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and shinobi had water cooled heads for sale before Yamaha had water cooling
you cant address them there facts i posted cause they nailed you
funny for me, slightly embarrassing for you
People buying 60K Crew Cab diesels tossing on another 30 grand in shit, you name it.
Hell, people were buying Toyhaulers and motorhomes just to buy one.
Despite the reports, have you seen the gates at some local races? They run 4-5 classes together at once now at times.
Those days are gone for most. Now people are back to looking at cheap or cheaper recreation.
Where a dad can rebuild a bike after work. For a few extra bucks.
When will Honda produce more power? When will the Kawasaki handle better/lose some weight? When will Yamaha have air forks? When will the Jap manufacturers produce FE's like KTM does to make more money and help their factory teams?
Answer to all of them is no one here knows, so pointless to ask.
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Peike (especially) and Nicolleti seem to be indicating the 450s are just as potent as the 250s.
And the hydraulic clutch is only good if you like the feel it has.
There is a reason the Honda guys stopped using it. KTMs and Huskys come stock with them, thus they have to use them no matter what the rider likes.
I would like to see the results as well.
Better yet, lets talk to actual mechanics that work in the industry.
Yamaha is on the list. As are other brands, one more noticeable than others.
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2 of the Yamaha Recalls were for the master link on the chain (DID) same recall but 2 listings. The big one was the rod casting issue the rods where out of spec and could cause engine lock up it was some 500 units. No brand is perfect but Yamaha's have been proven to be reliable and they stand behind their product, one of the only manufacturers that actually have a 30 day warranty.
I guess the recalls (see Iceman446's link) tell more of a story....looks like Yamaha isnt the worse but nor is Suzuki or Honda (in fact they are better), you have to go way back to 2008 to see a Honda recall for example
I am thinking of going to Suzuki next year, depends on what comes out from all the manufacturers....I normally have the luxury of being able to try them all (except the KTM FE, but I aint forking out $10k+ for a frigging bike).
Those KTMs are doing ok off the start tho.
IMO Yamahas have good engines (but all modern bikes do), but their ergonomics are just terrible. The yz450 is one of the most awkward feeling bike I have ever been on.....the shrouds are about 4 inches to wide, maybe more. One of my riding bros has a 14 250f. The engine is good, but it pushes terrible. I could not get that thing to stay in a rut if my life depended on it. i certainly don't see where their new 250f is soooo much better than a Honda or kawasaki.
Yamaha will never abandon that engine design.
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