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Yes but gas gas resale value is terrible

Again the dealer would have to take me to court if they wanted the bike back. I would have no interest in losing $9K to make up for the dealers screw up.

Is that the Obama care that raised insurance costs 75%? Someone name three good things that worthless fucker did in 8 years.

Snowmobiling may be more niche than dirt bikes but the way snowmobilers organize, contribute, and remain cohesive towards goals for the good of their sport slays our sport. You look at any snowbelt state and they have thousands of miles of government approved, funded, and supported trails. I worked with our state's department of conservation and natural resources and snowmobile groups received hundreds of thousands of dollars in grants every year for any number of projects/equipment. In many areas that didn't get shit for snow. I don't remember any dirt bike clubs or groups even asking for a grant for...

I spend time around both sides of the aisle and this might be the first time in about 10 years that I'm seeing this level of alignment on a topic.

"So weege brought up the question of what would it take for the dirt bike industry to do something similar and start selling bikes that are not as advanced and therefore a lot cheaper for the avg person?" Carbureted two strokes. We can all enjoy performance suspension, but with motors the majority of us can work on in the garage and that don't cost a fortune to repair. As much as I love my modern four stroke, I kind of the miss the days of simplicity.

This has nothing to do with selling cheap two strokes/entry level bikes, investing in the bicycle market, or moto gp. It has everything to do with incredibly poor forecasting, assuming Covid sales would continue, and overspending like madmen across the company. They ran out of money long ago and continued to leverage themselves with creditors and now they are screwed.

But hey guys. Electric bikes are gonna save the sport. Just wait until you see the lawsuits from "I didn't hear the person".

…and then the insurance company drops the policyholder, or raises their premiums to the point it’s no longer fiscally viable…and shuts down. The “who cares, (insurance/big company/wealthy person) has plenty of money” mindset of jurors is ultimately going to kill off every ounce of fun in this country.

I am not sure why you got downvoted but you are 100% correct. We started out as a dealer in 2016, just before Arctic Cat was bought out by Textron. Initially everything was great, we put up some solid sales numbers our first year. Followed that up with a stellar second year and were really excited to expand more in our third year. Arctic Cat then began fumbling the football with their products and their product timing. For example they would release a new model (Wildcat XX) and then not have them available for an additional eight months with delay...

If people haven't realized yet, we are in a recession.