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h&m_cycle 5/11/2016 1:25pm
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johnnypotato123 wrote:
I don't think either Stewart would settle for anything less than a factory bike, and factory teams don't exactly rely on sponsorship to go racing so...
I don't think either Stewart would settle for anything less than a factory bike, and factory teams don't exactly rely on sponsorship to go racing so they want race wins and championships, TV time is just an added bonus. What I'm saying is they have no reason to hire either of them for anything other than a title contender and I personally don't think either of them would/will contend for the outdoor title.
Damn Johnnypotato, where did you find all that common sense at?

If the sport were larger, it's easier to pay someone for not winning...

NASCAR is big enough that Danica Patrick has a ride and sponsors and has little chance of winning...

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Or they could be on seven branded hondas... Whistling
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bsharkey wrote:
how many dudes would buy there bike from the team they raced with after they were done like he did at geico a few years back...
how many dudes would buy there bike from the team they raced with after they were done like he did at geico a few years back. I think that says something.there a lots of guys who have won lites championships who never won a race. then there are guys who have won races but no championship too then there are the guys who can win.. the top 20 are darn good riders let them enjoy it.its OK
Only guy I can think of is Tim Ferry that won a lites championship without a race win.
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gsxrcr28 5/11/2016 1:56pm
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EnvyMedia wrote:
You people must have a miserable life being so negative all the time.
I often think the same thing.

I think our esteemed member Team Green nailed it with his comment last week in one of the Stewart threads.

"Some of you seem to need to go out of your way to find something negative.
That says a lot about you & you should look in to that."

Congrats to Malcolm on a great season, and I hope both of them do whatever makes them happy this summer. Cool

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h&m_cycle wrote:
Damn Johnnypotato, where did you find all that common sense at? If the sport were larger, it's easier to pay someone for not winning... NASCAR is...
Damn Johnnypotato, where did you find all that common sense at?

If the sport were larger, it's easier to pay someone for not winning...

NASCAR is big enough that Danica Patrick has a ride and sponsors and has little chance of winning...

Haha, not sure! But I want to clarify I don't think Mookie would be much of a contender on a 250 outdoors this year, but I do think he has big potential on a 450 indoors and out.

So I guess I mean there isn't much reason for a factory to hire James, as much as I do want him to figure it out as he's had a lot of bad luck as of late.
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slipdog 5/11/2016 2:23pm
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EnvyMedia wrote:
You people must have a miserable life being so negative all the time.
gsxrcr28 wrote:
I often think the same thing. I think our esteemed member Team Green nailed it with his comment last week in one of the Stewart threads...
I often think the same thing.

I think our esteemed member Team Green nailed it with his comment last week in one of the Stewart threads.

"Some of you seem to need to go out of your way to find something negative.
That says a lot about you & you should look in to that."

Congrats to Malcolm on a great season, and I hope both of them do whatever makes them happy this summer. Cool
Just wait until the haters get wind of this...

http://racerxonline.com/2016/05/11/malcolm-stewart-forgoes-nationals-to…
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EnvyMedia wrote:
You people must have a miserable life being so negative all the time.
gsxrcr28 wrote:
I often think the same thing. I think our esteemed member Team Green nailed it with his comment last week in one of the Stewart threads...
I often think the same thing.

I think our esteemed member Team Green nailed it with his comment last week in one of the Stewart threads.

"Some of you seem to need to go out of your way to find something negative.
That says a lot about you & you should look in to that."

Congrats to Malcolm on a great season, and I hope both of them do whatever makes them happy this summer. Cool
slipdog wrote:
Just wait until the haters get wind of this...

http://racerxonline.com/2016/05/11/malcolm-stewart-forgoes-nationals-to…
Oh man so bummed Malcom out for outdoors. Thanks for the link.
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Phillip_Lamb 5/11/2016 2:42pm
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not surprised by this. He's a big guy for a 250 and he is good, but it would be like DM18 back in 05. he was getting smoked on starts and only had a few finishes worth mentioning.

but...

was he only contracted for SX?

why not race 450's outdoors? most likely Geico only has room for 1 450 (bogle who i can see leaving next year)

is Mookie with Geico next year? if not, i see this as a good thing for him. He needs time to get something together, right now silly season is happening behind closed doors, and if he is doing his own program (poss with Bubba) now is the time to line it all up and not in the months right before SX.

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Maybe he could do one or two privateer nationals at a couple tracks that he likes. You know, for some good exposure. I don't know if he actually has a ride for SX next year yet or not, but if he is going to race SX and MX, then a few good showings outdoors couldn't hurt his bargaining power.
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h&m_cycle 5/11/2016 3:14pm
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slipdog wrote:
Just wait until the haters get wind of this...

http://racerxonline.com/2016/05/11/malcolm-stewart-forgoes-nationals-to…
Cool Read the comment section below your link, it's classic, people actually thought he was racing THIS year and
didn't believe Matthes...

The haters are really hating now over at racer X thanks for the link... I like the comment about Malcolm going
fishing... Cool

EDIT: I think your thoughts are the haters will be eating crow now...
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Even though his starts were good in SX, he's a really big boy for a 250f. I'd like to see him this summer, but can't wait to see what he does on the 450!
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EnvyMedia wrote:
You people must have a miserable life being so negative all the time.
gsxrcr28 wrote:
I often think the same thing. I think our esteemed member Team Green nailed it with his comment last week in one of the Stewart threads...
I often think the same thing.

I think our esteemed member Team Green nailed it with his comment last week in one of the Stewart threads.

"Some of you seem to need to go out of your way to find something negative.
That says a lot about you & you should look in to that."

Congrats to Malcolm on a great season, and I hope both of them do whatever makes them happy this summer. Cool
slipdog wrote:
Just wait until the haters get wind of this...

http://racerxonline.com/2016/05/11/malcolm-stewart-forgoes-nationals-to…
Well imo skipping series are a mistake and actually will negatively impact his arc but he's earned the right to choose his own path
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Flatliner 5/11/2016 3:27pm
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Pastrana won a national title and he was 6'3 185.

On a bike with probably 10-15 hp less than the bike Malcolm is on.

I think everyone goes overboard on this size thing.
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davistld01 5/11/2016 3:30pm
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EnvyMedia wrote:
You people must have a miserable life being so negative all the time.
gsxrcr28 wrote:
I often think the same thing. I think our esteemed member Team Green nailed it with his comment last week in one of the Stewart threads...
I often think the same thing.

I think our esteemed member Team Green nailed it with his comment last week in one of the Stewart threads.

"Some of you seem to need to go out of your way to find something negative.
That says a lot about you & you should look in to that."

Congrats to Malcolm on a great season, and I hope both of them do whatever makes them happy this summer. Cool
slipdog wrote:
Just wait until the haters get wind of this...

http://racerxonline.com/2016/05/11/malcolm-stewart-forgoes-nationals-to…
Good for him. Smartest move, IMO.
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davistld01 5/11/2016 3:39pm
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gabrielito wrote:
It seems he may have hurt Yamaha sales more than he helped them due to the exposure he brings. I bet there isn't one person who...
It seems he may have hurt Yamaha sales more than he helped them due to the exposure he brings. I bet there isn't one person who bought a Suzuki because of the exposure James Stewart brought them. he certainly moves the needle when it comes to ratings and forum hits. Maybe his team should be the FX1, Feld, Vital MX Stewat Racing team. That is who benefits off of his exposure.
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Huh? Blink
gabrielito wrote:
Okay, I will say it slow for those who need it; The exposure JS7 brought to Yamaha did not help them sell bikes. If anything, it...
Okay, I will say it slow for those who need it;

The exposure JS7 brought to Yamaha did not help them sell bikes. If anything, it hurt them when he landed on his head a dozen times and blamed the bike.

The exposure JS7 brought to Suzuki by getting suspended for PED's and consistently not finishing races has not helped them sell bikes.

Team Stewart needs sponsors that can benefit from his exposure and the "any publicity is good publicity" marketing approach.
Okie Dokie, Mr. Douche! Whistling

You wasted your time, your typing skills and your opinion...but your spelling is spot on. Smile

None of what JS7 did while he was on Yamaha or Suzuki effected bikes sales for either manufacturer. The Yamaha 450 was a turd back then, and it didn't take Stewart getting a concussion to say that. Everybody else said it on their own...and nothing James said effected their marketability at all. It WAS the bike...not the rider. The fact that James got a WADA ban for the breaking the substance rule didn't hurt Suzuki's sales either, they have sold a LOT of Suzuki 450's no matter what James was or was not doing.

So, the only thing that's clearly evident and factual here is that you are a James Stewart hater. I get that.

Have a nice day!
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Dezerted 5/11/2016 3:45pm
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Somebody explain how skipping an entire series of racing is good for you and the next series you race? and how 3 months to train and ride supercross is not sufficient time to adapt to a 450?

Imo they (Stewart bro)do not like racing the outdoor series and I imagine some of it is for reasons other then racing but for god sakes just say it. You don't need 7-1/2 months to prepare for supercross

I personally would find it refreshing if they just said "it's fuckn hot and demanding on the body, there's a bunch of drunk racially charged idiots on the circuit and financially I just don't need to"
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He better have a deal with his brother in the works for next year because people investing in mx 2017 wont be impressed by this decision. I am not a hater I am a fan and was really looking forward to seeing him at the gate and part of the show this year. I am not surprised, just bummed.

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Phillip_Lamb 5/11/2016 5:01pm
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Flatliner wrote:
Pastrana won a national title and he was 6'3 185. On a bike with probably 10-15 hp less than the bike Malcolm is on. I think...
Pastrana won a national title and he was 6'3 185.

On a bike with probably 10-15 hp less than the bike Malcolm is on.

I think everyone goes overboard on this size thing.
bad example as he didnt quite have the stacked field as today. He was against Brown and Langston but 125s created more mistakes than a 250f and he barely won the 2000 title, and his huge lead in 2001 was aided by and injured GL

. james won all but one moto in 2004 on a 125 vs 250fs, BUT he never got a good start and mookie is bigger than james, plus bikes make more power today than ten years ago.

a better comparision is when Kdub raced a 250f in 2010?? his qual lap was 3rd but he barely, was in the top 20 come race time. He got buried in starts and his weight meant he couldnt make up ground by riding harder. he was about 6'3 195.
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DownSouth 5/11/2016 5:28pm
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Mookie must be really worn out from 9 weeks of racing. Good thing he has 8 months to rest and get ready for A1. Whistling

That makes 18 AMA races in 104 weeks. Plus a couple of euro SX's tossed in.
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If 8 months is good for getting ready for supercross, imagine what you could do with 18 months!
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DownSouth wrote:
Mookie must be really worn out from 9 weeks of racing. Good thing he has 8 months to rest and get ready for A1. :whistle: That...
Mookie must be really worn out from 9 weeks of racing. Good thing he has 8 months to rest and get ready for A1. Whistling

That makes 18 AMA races in 104 weeks. Plus a couple of euro SX's tossed in.
If you work hard enough to win a championship you can make enough money to do what you want. Good for him Smile
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downard254 wrote:
Well, Uptite said you wouldn't see James at Hangtown on a Suzuki, or was it that we would never see James on a Yosh Suzuki again...
Well, Uptite said you wouldn't see James at Hangtown on a Suzuki, or was it that we would never see James on a Yosh Suzuki again. Anyway, at least we don't have too long to wait. Now, where'd I leave my popcorn.
Wandell wrote:
Uptite said we wouldn't see JS7 on the Suzuki again. Uptite also told us that Webb had an injured wrist and some people didn't believe him...
Uptite said we wouldn't see JS7 on the Suzuki again. Uptite also told us that Webb had an injured wrist and some people didn't believe him. Well, he was obviously right about that. Just saying...
You guys give a nobody from Kern County a lot of cred.
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gsxrcr28 wrote:
I often think the same thing. I think our esteemed member Team Green nailed it with his comment last week in one of the Stewart threads...
I often think the same thing.

I think our esteemed member Team Green nailed it with his comment last week in one of the Stewart threads.

"Some of you seem to need to go out of your way to find something negative.
That says a lot about you & you should look in to that."

Congrats to Malcolm on a great season, and I hope both of them do whatever makes them happy this summer. Cool
slipdog wrote:
Just wait until the haters get wind of this...

http://racerxonline.com/2016/05/11/malcolm-stewart-forgoes-nationals-to…
davistld01 wrote:
Good for him. Smartest move, IMO.
You got a little on your chin.
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stremme12 5/11/2016 5:56pm
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early wrote:
If 8 months is good for getting ready for supercross, imagine what you could do with 18 months!
I see what you did there.
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early wrote:
If 8 months is good for getting ready for supercross, imagine what you could do with 18 months!
stremme12 wrote:
I see what you did there.
I guess he meant stitching up a deal takes time, perhaps they want to concentrate on doing that instead of racing the nationals ?
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EnvyMedia wrote:
You people must have a miserable life being so negative all the time.
gsxrcr28 wrote:
I often think the same thing. I think our esteemed member Team Green nailed it with his comment last week in one of the Stewart threads...
I often think the same thing.

I think our esteemed member Team Green nailed it with his comment last week in one of the Stewart threads.

"Some of you seem to need to go out of your way to find something negative.
That says a lot about you & you should look in to that."

Congrats to Malcolm on a great season, and I hope both of them do whatever makes them happy this summer. Cool
slipdog wrote:
Just wait until the haters get wind of this...

http://racerxonline.com/2016/05/11/malcolm-stewart-forgoes-nationals-to…
Slip.... Will they be on Seven branded Hondas?
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slipdog 5/11/2016 7:16pm
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bvm111 wrote:
Slip.... Will they be on Seven branded Hondas?
I've heard some things, but not that.


I also heard JLaw was making a comeback, but I'm still waiting... Laughing
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stremme12 5/11/2016 7:20pm
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early wrote:
If 8 months is good for getting ready for supercross, imagine what you could do with 18 months!
stremme12 wrote:
I see what you did there.
kiwifan wrote:
I guess he meant stitching up a deal takes time, perhaps they want to concentrate on doing that instead of racing the nationals ?
I thought it was more a stab at his brother and how he took 18 months off and rested and it clearly didn't work out for him.

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