Ducati + Webb 2024 Rumor

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Edited Date/Time 5/19/2023 10:47am

The rumor mill has blown my mind today when I ran across a very respectably-crafted webcast called The Moto Aftermath Show. 

We've been talking about Triumph for two years now...  but Ducati? This is huge news, at least to me. And to hear Webb might be in discussions with them for 2024 Supercross is one of the wildest rumors I've ever heard in this sport. If any of this is true, can we assume Ducati has a bona fide 450 MX bike close to being announced? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1urtNlaEyU&t=244 

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5/19/2023 10:47am

I’ve never heard of them. If they were respected before they won’t be any longer. 

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5/19/2023 10:53am

I’ve never heard of them. If they were respected before they won’t be any longer. 

You're kidding right? 

Ducati is one of the most successful street bike brands in the world. Winning at the highest level in MotoGP. They are basically the Ferrari of motorcycles. 

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jonesaustin
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5/19/2023 10:55am

 

someone's presumed mockup but trick sub frame design.

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defeatist45
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5/19/2023 10:55am

I’ve never heard of them. If they were respected before they won’t be any longer. 

Zoom wrote:
You're kidding right?  Ducati is one of the most successful street bike brands in the world. Winning at the highest level in MotoGP. They are basically...

You're kidding right? 

Ducati is one of the most successful street bike brands in the world. Winning at the highest level in MotoGP. They are basically the Ferrari of motorcycles. 

I believe he is referring to the podcast 

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5/19/2023 10:56am

I’ve never heard of them. If they were respected before they won’t be any longer. 

Zoom wrote:
You're kidding right?  Ducati is one of the most successful street bike brands in the world. Winning at the highest level in MotoGP. They are basically...

You're kidding right? 

Ducati is one of the most successful street bike brands in the world. Winning at the highest level in MotoGP. They are basically the Ferrari of motorcycles. 

I think he may be talking about the show, not the company

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jonesaustin
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5/19/2023 11:00am

I think he may be talking about the show, not the company

I hadn't heard of the show before but I think these guys' approach makes for a pretty compelling webcast. I'm impressed.

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5/19/2023 11:00am
Zoom wrote:
You're kidding right?  Ducati is one of the most successful street bike brands in the world. Winning at the highest level in MotoGP. They are basically...

You're kidding right? 

Ducati is one of the most successful street bike brands in the world. Winning at the highest level in MotoGP. They are basically the Ferrari of motorcycles. 

The who of motorcycles?

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5/19/2023 11:05am

Whoever Ducati gets they should be motivated to test and develop a new motorcycle and be a part of Ducatis global racing presence across all forms of motorcycle racing. I don't know if Webb fits that description but he is fast and smart. 

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5/19/2023 11:13am

Did Robb Beams really just pronounce Clément Desalle (Klem-it Duh-Sall-ee)?! Laughing What little credibility he had as it relates to "insider knowledge" just disappeared.

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jonesaustin
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5/19/2023 11:13am

Who of you had heard of this? I mean, if this has been common knowledge, I would have expected Ducati to have been discussed  as much if not MORE than Triumph. If the rumors for 2024 Supercross are true, then you have to believe the bike is on the same schedule as Triumph's. Come 2024, we may have more brands on the track then even going back to the 70's.

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5/19/2023 11:18am

There have been rumblings for a bit now that Ducati was entering motocross, Lewis and Adam Wheeler talked about it a bit on the last Vital MXGP podcast. That being said I HIGHLY doubt there is any truth to the rumour that they are talking with Webb. From the sounds of it they are still a couple years away from having a team at all let alone signing a guy like Webb. 

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5/19/2023 11:18am

Is it really outrageous to think that Ducati is going to bust out the checkbook? I would think the only current riders who would be a hard no is Jett and Chase. They feel they are the absolute favorites and I think anyone else can be swayed by enough money. 

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5/19/2023 11:21am

In a post about the Triump, Ducati was recently mentioned but I think it was going to be a year behind in 2025. 

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enketchum
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5/19/2023 12:08pm

desmosedici in a motocross bike? How often will the belt need to be tensioned?

 

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5/19/2023 12:09pm
McG194 wrote:
Is it really outrageous to think that Ducati is going to bust out the checkbook? I would think the only current riders who would be a...

Is it really outrageous to think that Ducati is going to bust out the checkbook? I would think the only current riders who would be a hard no is Jett and Chase. They feel they are the absolute favorites and I think anyone else can be swayed by enough money. 

I agree and I’ll take it a step further and say I would think you damn near need to expect Ducati to bust out the checkbook. 

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5/19/2023 12:40pm
enketchum wrote:

desmosedici in a motocross bike? How often will the belt need to be tensioned?

 

I understand what you are saying but "Desmosedici" means 16 valves. The generic "Desmo" term is just a fully mechanical valve actuation without springs. Who knows how many valves they will use, it could be 3 or 4. Most likely this engine will be referred to as a "Desmoquattro." 

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5/19/2023 12:45pm
enketchum wrote:

desmosedici in a motocross bike? How often will the belt need to be tensioned?

 

They already put a Desmo in an mx bike, but it was bevel drive.

Ducati

 

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5/19/2023 12:56pm Edited Date/Time 5/19/2023 1:00pm

The market is limited, but an enduro version of a nice mx platform can make it worthwhile. It can be considered as advertising if that just make it break even. They may have some demand for some adventure bikes from their network too, or they want to expand their showroom floor. I think the branding helps to sell, and I guess they would come up with something nice. I hope they can go live, just because the more bikes the better, the more rides too. A good question is will they manage to get to this 500 units rule (should be 200?) to be homologated unlike TM, Beta, or Sherco ? Will the "new" 4 or 5 make a little lobby too ? (maybe based on rmz numbers too?)

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5/19/2023 1:35pm

I’ve never heard of them. If they were respected before they won’t be any longer. 

Zoom wrote:
You're kidding right?  Ducati is one of the most successful street bike brands in the world. Winning at the highest level in MotoGP. They are basically...

You're kidding right? 

Ducati is one of the most successful street bike brands in the world. Winning at the highest level in MotoGP. They are basically the Ferrari of motorcycles. 

I meant to start/say the rumor that ducati is gonna have Webb.

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studworx
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5/19/2023 1:52pm

Along with the original rumor was a TM/Ducati alliance of some sort.

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5/19/2023 1:59pm
studworx wrote:

Along with the original rumor was a TM/Ducati alliance of some sort.

Oh really?  Now that would be cool....use some of Ducati's clout to help bring TM more manufacturing, R&D etc.

TMs have always been freaking sweet.

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5/19/2023 2:39pm

the production rule would be the biggest hurdle for Ducati to be in for next year,  needing to import 400 450's has always been an issue for TM I believe, which is why they have never had a bike in USA SX, 

 

Ducati is owned by the VW group,  so if they want to go and do it, they have the financial backing, 

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5/19/2023 4:12pm

Ducati has spoken to some US teams but one told me the timeline for their entry was 2026 for US Supercross.

No chance this rumor for 2024 has any truth.

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5/19/2023 4:45pm

Wow, exciting times for MX, now and in the future.

Stark Varg, Beta, Triumph and Ducati.

 

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5/19/2023 4:56pm

I agree and I’ll take it a step further and say I would think you damn near need to expect Ducati to bust out the checkbook. 

Enea Bastianini $2.5 million Ducati Lenovo  2024

Francesco Bagnaia $5 million Ducati Lenovo  2024

I went to that site but couldn’t find this info?

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Ducati has poached F1 engineers to work on there motoGP aero packages, I think they have a couple bucks to throw around if they want.

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Darrin Willis
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5/19/2023 5:54pm

As a ducati owner I approve of this rumor.!

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5/19/2023 6:18pm

this rumor is so ludicrous i couldn’t imagine it has any truth behind it . 

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