Jason Anderson hurt?

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Drtbykr 5/31/2018 12:47pm
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Complete RS Management blunder, and the F1 analogy is bang on.



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cheers_22 5/31/2018 12:47pm
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FuzzyLogic wrote:
DV tweeted out something of the likes that Anderson left and might be injured so it probably does have merit. It won't be long until pros...
DV tweeted out something of the likes that Anderson left and might be injured so it probably does have merit. It won't be long until pros are no longer riding with the general public.
They shouldn’t be. They need to separate the guys that don’t have any business being out there.
mattyhamz2 5/31/2018 12:48pm
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hamncheeze wrote:
Meanwhile Tomac pounding out laps in privacy of Colorado and Marvin hammering down with Aldon in Florida. Why these guys risk riding on open tracks is...
Meanwhile Tomac pounding out laps in privacy of Colorado and Marvin hammering down with Aldon in Florida. Why these guys risk riding on open tracks is beyond me. And why can't Glen Helen just have two 1 hour sessions on Thursdays for pros only?? That place seems so greedy....already selling every square inch at the National, then letting every squid in so Cal on for practice. JFC.
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I never had an issue when I was riding GH on Thursday's, Perris/Milestone on Wednesday's. It was never an issue until recently. I expect teams will...
I never had an issue when I was riding GH on Thursday's, Perris/Milestone on Wednesday's. It was never an issue until recently.

I expect teams will start renting the track on certain days and will move back east next year. Can't take the chance of some local goon taking out your star rider. Or in Husky's case, both of their 450 riders.
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I've seen way too many sketchy incidents the past five years or so at all those tracks with pros involved. Some specifically are quite bad at...
I've seen way too many sketchy incidents the past five years or so at all those tracks with pros involved. Some specifically are quite bad at handling the general public on the track...laptimes end up meaning more than safety.
It's been a long while since I chased the pros while getting ready for CMC Golden State or Trans-Cal. Since 2010 or 2011. Back then there weren't nearly the issues, but it seemed most of us knew to hold our lines and let the pros go around us. And others would get off the track and watch RV, RD and the rest. I guess things have changed in the last 7-8 years.
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tprice07 5/31/2018 12:49pm
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Here's a pretty simple fix.... rent the track out on Thursdays for $950 split that across a couple teams if you have to. Sure seems stupid to put your multi million dollar rider on a track with amateurs.

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ML512 5/31/2018 12:50pm
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TeamGreen wrote:
This...this here...and I'm quite sure that Michael's got it right...so, as I was saying...this?

Kinda chaps my ass.
It really chaps my ass and I made my voice heard multiple times when I was there to staff that them running that board is BS if they won't follow the main guidelines of the foundation. I will admit, I have zero clue if it's still present at the entrance at this time. I only go there for bike intros and the National as the safety aspect means something to me.
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It's hard to understand not having essential safety basics like flaggers. If it cost money, pass it through the riders. Tracks should charge what it takes to do run a track with essential safety elements, and people should be willing to pay it.
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Someone must be blamed! Cool
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Forty 5/31/2018 12:58pm
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The sport can not afford any more injuries. Sucks for all involved.
mattyhamz2 5/31/2018 1:02pm
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FreshTopEnd wrote:
It's hard to understand not having essential safety basics like flaggers. If it cost money, pass it through the riders. Tracks should charge what it takes...
It's hard to understand not having essential safety basics like flaggers. If it cost money, pass it through the riders. Tracks should charge what it takes to do run a track with essential safety elements, and people should be willing to pay it.
All the local tracks here have bumped us up to $30 per rider starting last year and I haven't seen a difference at any of the tracks that I've been to. At least LACR has flaggers. Last time I was at Comp Edge, they didn't. Zaca never did either. No medics were present as well.
overtheedge 5/31/2018 1:03pm
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tprice07 wrote:
Here's a pretty simple fix.... rent the track out on Thursdays for $950 split that across a couple teams if you have to. Sure seems stupid...
Here's a pretty simple fix.... rent the track out on Thursdays for $950 split that across a couple teams if you have to. Sure seems stupid to put your multi million dollar rider on a track with amateurs.
Wait, it's only $950 to rent out GH for an entire day? That sounds unbelievably cheap, and would be a drop in the bucket for any of the factory teams.
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BobPA 5/31/2018 1:03pm
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FuzzyLogic wrote:
I have a feeling that whether it is a twisted ankle or broken tib/fib the official word will be "out until after the nationals"
Why would you think that?
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jeffro503 5/31/2018 1:06pm
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Track and Trail wrote:
Weird. My local track in Minnesota provides flaggers on practice days. They also used to have separate practices for spodes and minis. Not sure what I'm...
Weird. My local track in Minnesota provides flaggers on practice days. They also used to have separate practices for spodes and minis. Not sure what I'm missing with the so-cal system being the way it is. Why don't tracks give free practice to some people who would flag in return? Why not rotate slow and fast rider's time on the track to keep them separate? Are there so few riders that no one cares about safety?
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Glen Helen has gone without flaggers, EMTs, and split practices for years...it's fairly ridiculous. The other tracks in the SoCal area have flaggers and EMTs on...
Glen Helen has gone without flaggers, EMTs, and split practices for years...it's fairly ridiculous.

The other tracks in the SoCal area have flaggers and EMTs on sight. Splitting practice has become a thing of the past sadly.
That is pretty damn nuts , for anyone really. Especially for a super fast factory rider. Seems like a pretty big risk.
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huck 5/31/2018 1:07pm
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FreshTopEnd wrote:
It's hard to understand not having essential safety basics like flaggers. If it cost money, pass it through the riders. Tracks should charge what it takes...
It's hard to understand not having essential safety basics like flaggers. If it cost money, pass it through the riders. Tracks should charge what it takes to do run a track with essential safety elements, and people should be willing to pay it.
To be fair, Glen Helen isn't the only one that doesn't have flaggers. Does Milestone? Cahuilla Creek?
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ML512 5/31/2018 1:11pm
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FreshTopEnd wrote:
It's hard to understand not having essential safety basics like flaggers. If it cost money, pass it through the riders. Tracks should charge what it takes...
It's hard to understand not having essential safety basics like flaggers. If it cost money, pass it through the riders. Tracks should charge what it takes to do run a track with essential safety elements, and people should be willing to pay it.
huck wrote:
To be fair, Glen Helen isn't the only one that doesn't have flaggers. Does Milestone? Cahuilla Creek?
Milestone, Perris, Cahuilla, and Pala have flaggers/EMTs on site.
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ML512 5/31/2018 1:12pm
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tprice07 wrote:
Here's a pretty simple fix.... rent the track out on Thursdays for $950 split that across a couple teams if you have to. Sure seems stupid...
Here's a pretty simple fix.... rent the track out on Thursdays for $950 split that across a couple teams if you have to. Sure seems stupid to put your multi million dollar rider on a track with amateurs.
overtheedge wrote:
Wait, it's only $950 to rent out GH for an entire day? That sounds unbelievably cheap, and would be a drop in the bucket for any...
Wait, it's only $950 to rent out GH for an entire day? That sounds unbelievably cheap, and would be a drop in the bucket for any of the factory teams.
They would lose money compared to a standard Thursday. At $25 a pop a standard Thursday has I’d guess around 80-100 paying entries during this time of the year.
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huck 5/31/2018 1:16pm
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ML512 wrote:
Milestone, Perris, Cahuilla, and Pala have flaggers/EMTs on site.
Is that new? When I was there (albeit it was a couple years ago) Milestone and Cahuilla didn't.
mattyhamz2 5/31/2018 1:19pm
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ML512 wrote:
Milestone, Perris, Cahuilla, and Pala have flaggers/EMTs on site.
huck wrote:
Is that new? When I was there (albeit it was a couple years ago) Milestone and Cahuilla didn't.
As long as I can remember, Milestone has had flaggers. Way too many people ride there. That place with no flaggers would be so dangerous!

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aroark247 5/31/2018 1:20pm
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peelout wrote:
it was a little too well written, so i gave it the MXA touch [quote]Like a norminal Thursday at Glen Helen the PROS were in full...
it was a little too well written, so i gave it the MXA touch

Like a norminal Thursday at Glen Helen the PROS were in full forcetesting for THE Nationls unfortunately, someone, crashed off the single-to-table before the finish line people were flagging riders around the jump when JASON Andersens as well as the another riders was all going round the rider at a pace WHEN JUSTIN approached teh downed rider other riders was on the right side of him and all a sudden veered right OVER! into Josh as if her the rider did not see Jason and hates HIM taking them both out
You are a savage, Peelout.
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ML512 wrote:
They would lose money compared to a standard Thursday. At $25 a pop a standard Thursday has I’d guess around 80-100 paying entries during this time...
They would lose money compared to a standard Thursday. At $25 a pop a standard Thursday has I’d guess around 80-100 paying entries during this time of the year.
Lets put it into perspective, for the maximum amount of $2500.00 Glen Helen is willing to risk the lives of up to 100 people.

Seems kind of crazy huh?
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tprice07 5/31/2018 1:25pm
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tprice07 wrote:
Here's a pretty simple fix.... rent the track out on Thursdays for $950 split that across a couple teams if you have to. Sure seems stupid...
Here's a pretty simple fix.... rent the track out on Thursdays for $950 split that across a couple teams if you have to. Sure seems stupid to put your multi million dollar rider on a track with amateurs.
overtheedge wrote:
Wait, it's only $950 to rent out GH for an entire day? That sounds unbelievably cheap, and would be a drop in the bucket for any...
Wait, it's only $950 to rent out GH for an entire day? That sounds unbelievably cheap, and would be a drop in the bucket for any of the factory teams.
ML512 wrote:
They would lose money compared to a standard Thursday. At $25 a pop a standard Thursday has I’d guess around 80-100 paying entries during this time...
They would lose money compared to a standard Thursday. At $25 a pop a standard Thursday has I’d guess around 80-100 paying entries during this time of the year.
Maybe they have caveats for days but this is from their site:
http://glenhelen.com/track-rental/
mattyhamz2 5/31/2018 1:26pm
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ML512 wrote:
They would lose money compared to a standard Thursday. At $25 a pop a standard Thursday has I’d guess around 80-100 paying entries during this time...
They would lose money compared to a standard Thursday. At $25 a pop a standard Thursday has I’d guess around 80-100 paying entries during this time of the year.
500guy wrote:
Lets put it into perspective, for the maximum amount of $2500.00 Glen Helen is willing to risk the lives of up to 100 people. Seems kind...
Lets put it into perspective, for the maximum amount of $2500.00 Glen Helen is willing to risk the lives of up to 100 people.

Seems kind of crazy huh?
I've learned that there are quite a few track owners that don't seem to care about safety of the riders at all, only how much $$ they can bring it. One track owner I really like is the owner of Cal City MX. John is an all around good guy that loves to hear from and talk to the riders. He wants the track to be fun, challenging and safe which he seems to do really well. Ed from Zaca was another one, other than no flaggers or medic, but you could pretty much see everything there.
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StretchASU 5/31/2018 1:26pm
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Forget the pros vs squids stopwatch nationals. Shouldn't he have been in Colorado getting acclimated to the elevation?
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MudPup545 5/31/2018 1:27pm
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Muezh wrote:
"while two other riders were trying to assist the downed individual, Anderson clipped one of them...resulting in Jason crashing."

So Jason's fault if this is accurate.
Or.... Blind area and poor/no flagging?
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If it hasn't been posted yet, it's for sure a broken leg.
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dsmith 5/31/2018 1:28pm
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if its a known fact that the pros are gonna be there..jack up the fee to 500.00/rider on that day.
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Aj528 5/31/2018 1:29pm
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This is exactly why my dad started the Milestone Pro day deal back in 2009. Both tracks hooked together, ripped as deep as the disks would go, and watered the piss out of it. Started as pro license only but the they shattered letting fast A and B kids join in. But if you were off the pace or in the way you got pulled off and they had a manager supervising this until 2pm every Wednesday. I believe this still runs but it definitely a shell of what it started as.
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McG194 5/31/2018 1:30pm
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If you are on a track practicing and you think it's cool that you are on the same track with Jason Anderson you need to get off the track.

With Swink passing just a bit ago I have been thinking of a time when I ended up riding with him during practice at Brown City on a race day. This was probably the last ride he had on a Kawasaki and he went by me like I was dragging an anchor. Literally fast enough that he startled me. Nothing good could come of me being on the track with him so I sat the rest of practice out.
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ML512 5/31/2018 1:31pm
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overtheedge wrote:
Wait, it's only $950 to rent out GH for an entire day? That sounds unbelievably cheap, and would be a drop in the bucket for any...
Wait, it's only $950 to rent out GH for an entire day? That sounds unbelievably cheap, and would be a drop in the bucket for any of the factory teams.
ML512 wrote:
They would lose money compared to a standard Thursday. At $25 a pop a standard Thursday has I’d guess around 80-100 paying entries during this time...
They would lose money compared to a standard Thursday. At $25 a pop a standard Thursday has I’d guess around 80-100 paying entries during this time of the year.
tprice07 wrote:
Maybe they have caveats for days but this is from their site:
http://glenhelen.com/track-rental/
Those are for the days it’s not open to the public (Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday).
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Brett Kline crashed at a Thurs GH practice in 2007 and fell into a coma and then sadly passed away the next Tues. Just saying and l don't want Brett fogotten.

I don't understand why GH doesn't have flaggers but l know regardless of whether the are or aren't flaggers l stop and help manage the flow of riders after a crash and thank god my good fellow riders did the same for me when l ate shit at Milestone earlier this year.

Motocross dudes tend to be good, caring individuals who want to help no matter what but l agree that all facilities should have flaggers and especially EMTs on site whenever the track is operating.

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