 4 laps.
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8/9/2018 6:18am
Might actually work out well for Marv. He's been the bad guy getting boo'd since SX. Now people start to feel bad for the guy about getting railroaded by the French federation. This might help get him back into the fans good graces.
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8/9/2018 6:24am
Two words...Puerto Rico. I don't think it's actually possible considering he is either here on a visa or has a green card and I'm not sure of their requirements. How funny would that be though?
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8/9/2018 6:26am
wonder if marvs gonna go and just hang out..like a regular spectator..prob will be kinda awkward if he ran into the French team there.
8/9/2018 7:04am
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Wow I would understand these picks if the race was on Europe. But at Red Bud. Seriously? Congrats on the win team US I guess Looking...
Wow
I would understand these picks if the race was on Europe.
But at Red Bud. Seriously?

Congrats on the win team US I guess
Looking forward to monster cup Blink
I have a feeling Marv is too
8/9/2018 7:14am
From Musquin:

Hello everyone,

As you might have heard already thru the video posted by the French Federation today, I’ve had the unpleasant surprise to find out that I wasn’t picked to race the MX of Nations for Team France.

I think it’s now important that I say a few words about what Jacques Bolle, President of the French Federation, said at the team announcement were the reasons and factors they looked at in selecting the team this year.

First of all, the motivation… For the record, the French coach came to America for the Red Bud National and spoke with me there to make sure I was motivated and available to race Des Nations. I confirmed I was 100% motivated and that being teammate with Dylan Ferrandis would be great! Also, what greater motivation is there for me to perform than to race in front of the world here in the US, on a track I just won? If that’s not motivation enough then I don’t know what would be!

Jacques Bolle also talks about the importance for the rider to be healthy and performing good around this time of the year. Seriously, what do you want me to say to that… ? My results speak for themselves. I finished 2nd in the AMA SX Championship this year and I’m currently a title contender for the outdoor championship with three races left! I won Red Bud this year and I’ve been racing at Red Bud for the last 8years…..

I’ll save everyone time and not go into details about the planning and logistics that have already gone in to be part of that race from either my side, my Red Bull KTM teams side, the factory, my sponsors and or the rest of my crew….

To me it’s sad to be overlooked again especially given the race is going to be here in the US where I compete almost every weekend for the last 8 years now and against many top riders that I am sure will be selected on the US home team. But I do really want to thank everyone who has and continues to support me and thank all the French, American, and all the other fans who have shown their support for me after this announcement. It means a lot to me.
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8/9/2018 7:16am
Might actually work out well for Marv. He's been the bad guy getting boo'd since SX. Now people start to feel bad for the guy about...
Might actually work out well for Marv. He's been the bad guy getting boo'd since SX. Now people start to feel bad for the guy about getting railroaded by the French federation. This might help get him back into the fans good graces.
Thats what I'm thinking. Personally, I feel bad for the guy even though I'm not really a fan. Gotta respect Marvin for coming over here to chase a dream, working hard, and having success all while representing his country. Then he gets shunned on the biggest race since he's been in the US.
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8/9/2018 7:18am
There's no way in hell that is an official statement from Marvin Musquin.

He didn't say "I try my best" one time.

Not one single time.... I call bullshit.
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8/9/2018 7:31am
Might actually work out well for Marv. He's been the bad guy getting boo'd since SX. Now people start to feel bad for the guy about...
Might actually work out well for Marv. He's been the bad guy getting boo'd since SX. Now people start to feel bad for the guy about getting railroaded by the French federation. This might help get him back into the fans good graces.
Don't think he feels that way. I'd rather be boo'ed at by a couple of idiots, race the Nations and give 'em hell than get a cheer or pad on the shoulder from those same idiots and stay on the couch.
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8/9/2018 7:42am
A real bummer for Marv. Definitely feel like there is other things going on in the background , that he doesn't have any control of. He is to good to be passed up at this race. Especially since he just won there.
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8/9/2018 8:14am
I think Marv will make a performance based statement at Unadilla this weekend. Not that it matters, but I've never seen MM25 mad. He's rightfully pissed now.. It might add some more fire come Moto time. Happy to be headed there in the AM.
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8/9/2018 8:44am
Marv turned them down last year... French don't chose him this year. Typical French but they did the right thing if you ask me..
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8/9/2018 9:03am Edited Date/Time 8/9/2018 9:10am
OT wrote:
Marv turned them down last year... French don't chose him this year. Typical French but they did the right thing if you ask me..
If I remember well I think he had a bad knee that needed to heal to avoid a surgery.

But you are right, the federation may still be upset about it because last year Ferrandis got injured, then the replacing rider Paturel got injured, then they were in a hole and didn't/couldn't pick Musquin to finally chose Charlier.

The issue is a bit of transparency of the real reasons would not hurt because not selectioning the rider that just won RedBud in 450 this year is not logical and something almost nobody would have thought.

Do you imagine the meltdown here if Tomac was not selected ??? I think people would put the highly respected DeCoster's head on a pole !!!
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8/9/2018 9:10am
If I was one of the guys on the team......seems like I would want the best chance of winning....
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8/9/2018 9:22am Edited Date/Time 8/9/2018 9:22am
DoubleA wrote:
France about to start WW3 on themselves :laugh: [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/08/09/279548/s1200_38799989_502151130207090_1870687651611279360_n.jpg[/img]
France about to start WW3 on themselves Laughing
Lol sorby of all people
8/9/2018 9:37am
I recommend highly lebig.fr latest podcast which is a phone interview of DV. U have to speak french though...it's actually quite funny!

Apart from the obvious, that the decision os ludicrous, he makes a really good point. The federation is walking on water...they've won 5 in a row and, in their minds, don't think they can do anything wrong. The problem is it ignores last year was a mudder with team C USA team, 2016 USA nearly clinched it without a 4th rider if it weren't for Webb throwing it a way (so it was lucky)...and b team from USA, 2015 Marvin was there...but it still wasn't an A USA team.

This year it's a dam strong USA team...they really need to send their best team...but the federation is thinking the Paulin Febvre combo worked last time with Marvin....so why not now?

If they are doing this cause he turned them down last year...it goes to show how immature they are. This shouldnt be personal...it should be about picking the best team. Imagine if Roger D did that by excluding Tomac cause he missed last year? No one cares....u should always select the best team.

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8/9/2018 9:48am
I’ll guess again that this is just the French federation wanting to stick it to Marv for declining in previous years. Kind of like there were...
I’ll guess again that this is just the French federation wanting to stick it to Marv for declining in previous years. Kind of like there were people last year saying Tomac shouldn’t be picked this year since he has turned it down so many times.

Too bad that considering the circumstaces this decision will likely bite the federation in it’s ass. Should have swallowed their pride and picked Marv.
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The only one I'm aware of he skipped was to have surgery on his wrist.
Oh yeah that’s true, that was the case one year. Still, you could argue he has been the best French rider for years and yet only decided to go once during the current winning streak, which was when the race was in France. Can’t remember if he went regulary in the years before that. I just remember that there has been speculation surrounding him not going in the past, kind of like there has been with Eli in recent years.
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8/9/2018 9:55am
David Vuillemin just tweeted that Marv has US citizenship so he should race for Puerto Rico with Baggett and Anderson.
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8/9/2018 10:10am
Donovan759 wrote:
There's no way in hell that is an official statement from Marvin Musquin. He didn't say "I try my best" one time. Not one single time...
There's no way in hell that is an official statement from Marvin Musquin.

He didn't say "I try my best" one time.

Not one single time.... I call bullshit.
really ? Sad you must be a sad person
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I recommend highly lebig.fr latest podcast which is a phone interview of DV. U have to speak french though...it's actually quite funny! Apart from the obvious...
I recommend highly lebig.fr latest podcast which is a phone interview of DV. U have to speak french though...it's actually quite funny!

Apart from the obvious, that the decision os ludicrous, he makes a really good point. The federation is walking on water...they've won 5 in a row and, in their minds, don't think they can do anything wrong. The problem is it ignores last year was a mudder with team C USA team, 2016 USA nearly clinched it without a 4th rider if it weren't for Webb throwing it a way (so it was lucky)...and b team from USA, 2015 Marvin was there...but it still wasn't an A USA team.

This year it's a dam strong USA team...they really need to send their best team...but the federation is thinking the Paulin Febvre combo worked last time with Marvin....so why not now?

If they are doing this cause he turned them down last year...it goes to show how immature they are. This shouldnt be personal...it should be about picking the best team. Imagine if Roger D did that by excluding Tomac cause he missed last year? No one cares....u should always select the best team.

The French won in 16 because Coldenhof get past by Searle and Bobryshev a few corners for the finish.
France won with one point difference, if it was tie the Netherlands still had won.
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8/9/2018 10:30am
I don't even believe Marvin is French, he ain't afraid to fight. Cool
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8/9/2018 10:47am
Donovan759 wrote:
There's no way in hell that is an official statement from Marvin Musquin. He didn't say "I try my best" one time. Not one single time...
There's no way in hell that is an official statement from Marvin Musquin.

He didn't say "I try my best" one time.

Not one single time.... I call bullshit.
really ? Sad you must be a sad person
You have been quite the argumentative little one this week.

It was a joke. Relax.

I'm bummed for Marv. I hope he gets on the PR team and wins both his motos.
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