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ATKpilot99 11/17/2016 5:03am
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nascarnate326 wrote:
If some online comments are as bad as it gets for Honda..they are doing good. I am pretty sure some crazy shit happened during the 90's...
If some online comments are as bad as it gets for Honda..they are doing good.

I am pretty sure some crazy shit happened during the 90's in motocross that would make the stuff these guys do look weak as hell. That being said everyone on the starting gate of a main is extremely focused compared to back then.
Yeah a lot of riders in the 90s didn't even notice when the gate dropped . Huh
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Rowlands 11/17/2016 5:30am
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Good on Kenny no needs to be disrespectful but atleast he says what he thinks. It's clear that he doesn't get on with Aldon and now feels the need to take jabs at him. Man I hope Ken and Honda take that damn title off Aldons boys ( unless it's Marvin )
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Bramlett321 11/17/2016 5:35am
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mmcmx wrote:
Kenny is great. Like Taleb tweeted yesterday, The saying "silence is gold" applies only to fools. A mediocre and overweight retired rider taking a jab at...
Kenny is great. Like Taleb tweeted yesterday, The saying "silence is gold" applies only to fools.

A mediocre and overweight retired rider taking a jab at him sure looks bad tough.
Who is the mediocre and overweight rider? If by that statement you mean David Pingree you couldn't be more wrong. He is one of the best riders of his time and missed a championship by one point, for which he gets a lot of shit, but nevertheless he is anything but "mediocre" and dam sure isn't overweight. If anything the dude is more bowed up than ever before.....and his wife is super hot so there's that.
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sam hain 11/17/2016 5:36am
11/17/2016 5:36am
My opinion isn't worth much, but IMO all of Aldon's riders look like they are ready to join the local anarexia anonymous group.

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ratonmacias 11/17/2016 5:53am
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gsxr6 wrote:
On a side note RC, Everts, and McGrath all born in November between the 19th and 27th. So maybe it's just when u were born lol
mx617 wrote:
This is actually a thing. Being born in Dec vs Jan can provide a huge advantage especially in Athletics. I saw a study of while back...
This is actually a thing. Being born in Dec vs Jan can provide a huge advantage especially in Athletics. I saw a study of while back that tracked the performance on kids born a different times of the year and the later in the year you're born the higher the success rate.
Dude i must be a badass Dec 29
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Flatliner 11/17/2016 6:02am
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MotoX85 wrote:
Let me see if I got this right Man I'm tired of the riders being robots and just thanking their sponsors, I want someone who speaks...
Let me see if I got this right

Man I'm tired of the riders being robots and just thanking their sponsors, I want someone who speaks their mind and tells it how it is.....

Man, Kenny is such a bitch, Honda better get a hold on his whiny little ass.


This place is going to shit real quick, barely get on here anymore, way too many non riding posers......just sayin.
TheOriginalPancakee wrote:
I agree. Dungey is a great guy but so DAMN BORING!! We need more people like Kenny
Why do people equate acting like a spoiled brat with being exciting? I like Kroc too but this social media stuff is beneath him. It's like everyone forgets that RV paid Aldon for 4 years.... and he seems like a pretty frugal guy.

Dungey just went back to back with Aldon indoors.

Edited ..... I think the social media thing is generational too... I'm 34, the gf is 25, smart, successful, but she posts everything and I couldn't be bothered. So there's that too I guess.

Of course he's not the be all end all of training, he's not magic , but the fact remains he's helped some of the best riders of all time.

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sende 11/17/2016 6:07am
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He is just giving us something to argue about during this off season.
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TXDirt 11/17/2016 6:19am
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kkawboy14 wrote:
$250,000 a year for a trainer?
RG1 wrote:
If I paid that for a trainer and he wouldn't listen to what I needed or adjust the program so I could get the best out...
If I paid that for a trainer and he wouldn't listen to what I needed or adjust the program so I could get the best out of myself I'd be pretty pissed too
Probably not a good idea to pay 250k to a trainer and then decide to tell trainer how to do his job. If you know what you need then what exactly are you paying the trainer for?

Some people work great on Aldon's program. Some don't. Every person he has had though has burned out early. RC, RV, JS, etc.

Kenny has a personality that doesn't gel with Aldon. They butted heads and didn't leave on good terms. So what? I like Kenny's honesty and have no problem with the jabs. He paid Aldon a shit ton of money, didn't feel like he got his money's worth. I would take plenty of side jabs as well.
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Skidaddle 11/17/2016 6:36am
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jamma10 wrote:
Dungey had already won what, five championships before joining Aldon Baker? Indoors and out.
And until recently, all were prior champions. Roczen included.

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Skidaddle 11/17/2016 6:58am
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nascarnate326 wrote:
If some online comments are as bad as it gets for Honda..they are doing good. I am pretty sure some crazy shit happened during the 90's...
If some online comments are as bad as it gets for Honda..they are doing good.

I am pretty sure some crazy shit happened during the 90's in motocross that would make the stuff these guys do look weak as hell. That being said everyone on the starting gate of a main is extremely focused compared to back then.
ATKpilot99 wrote:
Yeah a lot of riders in the 90s didn't even notice when the gate dropped . Huh
Haha
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mx_563 11/17/2016 7:17am
11/17/2016 7:17am
I bet there's a lot of industry people lurking in this thread.

As old as the "jab jab" is getting from Kenny, I think it's Ping who really screwed up here. Gotta keep your cool Pingerator! Look what you done started!
Wait minute, maybe Ping knew exactly what he was doing. Maybe he is the ultimate troll! Just pushing people's buttons to get em' fired up? Touché Ping, touché! Ha ha!

BTW: I wonder if AC92 is a bigger baller now that he left Aldon. ;-)
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Skidaddle 11/17/2016 7:26am
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For 250K you could have a staff of Swedish masseuse giving deep tissue Myofascial Release!Woohoo a personal chef, a maid, and a car detailer.

Oh, and a energy drink chick to take lap times and say, too slow...
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Motofinne 11/17/2016 7:29am
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250k for a trainer is nothing if you win with him.

2 SX race wins and the trainer is paid.

I'm sure that Dungey is happy with Aldon.
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Bramlett321 11/17/2016 7:33am
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nascarnate326 wrote:
If some online comments are as bad as it gets for Honda..they are doing good. I am pretty sure some crazy shit happened during the 90's...
If some online comments are as bad as it gets for Honda..they are doing good.

I am pretty sure some crazy shit happened during the 90's in motocross that would make the stuff these guys do look weak as hell. That being said everyone on the starting gate of a main is extremely focused compared to back then.
ATKpilot99 wrote:
Yeah a lot of riders in the 90s didn't even notice when the gate dropped . Huh
Skidaddle wrote:
Haha
^^^ Exactly...Just as the end of the Matthes Bob the Hurricane Hanna podcast says "These are different bikes different times"
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MXMattii 11/17/2016 8:21am
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kkawboy14 wrote:
$250,000 a year for a trainer?
RG1 wrote:
If I paid that for a trainer and he wouldn't listen to what I needed or adjust the program so I could get the best out...
If I paid that for a trainer and he wouldn't listen to what I needed or adjust the program so I could get the best out of myself I'd be pretty pissed too
That's indeed a point of debate. Aldon has his way of thinking and working. When you sign up to work with you, you are signing up to walk his path. He will tweak the program a little to your heart rates and stuff but that is it. But you need to ask the question, is a great trainer not one who can put a schedule together, build for the athletes body he's working with?

That Christophe Pourcel isn't working with Aldon because his body can't handle the same workload as RC, RV, Dungey, ... isn't that a bit of a weakness of Aldon? That he isn't capable of building a program for someone says something not? He's only capable to choose riders who are physical though enough to make his work for themselves.

His program is clearly good, but the question is: Do you need to ask the same workload from all the riders? That you ask the same motivation ok! But bodies aren't the same. So that you doesn't give a sh*t about the riders thoughts, his bosses in fact are beyond me. Stefan Everts didn't the same workload as Joel Smets either I guess.
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NV825 11/17/2016 9:45am
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CarlinoJoeVideo wrote:
Ping coming in hot at Kenny, hahaha [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/11/16/160323/s1200_IMG_8573.jpg[/img]
Ping coming in hot at Kenny, hahaha


jamma10 wrote:
Dungey had already won what, five championships before joining Aldon Baker? Indoors and out.
Agreed, people think Dungey found some sort of extra speed or mental toughness by joining the Baker program. He basically had one bad mofo (RV) who could consistently beat him for a c'ship, and low and behold once that guy retired Dungey started to bring home the c'ships.

If Baker can take Anderson or Musquin to the top step this year come Vegas, I will be a believer.
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RG1 11/17/2016 9:50am
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kkawboy14 wrote:
$250,000 a year for a trainer?
RG1 wrote:
If I paid that for a trainer and he wouldn't listen to what I needed or adjust the program so I could get the best out...
If I paid that for a trainer and he wouldn't listen to what I needed or adjust the program so I could get the best out of myself I'd be pretty pissed too
MXMattii wrote:
That's indeed a point of debate. Aldon has his way of thinking and working. When you sign up to work with you, you are signing up...
That's indeed a point of debate. Aldon has his way of thinking and working. When you sign up to work with you, you are signing up to walk his path. He will tweak the program a little to your heart rates and stuff but that is it. But you need to ask the question, is a great trainer not one who can put a schedule together, build for the athletes body he's working with?

That Christophe Pourcel isn't working with Aldon because his body can't handle the same workload as RC, RV, Dungey, ... isn't that a bit of a weakness of Aldon? That he isn't capable of building a program for someone says something not? He's only capable to choose riders who are physical though enough to make his work for themselves.

His program is clearly good, but the question is: Do you need to ask the same workload from all the riders? That you ask the same motivation ok! But bodies aren't the same. So that you doesn't give a sh*t about the riders thoughts, his bosses in fact are beyond me. Stefan Everts didn't the same workload as Joel Smets either I guess.
To me, you hire a trainer to work with you and improve yourself, analyse you, your body, how it works etc. figure out what kind of work load, what method of training is right for you. I know Aldon does a lot of analysis, but something is clearly not right when he's working with these younger guys, Roczen was just running on fumes at the end of '14, it never worked well for AC. The guys that have the physique to deal with Aldon's program obviously do very well on it. It's not necessarily a slight on Aldon, more on those who make out that he's like this God of training, and Kenny leaving him was the biggest mistake of his life. If it didn't work for him, it didn't work, why would you spend that much on a trainer to have them run you into the ground and not tailor their training to your needs, when you can hire a personal one and get better results
TheGetFresh 11/17/2016 9:51am
11/17/2016 9:51am
Anybody notice how Kenny didn't fade late in the season this year like he has in the past? No? Oh, you wanna just talk about the... ok. Nah, man. It's cool. I'll just get some popcorn.

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MX Guy 11/17/2016 9:53am
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mmcmx wrote:
Kenny is great. Like Taleb tweeted yesterday, The saying "silence is gold" applies only to fools. A mediocre and overweight retired rider taking a jab at...
Kenny is great. Like Taleb tweeted yesterday, The saying "silence is gold" applies only to fools.

A mediocre and overweight retired rider taking a jab at him sure looks bad tough.
Bramlett321 wrote:
Who is the mediocre and overweight rider? If by that statement you mean David Pingree you couldn't be more wrong. He is one of the best...
Who is the mediocre and overweight rider? If by that statement you mean David Pingree you couldn't be more wrong. He is one of the best riders of his time and missed a championship by one point, for which he gets a lot of shit, but nevertheless he is anything but "mediocre" and dam sure isn't overweight. If anything the dude is more bowed up than ever before.....and his wife is super hot so there's that.
This is just a seriously creepy response
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peelout 11/17/2016 10:02am
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Good life lesson: Stay in your lane.
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twotwosix 11/17/2016 10:07am
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kkawboy14 wrote:
$250,000 a year for a trainer?
Yeah, but also with Aldon don't need to pay for 2 tracks, a practice garage, a gym, a nutritionist, etc...

What everyone, including Kenny, forget is that you cannot compare Kenny on a KTM, to Kenny now. The amount of training, diet, riding, racing and mental experience that Kenny has acquired is massive. Who else has trained side by side with Villo and Dungey in their prime? AC is probably the only guy...
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andyman 11/17/2016 10:14am
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Kenny was doing better with Aldon too.
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RG1 11/17/2016 10:32am
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andyman wrote:
Kenny was doing better with Aldon too.
He wasn't really though. He was great for 3/4 of the season, then he faded late in the outdoor season and if the championship had been any longer he would've probably lost that title. 2015 was pretty good to start with then he just got injured a lot which Aldon would not have prevented. 2016 he was solid from start to finish
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FlaNard 11/17/2016 10:34am
11/17/2016 10:34am
Did Aldon cheat on Kenny? And is Kenny 16? That is the only way I can make sense of butthurt lasting THIS long.
Dirty Points 11/17/2016 10:42am
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gsxr6 wrote:
On a side note RC, Everts, and McGrath all born in November between the 19th and 27th. So maybe it's just when u were born lol
MX Astrology. LOL.
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twotwosix 11/17/2016 11:15am
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andyman wrote:
Kenny was doing better with Aldon too.
Definitely not.

Kenny's riding this summer was unreal. Closest thing I can compare it to was JS7 on a 125.
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Maximus#128 11/17/2016 11:24am
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Kenny can talk all the crap he can right now because he's on top of the world. Be interesting to see how he's feeling after he goes on a string of bad races.....and it will happen.
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peelout 11/17/2016 11:27am
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look no further bros, we found the genetic lottery winner
flinttropicsMX 11/17/2016 11:47am
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Dave lol





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