Which current 250 racer will make the best career on the 450s?

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Austin Forkner
Jeremy Martin
Joey Savagty
Aaron Plessinger
Justin Hill
Shane Mcelrath
Zach Osborne
Christian Craig
Adam Ciancirulo

Which few will make it on a factory 450 team and be a contender for wins in both supercross and outdoor nationals?

My bet is Justin Hill, he has the most natural talent compared to anyone on that list and we have seen what he has done at monster energy cup



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I think Plessinger will do well. I think his starts are holding him back right now due to his size. It would be interesting to to see what he can do with 450 power.
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Ramrod 2/12/2017 10:46am
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Plessinger but I can see Hill being good and McElrath also. Don't know about the east 250 guys yet.
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kkawboy14 2/12/2017 10:53am
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Hill, like Webb has already shown some pretty good stuff on a 450, so I'll go with Hill and Plessinger.
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Ramrod 2/12/2017 10:56am
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kiwifan wrote:
JMart
Serious or joking?

It's possible. He just seems to me like a 450 will eat him up in SX but who knows, maybe it's the change he needs soon to get better indoors. He's an animal outdoors for sure
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BobPA 2/12/2017 10:56am
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Hill and Plessinger for sure

I think Jeremy Martin will struggle on the big bike, especially indoors
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JMart out doors, Fokner SX. I would say JMart for both but starts will kill him in SX
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I think AC revives his career on the big bikes. Hill and savagty
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Dimblewambie 2/12/2017 11:15am
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I'd say plessinger, providing he can figure out how to get a decent start on the 450.
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tyler durden 2/12/2017 11:16am
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Forkner if he gets stronger
Hill if he stays healthy
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kkawboy14 wrote:
Hill, like Webb has already shown some pretty good stuff on a 450, so I'll go with Hill and Plessinger.
Yup!
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Well won't see forkner for years. As far as plessinger goes, I see him being a Millsaps. There's no riders I see that will be outstanding like a Dungey/Tomac/Roczen. Just a bunch of really good guys from 5th-15th every week
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gsxr6 2/12/2017 11:28am
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Forkner will get stronger. He is as naturally talented as they get. Ac has the frame for a 450, but typically injuries and crashing get worse when a guy moves up. I know I never expected roczen to do better than tomac, as fitness was always an issue before he moved up. Shows what I know. I figured bagget would dominate esp. Outside.
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Ramrod 2/12/2017 11:34am
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gsxr6 wrote:
Forkner will get stronger. He is as naturally talented as they get. Ac has the frame for a 450, but typically injuries and crashing get worse...
Forkner will get stronger. He is as naturally talented as they get. Ac has the frame for a 450, but typically injuries and crashing get worse when a guy moves up. I know I never expected roczen to do better than tomac, as fitness was always an issue before he moved up. Shows what I know. I figured bagget would dominate esp. Outside.
"AC has the frame for a 450". Who would have thought that a few years ago.

I hope you're right. Kid is good!
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kiwifan 2/12/2017 2:33pm
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kiwifan wrote:
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Ramrod wrote:
Serious or joking? It's possible. He just seems to me like a 450 will eat him up in SX but who knows, maybe it's the change...
Serious or joking?

It's possible. He just seems to me like a 450 will eat him up in SX but who knows, maybe it's the change he needs soon to get better indoors. He's an animal outdoors for sure
Serious....maybe not the first rookie year, the boy has ton of talent
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rhargrave431 2/12/2017 3:32pm
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Craig fit sure! His style suits a 450, and in years prior, when he rode the 450, he did extremely well
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McElrath for sure, looks strong and well known he can ride 450.

I can also see plessinger doing well, he seems to have that Raw speed that few posses, just got to get those starts dialed.

As close as the 250/450 are in weight these days, you need a certain amount of "power" to muscle one of these 450's around. Watching Webb recently I think he's figuring this out, first few rounds he looked like the bike was taking him for a ride, now he looks in control.

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mark_swart 2/12/2017 8:48pm
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Forkner and Plessinger, hands down.
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JMart, AC and Webb are "next".
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mark_swart wrote:
Forkner and Plessinger, hands down.
+1. Nobody else jumps out at me. Not every 250 east/west champ is destined for bike big greatness. Perhaps this was an easier assumption back in the Ratio Rite days, but not in 21st century moto
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JSmith 2/13/2017 2:08am
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Justin Hill is the clear favorite. I believe he has said he is better/prefers a 450.
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Lucifa. 2/13/2017 2:45am
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a contender for wins in both supercross and outdoor nationals?

None from that list unless were talking in terms of 5 years plus. 450's are way too stacked at the moment. If and it's a big IF would be Forkner if he stops breaking shit.
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Craig and AC. Big enough, technique riders, good starters, driven.

AP could do it, but I'm a big believer in people who are shit starters are just shit starters....
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Gonna go with Savagty or Craig. Hill maybe also. For no other reason than they are my favorites. I think Savagty will adapt esp well tho. He seems to have it all. Speed aggression and form. I mean they all do but he stands out to me the most.
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gonna go Shane Mcelrath, he seems to have the size and reminds me of a dungey type, consistent, maybe he doesn't have the raw speed of some of the other riders, but of the above I think he has the best shot
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Forkner, Plessinger and Jmart. I think Forkner will be battling for championships when he moves up. He is the real deal.

I think plessinger will be a threat for podiums and the occasional win in SX. He could be the real deal outdoors.

Jmart reminds me of Baggett. Probably 6th to 12th place guy in sx. But will always be a threat for podiums outdoors and has the potential to get a few wins.
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c0ncEpT 2/13/2017 7:40am
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I don't think we have the next Tomac, Dungey, Roczen, Ect in the 250 field currently. Maybe Forkner but we still have a few years before we'll be able to tell that.
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kaptkaos 2/13/2017 7:41am
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AP and Craig.

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