'09 Hondas?

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RCC104 8/20/2008 12:55pm
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Besides everything thats already been mentioned I've also heard the CRF450 is going to lose A LOT of weight....

if its as much as I heard I'm definitely ditching the YZF

TheWeapon 8/20/2008 1:03pm
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TheWeapon wrote:
Anyone heard when they will be released? Spy pics?

I have heard a few whispers about EFI on the 450....
Actually there is some news that the new 250f Husky has the lightest 250F engine ever, and the bike will have a dry weight of 92kg....which puts it at the same or less than the Jap bikes. Not that I'd buy a Husky....
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ratonmacias 8/20/2008 1:19pm
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TheWeapon wrote:
Anyone heard when they will be released? Spy pics?

I have heard a few whispers about EFI on the 450....
TheWeapon wrote:
Actually there is some news that the new 250f Husky has the lightest 250F engine ever, and the bike will have a dry weight of 92kg....which...
Actually there is some news that the new 250f Husky has the lightest 250F engine ever, and the bike will have a dry weight of 92kg....which puts it at the same or less than the Jap bikes. Not that I'd buy a Husky....
yes new engine for the tc and te 250 bikes but the 310 is the older engine with a big bore kit and steel valves as light as the queen mary's anchor.
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davis224 8/20/2008 2:07pm
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the only 09 mx bike I've seen so far at the dealer I work for is the KX250f, still haven't uncrated it yet. I'll be sure to rip the crate apart and take super secret insider cell phone pics if any hondas come in soon though.

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drummer dude 8/20/2008 2:21pm
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Cygnus wrote:
I want an 09 CR500AF !
kaw rider9 wrote:
Wrong!!!!

09KX250AF!!!!!

I don't think I could handle a 500, So a two fiddy is for me!!!!

suzukirm12594 wrote:
Youre both wrong!!! Make that a suzuki.
yes,a rm250af would be the ultimate. throw in the gold rims.swwwwweeeeeeettttt!!!!!
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al990 8/20/2008 3:06pm
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TheWeapon wrote:
Anyone heard when they will be released? Spy pics?

I have heard a few whispers about EFI on the 450....
ive heard honda here in norway have a picture but they cant show it to anyone..honda always wait so long on releasing thoe pics of the great bike.
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RCC104 wrote:
Besides everything thats already been mentioned I've also heard the CRF450 is going to lose A LOT of weight.... if its as much as I heard...
Besides everything thats already been mentioned I've also heard the CRF450 is going to lose A LOT of weight....

if its as much as I heard I'm definitely ditching the YZF

Where did you hear that from?
motoman0 8/20/2008 5:04pm
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Remember when you went LL to see the new bikes........Those were the days!
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Motodork 8/20/2008 5:11pm
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the 09 yamaha is already in dealers in our area
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todder 8/20/2008 5:18pm
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woody woodpecker wrote:
The manager of the factory Honda team in europe said this- "The bike for next year is fantastic, I think it will surprise a lot of...
The manager of the factory Honda team in europe said this- "The bike for next year is fantastic, I think it will surprise a lot of people- it is something completely different and i think we will be able to compare it to the introduction of the aluminium-framed bike." Sounds good.
What else would he say? The 09's are sort of crappy?
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Nothing makes me laugh more than "I heard" on a message board.
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Wasn't the 97 - 98 CR 250 voted the most dangerous design due to the super rigid POS frame that would vibrate so hard you would get arm pump before the gate dropped. It had a strong motor but the high-siding POS caused more injuries than all the other brands combined. A few pro's would not even ride it especially MC. He said that bike would end his career. You could case a jump over and over on another brand but case that same jump on one of those two bikes and break an ankle or shatter your heels. I hope it is not like those years bike. I can't wait to see the new Honda. I will finaly be healed enough to ride by then and might want to get back on a fresh new bike.
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rc4187 8/20/2008 5:49pm
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FLmxer wrote:
Wasn't the 97 - 98 CR 250 voted the most dangerous design due to the super rigid POS frame that would vibrate so hard you would...
Wasn't the 97 - 98 CR 250 voted the most dangerous design due to the super rigid POS frame that would vibrate so hard you would get arm pump before the gate dropped. It had a strong motor but the high-siding POS caused more injuries than all the other brands combined. A few pro's would not even ride it especially MC. He said that bike would end his career. You could case a jump over and over on another brand but case that same jump on one of those two bikes and break an ankle or shatter your heels. I hope it is not like those years bike. I can't wait to see the new Honda. I will finaly be healed enough to ride by then and might want to get back on a fresh new bike.
i had a '98 and cased many jumps... ankles still intact Smile
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FLmxer 8/20/2008 6:30pm
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I had one and raced it every weekend for a while and did well but it really was way to rigid. The motor was really good and that made up for it for me.

EID is probably yelling at some one on the mic while this shot was taken.Whistling
xnationalwrench 8/20/2008 6:46pm
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motoman0 wrote:
Remember when you went LL to see the new bikes........Those were the days!
Back in the day all you had to do was go to Saddleback and see the R&D teams testing the next years models. Dizzy
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kawasa84 8/20/2008 7:22pm
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Factory Photo is saying one of the rumors for the 09 Honda's is Kayaba suspension??? I believe Honda owns a large interest in the Showa company. Does that mean they're saying their own company can't compete with KYB? Please someone give me some feedback.
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Says it right here bro..
＜CRF450R＞ ● エンジン
Honda独創のメカニズムであり、コンパクトなエンジンを実現したユニカムバルブトレインを引き続き採用しながら、低・中速、伸び領域のドライバビリティー向上を図るため、ギアポジションセンサーを新たに追加。各ギアで最適な点火時期のコントロールを実現。またクランクシャフトの軽量化や、クラッチアウターおよびクラッチセンターに二硫化モリブデンコート処理を施すなど、細部にわたって改良を実施している。

j/k its just a strong rumor nobody knows shizzle until press release.

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andymoto 8/20/2008 9:36pm
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Believe Hondas done the el suspension swappo before.....Might've been on two stroke 125....? Talkin' long while back....10-15 yr ago.....Or Suzook did it...Take your pick.
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GuyB 8/20/2008 9:39pm
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The new Hondas have _______________, _______________, and now boast _______ horsepower. They also have an all-new ______________, and come stock from the factory with ___________________.

(No, I don't have any more info or photos than you guys. I'm still awaiting my '09 press kit.)
rockcrawlerdude 8/20/2008 10:04pm
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new color option plastics, renthal big bars, 60 hp, aluminum frame, rental bike when yours breaks....
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todder 8/20/2008 10:16pm
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andymoto wrote:
Believe Hondas done the el suspension swappo before.....Might've been on two stroke 125....? Talkin' long while back....10-15 yr ago.....Or Suzook did it...Take your pick.
All the CR125s had KYB components from around 97 to 2006 so its no big deal for Honda to use them again. .
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Tiki 8/20/2008 10:17pm
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Adam43 wrote:
I hear:

EFI

KYB suspension

New plastic/bodywork

5th generation frame



Big changes. I'm looking forward to it, but this is gonna be one expensive bike.
KYB?

Honda owns Showa. Why would they use KYB? Not saying its not possible just odd.

The 97 was a powerhouse. Great for straight lines.
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TokioMX 8/20/2008 10:50pm
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Tiki wrote:
KYB?

Honda owns Showa. Why would they use KYB? Not saying its not possible just odd.

The 97 was a powerhouse. Great for straight lines.
CRs had KYB before. Didn't 125 had Showa forks and KYB shock one year? Honda want to make both company happy or something. I think 125 came with Dunlops and 250 came with Bridgestone (or the other way) in same year model too.

"I've heard" Honda is having a press test day on Sep. 10th in Japan. so info should be available about that time.
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Neutra 8/21/2008 12:22am
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It suposed to have side panels/rear fender combo like the ktm. Hopefully done with better taste. ;-)
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CR 250 had KYB in 95-96 but those sucked too.
brakkeman_ 8/21/2008 5:16am
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it should be KYB in the front and showa on the back.

Calimero said it was awesome on our flemish message board, if it was crap he would say it too lol Laughing
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moto111 8/21/2008 7:29am
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Yup its true, going linkageless, like the KTMs. Definitley a step forward.
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Lightning78 8/21/2008 7:41am
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That Showa to KYB switch (if true) baffles me too because like mentioned above they own Showa..... as for the 97 CR I had one of those and the engine was downright fast, awesome power and revved to the moon that year. Funny someone mentioned the shattered heels and chronic highside problems because BOTH happened on that bike 1 shattered heel and one violent highside, other than that the seat could crush diamonds but overall I really liked that bike...

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