Ping says........(ok,ok...125s back at the Nationals)

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early 11/17/2017 4:04pm
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Johnny Depp wrote:
If this thread had the title "2 strokes are back at the AMA Nationals" we would be on page 5 already. Now if they don't have...
If this thread had the title "2 strokes are back at the AMA Nationals" we would be on page 5 already.

Now if they don't have some insane rules about what you can run, the field will be interesting.

As mentioned Sherco and Beta have brand new models that haven't even hit the U.S. yet. Both have downsized frames and all new engines with the latest technology, Sherco with standard e-start and Beta optional. If you can make a 20 year old Japanese bike competitive, there is no doubt these things could do the job.

http://shercooffroad.com/motorcycles/2018-sherco-racing/2018-sherco-125…



http://betausa.com/content/all-new-2018-beta-125-rr-2-stroke




We'll have to see what kind of rules play out but the races they ran tgis year were pretty much run what ya brung. It would be cool if they kept it the same so you could see 2006 CRs KXs and RMs next to 2018 Betas, Shercos and TMs.
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Josh422 11/17/2017 4:49pm
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Make sure and thank Joey Lancaster.
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Mr. Ted 11/17/2017 5:16pm
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In before page 25... but I think this is absolutely the smartest thing moto has done in ages if true. How many have we seen get bitten by jumping from 85 to 250 and not ready? It will provide some great racing.
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RPM68 11/17/2017 5:37pm
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Sweet, my 125 just got off the dyno!

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JM485 11/17/2017 5:50pm
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So would this be a pro only class, or an application type thing like the triple crown was? If it's open to amateurs I might just have an old CR that I need an excuse to pull out of the garage and build up. . .Whistling
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aeffertz 11/17/2017 5:59pm
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I hope that if they do it, they do it correctly and offer payouts and a championship title. I think we'd see a lot more action and better racing if there was an incentive other than getting to rid a prepped national track.

I'd love to be able to follow the same guys week after week in the championship like I do in the 250 and 450 classes.
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slipdog 11/17/2017 6:08pm
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TeamGreen wrote:
There are 4 readily available 125s in the USA:

Yamaha
KTM
Husqvarna
TM (probably have to order it...but you can get it)
AJ565 wrote:
I saw a new TM 250 2 stroke last weekend. It was the first one I've ever seen in person so there out there somewhere.
*Cough, Cough*

https://sacramento.craigslist.org/mcd/d/2017-tm-125-two-stroke/63686173…



bodean123 11/17/2017 7:53pm
11/17/2017 7:53pm
Wonder if they will allow guys to compete in this, and the nats? For example, would Stank Dog be allowed to run both events?
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kkawboy14 11/17/2017 8:25pm
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We’re getting the band back together!
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KDXGarage 11/17/2017 8:55pm
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If this is the case, can DC please post where I send my money to watch all the 125 races? I am pretty good at media blackout until the Racer X videos are posted, but would love to see the races sooner without spoilers from others.

Thank you.
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slipdog wrote:
*Cough, Cough* https://sacramento.craigslist.org/mcd/d/2017-tm-125-two-stroke/6368617316.html [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/11/17/225848/s1200_Screenshot_2017_11_17_at_6.06.47_PM.jpg[/img]
*Cough, Cough*

https://sacramento.craigslist.org/mcd/d/2017-tm-125-two-stroke/63686173…



Cough cough help a brother arrange shipping across the pacific..
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mmcmx 11/18/2017 10:15am
11/18/2017 10:15am Edited Date/Time 11/18/2017 10:17am
Shame that with the production rule we will never see the small brands in pro racing. I like the idea of the rule but it fails to deliver since it gives the top teams even more privilege than in the full works days.
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roninho 11/18/2017 10:31am
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And i just bought a 2000 husky cr 125 for $295 today! Now i just need to get rid off 40 pounds and win 20 seconds a lap.
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I got a 2008 Husky CR125 from original owner. $1200. Needed nothing. Came with new FMF pipe and silencer in the box. Extra shock springs. ASV levers. Front tire was still original. Goes well with my 01 KX250 I got new. Just need more two stroke races.
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downard254 11/18/2017 12:10pm
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Plugga wrote:
Have a read: http://mxworksbike.com/index.php/component/content/article?id=26:1972-h…

Especially the "Honda will never build a 2-stroke motorcycle!" part.
Well, it’s all marketing. If a 125 series started back up, had great popularity with riders and fans, and 125’s started rolling off the floor, you could bet your ass that others would start building them too. Can’t let the other brands tap into the revenues without getting their cut.
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Plugga wrote:
Have a read: http://mxworksbike.com/index.php/component/content/article?id=26:1972-h…

Especially the "Honda will never build a 2-stroke motorcycle!" part.
downard254 wrote:
Well, it’s all marketing. If a 125 series started back up, had great popularity with riders and fans, and 125’s started rolling off the floor, you...
Well, it’s all marketing. If a 125 series started back up, had great popularity with riders and fans, and 125’s started rolling off the floor, you could bet your ass that others would start building them too. Can’t let the other brands tap into the revenues without getting their cut.
X2 ,$$ talks. Complaining on vital doesn't.
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toomanykaws wrote:
I got a 2008 Husky CR125 from original owner. $1200. Needed nothing. Came with new FMF pipe and silencer in the box. Extra shock springs. ASV...
I got a 2008 Husky CR125 from original owner. $1200. Needed nothing. Came with new FMF pipe and silencer in the box. Extra shock springs. ASV levers. Front tire was still original. Goes well with my 01 KX250 I got new. Just need more two stroke races.
Hell of a deal, I've heard those bikes rip!
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Plugga wrote:
Have a read: http://mxworksbike.com/index.php/component/content/article?id=26:1972-h…

Especially the "Honda will never build a 2-stroke motorcycle!" part.
downard254 wrote:
Well, it’s all marketing. If a 125 series started back up, had great popularity with riders and fans, and 125’s started rolling off the floor, you...
Well, it’s all marketing. If a 125 series started back up, had great popularity with riders and fans, and 125’s started rolling off the floor, you could bet your ass that others would start building them too. Can’t let the other brands tap into the revenues without getting their cut.
mxb2 wrote:
X2 ,$$ talks. Complaining on vital doesn't.
Yeah, but it seems to be more popular than accepting reality.

The people that fawn over 2007 RM 125’s and 250’s don’t remember how hard they were to sell 10 years ago. Oh, I forgot, it was the ama and the OEM’s that conspired to drive 2 strokes out of existence, not the lack of demand.

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mxb2 11/18/2017 1:13pm
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downard254 wrote:
Well, it’s all marketing. If a 125 series started back up, had great popularity with riders and fans, and 125’s started rolling off the floor, you...
Well, it’s all marketing. If a 125 series started back up, had great popularity with riders and fans, and 125’s started rolling off the floor, you could bet your ass that others would start building them too. Can’t let the other brands tap into the revenues without getting their cut.
mxb2 wrote:
X2 ,$$ talks. Complaining on vital doesn't.
RMT wrote:
Yeah, but it seems to be more popular than accepting reality. The people that fawn over 2007 RM 125’s and 250’s don’t remember how hard they...
Yeah, but it seems to be more popular than accepting reality.

The people that fawn over 2007 RM 125’s and 250’s don’t remember how hard they were to sell 10 years ago. Oh, I forgot, it was the ama and the OEM’s that conspired to drive 2 strokes out of existence, not the lack of demand.
Plenty of new smokers out there to buy instead of used Craigslist stuff. Show by buying new.
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downard254 wrote:
Well, it’s all marketing. If a 125 series started back up, had great popularity with riders and fans, and 125’s started rolling off the floor, you...
Well, it’s all marketing. If a 125 series started back up, had great popularity with riders and fans, and 125’s started rolling off the floor, you could bet your ass that others would start building them too. Can’t let the other brands tap into the revenues without getting their cut.
mxb2 wrote:
X2 ,$$ talks. Complaining on vital doesn't.
RMT wrote:
Yeah, but it seems to be more popular than accepting reality. The people that fawn over 2007 RM 125’s and 250’s don’t remember how hard they...
Yeah, but it seems to be more popular than accepting reality.

The people that fawn over 2007 RM 125’s and 250’s don’t remember how hard they were to sell 10 years ago. Oh, I forgot, it was the ama and the OEM’s that conspired to drive 2 strokes out of existence, not the lack of demand.
Yeah, you guys a right. Silly me.

I had some crazy idea that Honda is pressuring the rule makers to keep it as is. Back to reality huh? Sad
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Robgvx 11/19/2017 2:19am
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Great news. But who's going to race?
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Sidecar 11/19/2017 6:09am
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Another brand trying to make things happen.... Give them a follow on the gram...


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mmcmx 11/19/2017 6:54am
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Robgvx wrote:
Great news. But who's going to race?
I'd like to se a full pro class but probablly the top amateurs like in europe?
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mxb2 11/19/2017 7:07am
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Robgvx wrote:
Great news. But who's going to race?
mmcmx wrote:
I'd like to se a full pro class but probablly the top amateurs like in europe?
Local pro ,or fast guy privateers. No big name riders.
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Another brand trying to make things happen.... Give them a follow on the gram... [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/11/19/226090/s1200_518494F7_2288_4648_A956_A1C2D64528F5.jpg[/img]
Another brand trying to make things happen.... Give them a follow on the gram...


Looks like a 1996 cr250
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Kartwheel84c 11/19/2017 7:53am
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Who cares if a manufacturer wont "like it" just because they dont offer a product that fits the class? That is their business decision and it should have NOTHING to do with the racing rules. That is like saying Le Mans should shape their rules so there is a special class for Tesla electric cars. The FIM/AMA/Feld/MX Sports need to harden the F up and just create rules they want, then let the manufacturers deal with those rules how they see fit, manufacturers having too much influence is half the problem with racing today.
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Bruce372 11/19/2017 8:21am
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TeamGreen wrote:
There are 4 readily available 125s in the USA:

Yamaha
KTM
Husqvarna
TM (probably have to order it...but you can get it)
AJ565 wrote:
I saw a new TM 250 2 stroke last weekend. It was the first one I've ever seen in person so there out there somewhere.
slipdog wrote:
*Cough, Cough* https://sacramento.craigslist.org/mcd/d/2017-tm-125-two-stroke/6368617316.html [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/11/17/225848/s1200_Screenshot_2017_11_17_at_6.06.47_PM.jpg[/img]
*Cough, Cough*

https://sacramento.craigslist.org/mcd/d/2017-tm-125-two-stroke/63686173…



That's been for sale for weeks
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slipdog 11/19/2017 8:29am
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Bruce372 wrote:
That's been for sale for weeks
Haha, I wouldn't buy it either. Now a Husky like you just got... Yeah baby!!!!
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Kartwheel84c wrote:
Who cares if a manufacturer wont "like it" just because they dont offer a product that fits the class? That is their business decision and it...
Who cares if a manufacturer wont "like it" just because they dont offer a product that fits the class? That is their business decision and it should have NOTHING to do with the racing rules. That is like saying Le Mans should shape their rules so there is a special class for Tesla electric cars. The FIM/AMA/Feld/MX Sports need to harden the F up and just create rules they want, then let the manufacturers deal with those rules how they see fit, manufacturers having too much influence is half the problem with racing today.
Honda has a lot of $$ and helps the decision making.

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