Crazy 50 parents?

mx510
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Wondering if any of you have come across the crazy 50 parents that curse, yell and scream at their own kids, and what you did, if anything. I recently became 1 of 2 referees (shared duty) at a track and I am fielding complaints of a particular parent. I unfortunately did not catch the said parent in the act, being a race official I can't really say anything unless I or another employee see something. Curious what some of your experiences are.
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mx510 wrote:
Wondering if any of you have come across the crazy 50 parents that curse, yell and scream at their own kids, and what you did, if...
Wondering if any of you have come across the crazy 50 parents that curse, yell and scream at their own kids, and what you did, if anything. I recently became 1 of 2 referees (shared duty) at a track and I am fielding complaints of a particular parent. I unfortunately did not catch the said parent in the act, being a race official I can't really say anything unless I or another employee see something. Curious what some of your experiences are.
I understand someone standing track side telling them to go,go,go . But the cussing at or yelling in a harsh way it total bullshit!!!
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5/14/2016 4:41pm
Mini bike parents acting like insane assholes? Huh
Never heard of such a thing.... Must be exclusive to your track. Tongue
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5/14/2016 5:16pm Edited Date/Time 5/14/2016 5:16pm
The late Don Jones told a story about him standing at trackside and yelling at his boys to go faster, then later his grandkids started racing and he was a trackside yelling for them to slow down! Go to a NMA race and watch its like watching the WWE.
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The parent just want what is best for them.. I mean the kids.. Seriously I tried yelling instructions, like "did you finish your homework" and my son said he never heard a thing. Blush

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The parent just want what is best for them.. I mean the kids.. Seriously I tried yelling instructions, like "did you finish your homework" and my...
The parent just want what is best for them.. I mean the kids.. Seriously I tried yelling instructions, like "did you finish your homework" and my son said he never heard a thing. Blush
I wish what was reported to me was as clean as what you are saying. This guy is a tool.
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5/14/2016 6:08pm
I didn't see it happen. But One of our medics saw a mini dad punch his kid after a race because he didn't win. Cops were called, the CPS ended up involved and did an investigation. It was a whole ordeal. The dad in question denied it, but he was always a pain in the A and tried to tuff guy his way. We banned the dad from the facility, but the kid was the one that suffered ultimately, because who's going to bring him riding?

Another situation a parent smacked a helmeted kid (85 rider) when he was riding off the track because of an on track questionable pass during practice, then the smacked kids dad jumped on the other dad and started wailing on him. Our dozer operator got in the middle of it to try and break it up, then he got punched and all hell broke loose. Fists were flying and a mini mom started to choke him from behind. Then I finally made it across the live track and got involved and started yanking people out of the pile from the scruffs of their necks like they were dogs. I think we tossed 7 people from the track, DQd both kids and the cops were called. Fun times. Mini parents are the worst. Lol
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Several years ago I was at a LL regional qualifier and heard a mother of a 50 rider screaming, 'FASTER YOUR'E IN F***ING LAST!" I have kids now and they play the usual "ball sports" and I have determined most parents are horrible people.
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5/14/2016 6:52pm
If you see something that is across the line, wait until the moto is finished and tell that parent that they are being warned for whatever it was and that if it happens again they will be asked to leave and will not be welcome back in the future.

If they cross the line again, ask them to leave, offer them a refund for their entry fee and tell them not to come back again.
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5/14/2016 8:12pm Edited Date/Time 5/14/2016 8:13pm
Oh man.....I ran an indoor AX track for 4-1/2yrs and had upwards of 3500 members over that time. Good gawd I could tell you guys about some seriously screwed up moto dad shit , and it was only a practice track. Damn near went to blows with a couple of them. Either obey the rules or get the fuck off my track. Felt so sorry for some of them kids. And I swear to god , some of those assholes got me so fired up it I really , really wanted to take it to a more serious level.....but I didn't want to make it so the kid couldn't come back and ride. I did however get my way and they started ( the moto dads ) acting a little more civil and followed my rules. THIS....on top of some other things , is what made me leave this sport completely for 6yrs. It ruined it for me.
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jeffro503 wrote:
Oh man.....I ran an indoor AX track for 4-1/2yrs and had upwards of 3500 members over that time. Good gawd I could tell you guys about...
Oh man.....I ran an indoor AX track for 4-1/2yrs and had upwards of 3500 members over that time. Good gawd I could tell you guys about some seriously screwed up moto dad shit , and it was only a practice track. Damn near went to blows with a couple of them. Either obey the rules or get the fuck off my track. Felt so sorry for some of them kids. And I swear to god , some of those assholes got me so fired up it I really , really wanted to take it to a more serious level.....but I didn't want to make it so the kid couldn't come back and ride. I did however get my way and they started ( the moto dads ) acting a little more civil and followed my rules. THIS....on top of some other things , is what made me leave this sport completely for 6yrs. It ruined it for me.
In the long run, it's better to stick around and be a positive influence in the sport.

On a positive note, I race with a few guys who's kids are some of the faster mini riders in our area. They are so down to earth and it reflects in the maturity level of their sons on and off track. Since I have no kids of my own, it's really a pleasure to see them setting the example from the front of the pack.
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5/14/2016 9:53pm
Makes me so appreciate how our dad was with us. We just went riding and it
was about having fun and riding wisely, being safe.
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5/14/2016 10:23pm
The late Don Jones told a story about him standing at trackside and yelling at his boys to go faster, then later his grandkids started racing...
The late Don Jones told a story about him standing at trackside and yelling at his boys to go faster, then later his grandkids started racing and he was a trackside yelling for them to slow down! Go to a NMA race and watch its like watching the WWE.
NMA closed up shop.
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jeffro503 wrote:
Oh man.....I ran an indoor AX track for 4-1/2yrs and had upwards of 3500 members over that time. Good gawd I could tell you guys about...
Oh man.....I ran an indoor AX track for 4-1/2yrs and had upwards of 3500 members over that time. Good gawd I could tell you guys about some seriously screwed up moto dad shit , and it was only a practice track. Damn near went to blows with a couple of them. Either obey the rules or get the fuck off my track. Felt so sorry for some of them kids. And I swear to god , some of those assholes got me so fired up it I really , really wanted to take it to a more serious level.....but I didn't want to make it so the kid couldn't come back and ride. I did however get my way and they started ( the moto dads ) acting a little more civil and followed my rules. THIS....on top of some other things , is what made me leave this sport completely for 6yrs. It ruined it for me.
cwtoyota wrote:
In the long run, it's better to stick around and be a positive influence in the sport. On a positive note, I race with a few...
In the long run, it's better to stick around and be a positive influence in the sport.

On a positive note, I race with a few guys who's kids are some of the faster mini riders in our area. They are so down to earth and it reflects in the maturity level of their sons on and off track. Since I have no kids of my own, it's really a pleasure to see them setting the example from the front of the pack.
I would have stuck around during those 6yrs , but there was other things from the track , and personal stuff that is what eventually drove me away. I can still say to this day , that teaching classes and working with all those kids....was the best part of my job. I , like you , never had any kids , so it was a pleasure ( and an honor actually ) to be able to do that. It is one of many reasons why I came back to the sport....I just love kids. My youngest student was 3yrs old....and my oldest student was 70yrs old. I had some great times during that part of my life. Being paid to do what I loved.
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5/14/2016 10:41pm
My dad is no longer alive but when i was a kid i got yelled at for trying to go too fast and for attempting stuff that i wasnt able to do. Not that i was fast or doing huge jumps or anything. Anyways i was always told i got yelled at because he didnt want me to get hurt by being dumb. He used to tell me its not about being the fastest or winning but instead about having fun. Thats whats sad. These parents are pissed at kids for not pushing hard enough and not being fast enough and they are taking the fun out of it
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FWYT wrote:
Makes me so appreciate how our dad was with us. We just went riding and it
was about having fun and riding wisely, being safe.
Perfect!
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My dad wanted nothing to do with racing (but did buy me my first minibike, so figure that), always telling me to quit that before you get hurt or there's always someone faster...was jealous of all the kids that had their dads taking them to the races. Saying that, most of the kids that I grew up racing I never see at the track anymore yet I'm still riding, so maybe not having the pressure of a "race dad" is better..
5/15/2016 6:18am
I ran a rather large youth basketball association for a few years. The younger parents think little Johnny is going to be the next superstar until they watch him play with other kids for a couple years then they realize hes not gonna be the next great thing and just settle down and let the kids enjoy the sport.
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I use to work for a promoter, I love working at the tracks and seeing kids and adults pumped on our tracks. With that said, mini parents can be vicious and I've had quite a few run ins with them. One particularly in our area thinks his kid is the next RC and even if his kid wins, if it isn't by a large gap he is yelling at that poor kid. We are at local races this isn't the pro series, just have fun so you don't ruin it for your kids!

On that note I'm so happy I had a dad that knew how to push me but keep it fun!
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5/15/2016 7:54am
Any young kids sport has crazy parents. Most kids of this parents quit by the time they are 10. Drug user by 13
5/15/2016 8:49am
You guys don't even know what crappy parents are until you've been to a youth wrestling tournament. Thata where you have every want to be bad ass dad in their tapout, affliction shirts on living through their sons and yellin at them and just belittling them if they don't do good enough for them.
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5/15/2016 9:01am Edited Date/Time 5/15/2016 9:07am
I have found that the first "clue" that you are dealing with a mini-parent is when they use "WE" to describe the kid's accomplishments.....as in "WE finished first at the Chickenlicks State Championship!"
These same parents will revert to "HE" when things don't go well....as in "HE didn't ride worth a shit!"
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5/15/2016 10:44am
I ran the MX side at Owyhee MC club in 96,97,98 ish in Boise idaho. Handling the adult racers was easy for the most part, of course there were always the guys that just knew little Johnny was gonna be the next McGrath or the like so they did everything to justify staying in the junior or intermediate class instead of facing reality and moving up.
What made me ultimately bail out was mini dad's, I had ano inherent problem with the all get a trophy so I didn't do it, caused a ton of friction of course. The final straw was a mom of a brand new rider demanded to me that her son be allowed to choose any trophy he wanted so he was happy about himself... it ended when I threw 3 boxes of trophies out the door and told her to take them all and see where her kid ends up in 20 years... it was the end of the year and I'd had enough. I haven't been back to OMC since 2001.
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Was at a LLQ and the first practice on Sunday morning was very muddy. The kid pitted next to us who did well Saturday pulled off the track instead of doing all the laps of practice. His dad sets him on the tailgate raising hell with him. He Is trying to help him get his boots off and jerks hard enough he slid forward and busted his head on the tailgate. Blood and all. What a piece of shit. I never did see that kid around any more. The boots was not unbuckled btw so you know they wasn't coming off.
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When my son was on minis, we were out at Elsinore and there was a dad yelling at his kid to the point that the little guy was in tears.

I went over to have a word with him.

I was being very calm and cool, just trying to explain to the guy that at this stage, the kid would probably improve more quickly if he was having fun.

The dude started going off on me.

Veins bulging, spittle flying...

I was getting ready to defend myself from a physical attack, when four other dads came to my aid.

The guy loaded his shit and left.

The poor kid probably got yelled at all the way home for causing his asshole dad to get confronted in public.

With guys like that, it's always the kid's fault.

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5/15/2016 12:03pm
I made the mistake of thinking that practicing law was not stressful enough so opened a MX track in Tucson in '76. About a year into it one night at about 1 a.m. in the morning as the Saturday night races were winding down, the mom and dad of a mini racer came up and were ready for battle. They both had clearly been "overserved" and thus were way smarter than the rest of us.

The hue and cry was why their little Johnnie did not get a trophy for 4th place when little Robbie in another class did get a trophy for 4th place. I checked the scoring sheets and explained that we trophy a third of the field, that their boy had finished 4th out of 5 entries and that the other young lad had finished 4th out of a field of 22 riders. They said "yeah, so what...they both finished 4th." We explained it a couple of more times to their blank faces and it ended up with us rolling around in the dirt.

About then I decided that I would rather get yelled at by judges while getting paid than be out there paying money to put on races and enduring the actions of these knuckle-dragging mouth breathers.

It is the same in every youth sport...sadly.
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5/15/2016 12:13pm Edited Date/Time 5/15/2016 12:19pm
Intermeshed identity. Insecure parents ego's extend through their children. They cannot allow them to fail, because they perceive that as a failure of there own. they ultimately feel the judgement of their children as their judgement. They cannot seperate themselves from their children because their ego is too fragile, and therefor supported by the people around them. This also extends to other family members and even friends as well to varying degrees.

You see this more in individual sports than anywhere else.
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5/15/2016 12:16pm
I never yelled or told my boys to do anything when they raced. I just watched. Now that my grandson is racing I do stand out on the side of the track and yell stuff like GO, Go, Go. I'm not one of them that yells at him to jump shit or stand beside a jump acting like they are holding a set of handlebars with the throttle pinned, yelling jump the whole time. If I don't at least stand there and encourage him his little mind will wonder off and he will be dead last and not even realize it. I never cuss him for sure. I don't see how any parent/grandparent/guardian could do that but there are some bad people out there.

I will say that the for the most part the kids that have those crazy yelling parents are usually running up front. There is a fine line I guess when it comes to pushing kids.

I think personally the worst I have ever seen was at Coyote Run (near Albany Ga.). The A class kid would get the hole shot and the other local A class kid would always start bad and by the end of the moto he caught and passed the other one in 4 straight A class moto's. The kid was a fast up and coming southeastern hot shoe so they were under pressure to perform. I even heard the dad yelling at him how much money they had just cost them as he was pushing the kid into the enclosed trailer rather forcefully. That conversation ended up continuing inside the trailer but I could not totally understand it. The kid did go pro but fizzled out. I think he may have even raced a little in Austrailia. He has since gotten out of professional racing. This all happened around 2005'ish. My youngest was there with me and saw it all as well. Shit, makes you want to get involved!!
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Katoomey wrote:
Intermeshed identity. Insecure parents ego's extend through their children. They cannot allow them to fail, because they perceive that as a failure of there own. they...
Intermeshed identity. Insecure parents ego's extend through their children. They cannot allow them to fail, because they perceive that as a failure of there own. they ultimately feel the judgement of their children as their judgement. They cannot seperate themselves from their children because their ego is too fragile, and therefor supported by the people around them. This also extends to other family members and even friends as well to varying degrees.

You see this more in individual sports than anywhere else.
Yep, some people feel the need to live vicariously through their offspring.

They seem to think they can cancel their own failures by driving their kids to success.

I found that some of the best learning experiences my kids ever had, was when I let them fail.

When I compare the way they turned out as adults to some of their childhood friends who grew up either enabled, or overly driven, I can see the difference it made.
5/15/2016 3:50pm
i tell my girl who is in gymnastics. do it for you,if you dont want it, it doesnt matter. if the kid isnt having fun they will probably be avg anyways. no not every single aspect is a super fun. lots of training,missing other things. none of that matters if they want it. not the parent. i tell her to take nights off. it comes from inside with some parental support.
i still feel my eyes rolling at a local race this kid angrily yells at his dad "wheres my supplements"...
i always want to give the mini dad my bike and say "show him what you mean"Whistling
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5/15/2016 4:38pm
k cycle wrote:
Several years ago I was at a LL regional qualifier and heard a mother of a 50 rider screaming, 'FASTER YOUR'E IN F***ING LAST!" I have...
Several years ago I was at a LL regional qualifier and heard a mother of a 50 rider screaming, 'FASTER YOUR'E IN F***ING LAST!" I have kids now and they play the usual "ball sports" and I have determined most parents are horrible people.
Yeah the whole crazy parent thing definitely isn't exclusive to mini racing. When I was a little kid playing sports I saw all sorts of crazy shit from parents in recreation leagues. So dumb

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