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How many of these guys always have epstein barr, chronic fatigue and all this other stuff you dont hear of in other sports. Remember kennys few years of mystery illness? Also remember in sx when every single guy had that illness that was going around in january? These guys are running on the ragged edge and their bodies cant handle any illness theyre exposed to.
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Predictable?
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There definitely is something to this. We are in a new era of allowing guys personalities to show a looot more, but the previous “the ryans” era those guys were robots… and it definitely affected them. Both guys retired early. RV is right when he says dunge had it even harder because he had almost no injuries so he just kept going mx to sx to mx to sx over and over and over. RV missed quite a few outdoors due to injury and lost that sx season. Before AP overtrained himself and ran himself into the ground the 3...
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Sounds like it might be time for some of these guys to go back the 90s. Hit the desert, do some free riding, drink a beer and smoke some weed to recover. Who can argue against that? Well other than some over the hill Vitards 😁
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Must have missed the posts by guys saying they felt sorry for the top pros. All I saw was a discussion about maximizing training. Keep on with your bad self. Super edgy
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Aldons program tends to do better with, no disrespect intended, chunkier riders. The dudes that have a little thicker build and can carry some weight equals having some reserves in the tank. The thinner riders like AC and AP are left with nothing at the end of the day and over the course of the incredibly long season their bodies break down more. Look at the guys that have run his program with multiple championships, RC, RV, RD and CW intermittently. They have thicker builds. He does tend to burn them out though.
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I personally know one pretty successful pro who wouldn't ride motos any other day than Wednesday's, 2-30's and as many sprint laps as he could do. Light gym work 3 days a week, and a casual bike ride 4 days a week to spin the legs out and do light cardio work. Plenty of time was spent in the hills play riding though, and I think that's what's being ignored the most. Proper nutrition and finding a way to keep the fun in doing the job. The Hunta brothers seem to have this down to a science.
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Aldon gets way to much credit, everyone talks like he is a god. He just got a few riders that was going to win with or with out him cause champs are champs.
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Confidence is great, but there's another word for it if you're that confident in beating your head against a wall. This was kind of my original point. There's believing and there's knowing. These guys need people who truly know telling them what to do based on evidence of what works. That's what other sports have and that's far more confidence inspiring than just believing something to be true.
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And they probably ate like horses. You have to eat food. This shit of burning 2500 calories while they eat some carrots is a slow march to death.
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PVB Liked a reply to forum topic If everyone knows these guys are overtraining why dont they change?

7/12/2025 4:19pm
It seems that something is being done wrong. I've heard more than one rider say they "ran out of steam". Pre-1985 the moto's were 40 minutes plus 2 and the fit riders would say the last 10 minutes were when they would hit it harder.
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ando Liked a reply to forum topic If everyone knows these guys are overtraining why dont they change?

7/12/2025 4:18pm
Sport science has evolved way beyond just doing “what you believe” is good enough. Any pro taking that approach is going to be left in the dust of the guys who are training in a specific and tailored way. These days it’s not enough for an elite MX rider to just be good at twisting the throttle. You need to arm yourself with the right knowledge about fitness, training, diet etc.
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aees Liked a reply to forum topic If everyone knows these guys are overtraining why dont they change?

7/12/2025 4:18pm
Neither does F1, NASCAR and so on and you can argue that they would benefit more from being Intune with their sport since its such high speed, small margins and fast reaction times needed. A marathon runner dont run marathons leading up to big competitions. They run 3k, 5k 10k max etc. It's rare you train at full pace for anything else than sprint related stuff. Not even soccer or hockey players do 20 vs 45min games during week.
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ando Liked a reply to forum topic If everyone knows these guys are overtraining why dont they change?

7/12/2025 4:18pm
I forget which episode but Jase made an interesting point on Gypsy Tails - MotoGP riders don’t go out and ride one hour practice races each week. Maybe you could argue that road racing isn’t as physical as MX but rugby players, to use one example, don’t play a full length practice game each week. I’m no expert but I’ve trained for a bunch of endurance events and again, no part of the program involves simulating the full event - it’s way too draining. Motocross seems quite quirky in that regard - even though the riders are contracted to a...
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7/12/2025 4:17pm
No pro should be doing 30min full speed motos in the middle of season. You will just break down the body. Exception is maybe if you coming of an injury. Do some sprint laps, 10min heaters max, ride with one arm, ride only standing up at 70%, practise technique. We get 1h zone 5 on race days. In other endurance sports at elite level 45min is max recommended, in total per week. Our nerve system gets hammered and it puts the body under constant drain. Think it was DV12 who also said he never/rarely did 30s. Just practised technique during...
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7/12/2025 4:16pm
When I was racing I did motos after work two days a week. In between , I drank beers and went fishing. Didnt hurt my two race day finishes on the weekends at all. I still finished mid pack in 125B and mid pack in 250C as well. No need to step up my training at all. It was perfect!
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Aldon has also said he'd rather guys have a short career and a lot of championships than the other way round. He don't care about burn out
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AC, Broc Tickle, and Roczen have all talked about how depleted they felt at Baker's Factory. Aldon got lucky with guys that were already champs, which gave him instant credibility. I'd choose Peter Park any day of the week over that concentration camp if I was in their shoes...
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Have to have the knowledge and confidence to know that what you're doing is correct. As it is everyone errs on the side of doing too much because harder to criticize that approach. Other sports have guys in charge of their training that have studied training for that sport to the smallest detail and have phds in it. This sport has a lot of guys that "learned a lot over the years." This sport just doesn't value knowledge. It's that simple. Everyone thinks you just train and test and tough it out and that's how you achieve peak performance. Imagine...
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Are they worried they are going to forget how to ride a bike by cutting down from 4 to 3 days a week?
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