Lappers...

jett wasent the only 1 complaining about lappers tho lol 

Chase commented on them also and was pretty harsh lol. 
 

This track has always been notorious for lappers right? Tough track to get out of the way on. Part of doing business at unadilla

The lappers where a real problem in the first moto especially.. Trust me. Chase got the worst of it. His crash was caused by him having to change his line. He was going outside all day and Jett was going inside making time on him. When he cut back to the inside to get around a lapper he got rut whipped.

Once you pick a rut on that track, you’re there until that rut ends. I feel Chase and Jett need to be picking different lines. There were plenty to choose from, that’s for sure. 

Plenty of areas not rutted as the riders where going off track all day. Not sure what the guy was thinking but he was racing himself and Just got ripped by Jett with blue flags going crazy. In the glory days they used to slow down and GTFO of the way.

Did RC, Stew, Reed, RV or RD ever complain about lappers? I’m sure they did at some point, but never on the broadcast…

It’s hard to get out of the way rut racing.  With that said some of the lapper’s tried to race leaders as they were passing in corners.  Pretty sure that’s what the complaints were about.  

There are obvious solutions to lappers but we will never address them.

same as all the first turn pile ups. 

Blue Flag = there is a race going on and you’re not a part of it! 

Your battle for 27th isn’t that important in the grand scheme of things and you’re getting lapped … Get out of the effing way!  

I don't know what the lappers are supposed to do . You in a rut you are stuck in it . Again it's another reason why I hate this type of track prep. Ruts in corner s fine. Ruts full length of straight s is so stupid 

100% this^^^
 

sorry Mr Jett and who ever else that the lapper didn’t move over so you can stay in your perfect little race line. You are faster, find a way around or wait for the lapper that got the blue flag to move over at his first safe opportunity as the blue flags intent. It’s not meant to immediately pull over. Jett’s should know all to well it’s not easy to simply get out or over a rut as he tipped it “getting out of the way” in qualifying. Lappers are part of racing always has, always will.  When there is money on the line, everyone is in “the race”. 

In my opinion, the only thing a lapper should be expected to do for a blue flag is hold a predictable line. Not stop, move over, slow down, etc

Are you just going to completely ignore sextons moto 1 podium interview? Agree with the rule or not it’s a rule and the lappers should be making way for the riders on the lead lap to the best of their ability. 

They should handle it like elite mountain biking and cross.  80% rule and you get pulled.  This eliminates getting lapped and keeps the race where the race is.  No disrespect to lappers as they are still crazy fast and this still allows them to race until they are actually in the way.

As an easy example, if the leader’s first lap time is 10:00, then 80% of that would be 8:00.  Should a rider fall 8:00 behind the leader, they are pulled from the race.  The official steps out on the course and black flags the rider(s)

The blue flag needs updated rules and real enforcement. If you are passing for position while getting blue flag, DQ and fined. While on that, flaggers need better training and we need actual safety officials in those positions rather than random Vital users and guys looking for a free lunch. 

Not sorry, get over yourselves. We have $10 million to put into the purse and keep riders from going to WSX but no extra money to increase safety and training of the crew working the race. 

Lappers in motocross, that new, how unique!

Let's face it we have all been lappers, some of us may also be leppers.

Get over it, you're paid to put on the show for us fans,  there are man different obstacles out on the track, lapper are just one.

Be fantastic if one of these lappers in a panic tried to get out of the way and took a race leader out. Then he'd be the bad guy then too. Fast guys should always be able to find a way around. Rut-o-cross has it's drawbacks. 

This. I don’t get the ”there has always been lappers” mentality?

If you are a pro rider that can qualify top 40, you should have enough awareness at what happens around you that you can get out of the way when the leader comes. If you can’t you simply has NOTHING to do at a pro level race.

In F1 if you get a blue flag you have a short period of time to get out of the way and then you get a penalty.

i could not care less about when the 31-32 guys are batteling for their spots, the leaders fight IS more important, just because they are the LEADERS and the race is there to find out who is numer one, not number 31..

It seemed extra bad in that moto because they barely missed the 2 lap board by seconds.   That made the moto longer than usual, got them further into more lappers and further up the order into "faster" lappers who aren't expecting to be lapped and are also racing for higher positions that they don't want to just give up.   Basically, this could have been prevented if the track was a few seconds longer.

The way the rule is written I don’t see a problem with how lappers have been handling things like this. Pretty vague almost to the point where an offense would be unpunishable. It’s also written in a way that the top guys lapping riders shouldn’t be so miffed about it when they get held up.

That being said, if you have a top guy grabbing the flag from a flagger in practice, maybe the rule isn’t as much the problem…

Thought lappers are just support hold their line, not get out the way? IMO the problem occurs when the leader gets by a lapper and then the lapper thinks I better move over and often times the 2nd place guy is where the lapper moves to as they were anti overtime around the outside of the lapper 

Let’s just change the rule like a yellow flag, no passing so even if they are in a battle the rider in the front can slow down, move to the side without beeing in danger to lose a position. 

So some of you think Jett and Chase, the two best riders in the country, who lap guys every single time they ride, don’t realise that it’s harder to get out of the way when there’s long ruts?! That’s an interesting take…..

Ever stop to think it may have actually been worse than normal? And that with a championship being decided, stress levels are a little bit higher than average?
They’re just saying what’s on their mind, enjoy it. Unless you’d rather hear who their sponsors are???

So if you have a bad lap due to a wreck,  that's it?

Surely you read the immediate replies to your first post.

If so then why did it only make Jett look entitled and arrogant and not Chase?
They both complained "on live TV like that".

Every year lately on vital, people(& riders) act like they've never heard of lappers and first turn crashes.  Yeah, let's institute a rule to pull riders from the race I'm they aren't within a certain zone. Then watch those riders stop showing and trying, them people will piss and moan about low rider count, then fans stop showing up too when it becomes too sanitised. Unfuckinbelivable what people whine about these days. How often in MX history has a lapper really cost a race win or championship??? Throughout all mx history.