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If the bike manufacturers decided to build models that were air cooled, drum brake, 7" forks and 4" rear suspension (essentially a modern take on 70's era bikes) for a really good price and promoted racing around the country would you lay down the cash?
If that involves tracks built around these bikes, and racing formats with more time on the track than in your fold up chair in the pits, fuller gates, less classes, longer motos,
Heck yeah why not?
Racing would sure be a lot safer.
Don't they already make these??
Yes, it’s called the crf “f” line not the “r” line lol.
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Hell no. But then again, I started racing when disc brakes, long-travel suspension and water cooling were all new inventions. "Cool" and "modern" to me is better than "old" and "archaic." (Of course, "cool" and "modern" to me means white boots, blue seat covers, the HRC logo, that damn Ooz sticker on Wardy's, Johnny O's and RJ's helmets, fluorescent orange and green, JT helmets and blue engines on Suzukis, so maybe I need to adjust my thinking...)
what would be the point? you already have vintage racing with vintage style tracks.....albeit not many tracks but plenty of old bikes lying around waiting to be refurbed
Actually that's part of the problem with vintage racing. A large portion of those bikes have either been trashed, raced to death, or parted out and very few remain and parts are nearly impossible to come by. Also, I'm 71 retired and love to rebuild shit but I think the ability to buy something new and know what's been done to it is a big plus.
I think it would be cool if we could buy the 1987 Honda CR lineup again for lets say....$4000?
*Edit to say....and make tracks like they did in 1987. Not this high speed, big jumps, huge sweeping corners style that began in the early 00's with the takeover of fourstrokes. Make the tracks with tighter corners and 40 ft table tops
The only MX racing I do is on a vintage bike. I would totally buy a "new" vintage bike.
They already have these.
CRF300F
TT-R 230
KLX 230R
There aren't plenty of old bikes laying around to be refurbished. The old steel frames rust from the inside outward so you don't know how dangerous it is until it snaps.
If you're lucky, media blasting wwill reveal the damage. In a lot of cases the only thing holding the cradle together is the powdercoat on the outside.
To answer the OP, I would buy two. One for motocross, and one to put twin 19s on for flat track.
DRZ-400
Plenty of good used bikes for <$3500

or this if you want to go new.
Let's go back to cars with crank handle starters while we're at it.
Bro...I don't even want crank handle windows...
Id love to be able to buy a pre 2007 Chevrolet full size pickup too.
My 30 year old washer and dryer still get the clothes clean too.
As long as they have removable subframes, wide footpegs, safety seats, and flatslide carburators, I'm in. Also, a gimmick like BASS.
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If it was something analogous to Royal Enfield making simpler cheaper bikes with old specs that'd be pretty sick.
Air cooled yes... disc brakes yes.... 8 to 10" travel f & r yes.... drum brakes hellll no.... super short suspension ya no....
Never been stranded with a dead battery? Would be nice to have a backup crank handle.
Could not agree more!
I have an 01 and got it registered as an Antique Vehicle 😃
Also my 2 year old washing machine control panel died this week.
This is what happens when you buy an old bike laying around and start to fix it
Kiss all of it away because you'll never see it again. You won't discover this until after you've spent $3000 on cosmetic parts and services to make it look like your idea of a good rebuild, plus another $4000 on engine and suspension rebuilds, and then get discouraged after nobody wants to buy your $8000 modded 1986 CR250 with black rims, blacked out swingarm and frame, your personal idea of good graphics complete with your own rider number on the plates, cone pipe, NOS engine internals, and every hop-up bit you can find.
Pro tip: don't do this unless you are doing it for your personal enjoyment and not to ever make back any of that money you've been shoveling into the furnace.
If you do gotta do it, keep the bikes looking as close to factory as possible, they will sell much faster that way. Most people are not buying your vision of what an ideal 1986 CR250 looks like.. they want a sweet factory looking bike to ride/race locally, and not something to store on a riser in the shop.
Bitter pills but its the truth
Also nobody is buying a brand new factory 70's style dirt bike with drum brakes.. they were cheap to make back then but reproducing one today would be very expensive, because literally everything is very expensive to make today.
You say that until the power windows come off the track in the dead of winter.
Obviously crank windows can have a lot of the same issues but it's simpler and cheaper to fix, and most of the time they stay up even if they have problems.
Not only do we already have them, there are racing series out there with classes for them!
The Michigan vintage series for example.
Yeah, much more realistic way to race cheap bikes.
I raced a friends vintage bike at a vintage race and it was awesome and made me want to get into it but the vintage stuff is more expensive to race than modern bikes, parts are expensive and hard to find and next to impossible without the connections these older guys have from doing it for so many years.
new "old" bike, count me in.
100% on the parts issue with old bikes. You couldn't race them week after week and not have a great supply of parts. I may race mine 3 or 4 times a year at the most and it's a blast, but I also have a modern bike for the rest of the time.
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