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8/22/2026 3:08pm Edited Date/Time 8/22/2026 3:08pm

Who do you guys think will win a 450 race first (MX, SMX or SX, doesn't matter), Prado or Deegan? I feel like Prado will in SX, Deegans best chance is probably at SMX

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crash83 wrote:

Jett is unreal.

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ohh_454 wrote:
I think this is just where Toendel is at, factory bike or privateer bike. I didn’t think a factory bike would catapult him to the top...

I think this is just where Toendel is at, factory bike or privateer bike. I didn’t think a factory bike would catapult him to the top 5 or anything. Fineis has had better results than Toendel did on the Partzilla bike. 

davis224 wrote:
But he was significantly better on the privateer bike. How many top 10 motos has he had on the factory bike? Last week he had a...

But he was significantly better on the privateer bike. How many top 10 motos has he had on the factory bike? Last week he had a good start and just worked his way back, way back. Didn't he have a few top 10s on ISRT? (Not partzilla, by the way)

ohh_454 wrote:
Off the top of my head without looking at results I’d say he’s had 2 top tens on each of the Kawis he’s rode. I think...

Off the top of my head without looking at results I’d say he’s had 2 top tens on each of the Kawis he’s rode. I think he was around 12th more on the privateer bike than 17th like he’s been on the factory bike tho. 

My memory failed me. He only has 1 top 10 moto, a 9th at Southwick on the factory bike. I guess I was thinking of both motos at Red Bud, he was killing it but DNFd both motos. Then I think High Point he was well inside the top 10 battling when he crashed hard. It does feel like he was more relevant speed wise on the ISRT bike to me still.

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Perky wrote:

Stats show this is Jett’s worst race he’s ever finished, and he’s 4th. WTF.

It's also his worst season in terms of riding and he's in the title fight. 

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8/22/2026 3:13pm

Track conditions for the last moto were perfect compared to practice this morning. 

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8/22/2026 3:18pm
ky_savage wrote:

Track conditions for the last moto were perfect compared to practice this morning. 

Dude it was dumping the 2nd qualifying session.  I mean DUMPING. So nuts how the day turned out. I was soaking wet and then it got so hot, all my clothes dried out lol

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8/22/2026 3:21pm

The 4 inside gates are basically useless unless you get a fantastic jump on everyone, or take the high road. 😂

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8/22/2026 3:25pm

A 1-2 will win championship for hunter next week, Jett needs a 1-1 day

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8/22/2026 3:34pm Edited Date/Time 8/22/2026 3:36pm

1 point championship to end it, damm i wish I was going to Crawfordsville this year. 

For what…? Figuring out if its a Lawrence or a Lawrence that wins the championship… No hate but not really exciting…

Racing would be ”better” without them for sure, but, what are the rest not doing!!??

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8/22/2026 3:39pm Edited Date/Time 8/22/2026 3:40pm

When is Budds gonna get rid of that horrible start location. It’s the most unfair start of the series.

They should have gone back to the old one right after that 2007 MXdN. The FIM made Beasley put it there for the race. Way before that...

They should have gone back to the old one right after that 2007 MXdN. The FIM made Beasley put it there for the race. 

Way before that, the start was short and straight uphill on the other side of the track, into a tight, tight 180. That one would never work. Hell, it didn't work back then. 

we talked to erza about it at the last masters race , he said expect some changes around 2028 ish , going back up hill by the barn 

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8/22/2026 4:02pm

I don't think I ever have seen a track recover this good after being what it was during 450 practise. Unbelievable.

Great work of track crew saving us from getting to see rut cross.

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Hunta - great riding today, perhaps a championship winning day.. dood has proven he's legit this year... 

Prado - 2kd OA is a great result for him.. had fastest lap... he's got the speed to win, but has he reached his ceiling? Is he gonna just be a supercross guy??? 

Cringe lord - he just isn't there and he may never get there, no matter what he posts on the gram... a lot of people,  in fact most, hit their speed ceiling after entering the 450s... staying up is a great thing, but if he ever wants to win, he's gotta push even more and have a few spills here and there.. would you rather be a 3rd place guy every year or win while missing some racing here and there?? 

Jett - if Jett pulls this off at 80 percent it will further cement him as an all time great.. 

Et3 - headtrip tomac isn't anything new.... but now instead of going 2-6 on a headtrip day, he goes 4-13 for 9th OA... to me, it's ruining his legacy.... but I guess he needs the cash that badly... 

Marchbanks- dood has been crushing all summer, but not today.. 

Osborne - 20-20 for 21st... I guess good exposure for beta??? 

Fineis - last week's darling just went 19-35 for 22kd OA... 

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Hymas - he says he's been building and his OA today proves he should be the man next year... but then, he was supposed to be the man this year so who knows... 

Davies - kid is figuring it out... he gonna be a beast in 27'... cringe lord lucky he gets one sx season without him on the gate... 

Gordon - barely saw him on the broadcast... damn lucky a 3-7 got him on the podium... only in a class this weak.. 

Juju - idk man... he should be a serious podium contender... instead he's an 8-4 guy... 

Levi - geezussss.... coulda woulda shoulda... 

Dax - how he still have a ride?? 

Adams - man... his progression just isn't happening very quickly... 

Mumford - yipessss... wrist injuries notttt good... 

Mosiman - 29-6 for 13th.... not good... but even worse...

Thrasher- 24-14 for 20th.... is he just frickn done w star, or he just that slow or injure  now days?? Not looking good for pc next year... 

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8/22/2026 4:37pm
gt80rider wrote:
Hunta - great riding today, perhaps a championship winning day.. dood has proven he's legit this year... Prado - 2kd OA is a great result for him...

Hunta - great riding today, perhaps a championship winning day.. dood has proven he's legit this year... 

Prado - 2kd OA is a great result for him.. had fastest lap... he's got the speed to win, but has he reached his ceiling? Is he gonna just be a supercross guy??? 

Cringe lord - he just isn't there and he may never get there, no matter what he posts on the gram... a lot of people,  in fact most, hit their speed ceiling after entering the 450s... staying up is a great thing, but if he ever wants to win, he's gotta push even more and have a few spills here and there.. would you rather be a 3rd place guy every year or win while missing some racing here and there?? 

Jett - if Jett pulls this off at 80 percent it will further cement him as an all time great.. 

Et3 - headtrip tomac isn't anything new.... but now instead of going 2-6 on a headtrip day, he goes 4-13 for 9th OA... to me, it's ruining his legacy.... but I guess he needs the cash that badly... 

Marchbanks- dood has been crushing all summer, but not today.. 

Osborne - 20-20 for 21st... I guess good exposure for beta??? 

Fineis - last week's darling just went 19-35 for 22kd OA... 

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Hymas - he says he's been building and his OA today proves he should be the man next year... but then, he was supposed to be the man this year so who knows... 

Davies - kid is figuring it out... he gonna be a beast in 27'... cringe lord lucky he gets one sx season without him on the gate... 

Gordon - barely saw him on the broadcast... damn lucky a 3-7 got him on the podium... only in a class this weak.. 

Juju - idk man... he should be a serious podium contender... instead he's an 8-4 guy... 

Levi - geezussss.... coulda woulda shoulda... 

Dax - how he still have a ride?? 

Adams - man... his progression just isn't happening very quickly... 

Mumford - yipessss... wrist injuries notttt good... 

Mosiman - 29-6 for 13th.... not good... but even worse...

Thrasher- 24-14 for 20th.... is he just frickn done w star, or he just that slow or injure  now days?? Not looking good for pc next year... 

Tomac doesn't care he isn't risking it for 10th

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RiceIsRice wrote:
Mitchell Harrison again continues to be the worst lapper in the sport. He is consistenly blind to blue flags and just parks in the racing line...

Mitchell Harrison again continues to be the worst lapper in the sport. He is consistenly blind to blue flags and just parks in the racing line. What a loser

Prado had to be pissed. What the actual F was that. Jett may have got him but Harrison made it easy. 

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8/22/2026 5:17pm
RiceIsRice wrote:
Mitchell Harrison again continues to be the worst lapper in the sport. He is consistenly blind to blue flags and just parks in the racing line...

Mitchell Harrison again continues to be the worst lapper in the sport. He is consistenly blind to blue flags and just parks in the racing line. What a loser

KurtJ99 wrote:

Prado had to be pissed. What the actual F was that. Jett may have got him but Harrison made it easy. 

Why did Prado follow him right into the outside rut? So many of these pros make bad decisions when approaching slower riders. Dont follow.

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Can’t believe how good the track came around, it was literally flooding for the Q2 sessions, awesome day 
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GD2 wrote:
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Zach Osborne 20-20 moto scores. 

 Got shafted and finished OA 21st

..at least he scored some points though(4)

Consistent rides, I'm thinking he will get into the top 20 next weekend...but barely. 

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8/22/2026 9:54pm

Only 2 motos to go for Jorge and Haiden to try and win a race.

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8/22/2026 10:06pm

450 pro motocross stats  

Overall wins  

6 = Hunter Lawrence 
4 = Jett Lawrence 

Overall podiums  

9 = Jett Lawrence 
9 = Hunter Lawrence 
7 = Haiden Deegan 
4 = Jorge Prado Garcia 
1 = Lucas Coenen 

Race wins  

12 = Hunter Lawrence 
8 = Jett Lawrence 

Race top 3  

16 = Jett Lawrence 
15 = Hunter Lawrence 
12 = Jorge Prado Garcia 
11 = Haiden Deegan 
2 = Lucas Coenen 
1 = Justin Cooper 
1 = Garrett Marchbanks 
1 = RJ Hampshire 

Laps lead  

181 = Hunter Lawrence 
133 = Jett Lawrence 
16 = Jorge Prado Garcia 
2 = Haiden Deegan 

Holeshots 

8 = Hunter Lawrence 
4 = Jett Lawrence 
3 = Haiden Deegan 
2 = Jorge Prado Garcia 
1 = Mikkel Haarup
1 = Cooper Webb 

Fastest lap of the race  

9 = Jett Lawrence 
6 = Hunter Lawrence 
5 = Jorge Prado Garcia 

Fastest in practice  

4 = Jett Lawrence 
3 = Hunter Lawrence 
2 = Haiden Deegan 
1 = Lucas Coenen

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8/22/2026 10:08pm

Fastest laps of the races 

250 moto 1 

2.12.473 = Chance Hymas 
2.13.898 = Cole Davies 
2.14.392 = Carson Mumford 
2.14.527 = Ryder Difrancesco 
2.14.528 = Landen Gordon
2.14.829 = Kayden Minear 
2.15.551 = Daxton Bennick 
2.16.054 = Dilan Schwartz 
2.16.117 = Lux Turner
2.16.178 = Levi Kitchen 

450 moto 1 

2.01.674 = Hunter Lawrence 
2.02.204 = Eli Tomac 
2.02.569 = Haiden Deegan 
2.03.844 = Jett Lawrence 
2.04.288 = Jorge Prado Garcia 
2.05.288 = Garrett Marchbanks 
2.06.036 = RJ Hampshire 
2.06.857 = Aaron Plessinger 
2.06.894 = Mikkel Haarup 
2.07.056 = Justin Barcia 

250 moto 2 

2.02.407 = Chance Hymas 
2.02.575 = Levi Kitchen 
2.03.196 = Cole Davies 
2.05.407 = Julien Beaumer 
2.05.439 = Ryder Difrancesco 
2.06.110 = Parker Ross
2.06.160 = Drew Adams
2.06.368 = Michael Mosiman 
2.06.401 = Landen Gordon 
2.06.811 = Caden Dudney 

450 moto 2 

1.58.730 = Jorge Prado Garcia 
1.58.813 = Hunter Lawrence 
1.59.432 = Jett Lawrence 
2.00.611 = Mikkel Haarup 
2.01.343 = Justin Barcia
2.01.759 = Haiden Deegan 
2.01.858 = RJ Hampshire 
2.01.910 = Eli Tomac 
2.01.995 = Dylan Ferrandis
2.02.168 = Garrett Marchbanks

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8/22/2026 10:58pm

Average lap times 

250 moto 1 

2.16.319 = Cole Davies 
2.16.438 = Chance Hymas 
2.16.940 = Landen Gordon 
2.17.420 = Carson Mumford
2.17.858 = Kayden Minear
2.18.499 = Ryder Difrancesco 
2.18.699 = Lux Turner 
2.18.891 = Julien Beaumer 
2.19.080 = Daxton Bennick 
2.19.506 = Dilan Schwartz 

450 moto 1 

2.03.839 = Hunter Lawrence 
2.04.192 = Haiden Deegan 
2.07.357 = Jorge Prado Garcia 
2.07.684 = Eli Tomac 
2.08.328 = Jett Lawrence 
2.08.633 = Cooper Webb
2.09.077 = Justin Barcia
2.09.667 = Mikkel Haarup 
2.10.175 = Garrett Marchbanks 
2.10.586 = Aaron Plessinger 

250 moto 2 

2.04.490 = Chance Hymas 
2.04.541 = Levi Kitchen 
2.06.204 = Cole Davies 
2.07.854 = Julien Beaumer 
2.08.356 = Drew Adams
2.08.762 = Michael Mosiman 
2.09.221 = Landen Gordon 
2.09.284 = Lux Turner 
2.09.323 = Caden Dudney
2.09.455 = Kayden Minear 

450 moto 2 

2.01.079 = Hunter Lawrence 
2.01.253 = Jett Lawrence 
2.01.587 = Jorge Prado Garcia 
2.03.409 = Haiden Deegan 
2.03.676 = Mikkel Haarup 
2.03.743 = RJ Hampshire 
2.04.689 = Aaron Plessinger 
2.04.720 = Cooper Webb 
2.04.751 = Dylan Ferrandis 
2.05.819 = Garrett Marchbanks

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8/22/2026 11:05pm

I must have missed it; where was Justin Cooper this weekend?

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8/22/2026 11:35pm

Shout out to Harrup and Triumph for a great ride in moto 2.

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Everyone forgets that Jett went into blackout mode to rip the SMX title away from Hunter on the last lap of the race last year in Vegas, so Jett is always racing for titles. This year won't be any different. If Hunter wins it, it will be because he earned it, not because Jett lets him have it. 

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8/23/2026 8:11am
TK40_FC wrote:
Everyone forgets that Jett went into blackout mode to rip the SMX title away from Hunter on the last lap of the race last year in...

Everyone forgets that Jett went into blackout mode to rip the SMX title away from Hunter on the last lap of the race last year in Vegas, so Jett is always racing for titles. This year won't be any different. If Hunter wins it, it will be because he earned it, not because Jett lets him have it. 

Yeah this narrative that Jett is willingly giving Hunter a title is some tinfoil hat bullshit. These guys want to win. There is no such thing as too many wins or championships. Just as Jett was frustrated at Unadilla for taking the points lead from Hunter on a DNF, you think Hunter would take pride in having his little brother GIVE him a championship? Good god the koolaid in this forum is potent lately.

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8/23/2026 9:47am Edited Date/Time 8/23/2026 9:48am
davis224 wrote:
Toendel really hasn't been the same since he's gotten on the factory bike. Too much pressure? Or is there really something to be said for having...

Toendel really hasn't been the same since he's gotten on the factory bike. Too much pressure? Or is there really something to be said for having a decent bike that you can do whatever you want to it, vs near unlimited resources in a certain window? It's working for Garrett, but Toendel has only had maybe one round on the factory bike where he showed decent speed.

While not directly related to Corndog, but rather tangential, one of the privateer teams needs to give Jeremy Hand a look. Dude's been grinding out respectable results for years now out of the back of a van. With a little help, I think he could raise his ceiling and be a solid guy for a team like ISRT, PRMX, Moranz or Phoenix.

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TK40_FC wrote:
Everyone forgets that Jett went into blackout mode to rip the SMX title away from Hunter on the last lap of the race last year in...

Everyone forgets that Jett went into blackout mode to rip the SMX title away from Hunter on the last lap of the race last year in Vegas, so Jett is always racing for titles. This year won't be any different. If Hunter wins it, it will be because he earned it, not because Jett lets him have it. 

Leemur891 wrote:
Yeah this narrative that Jett is willingly giving Hunter a title is some tinfoil hat bullshit. These guys want to win. There is no such thing...

Yeah this narrative that Jett is willingly giving Hunter a title is some tinfoil hat bullshit. These guys want to win. There is no such thing as too many wins or championships. Just as Jett was frustrated at Unadilla for taking the points lead from Hunter on a DNF, you think Hunter would take pride in having his little brother GIVE him a championship? Good god the koolaid in this forum is potent lately.

Do you have a big brother you race with? Of course, I don’t know Jett is doing it but at the same time you don’t know he isn’t. It’s not a crazy thought at all. At this point in time I think Jett would be happier with Hunter winning the title. The 3rd outdoor title at this stage probably doesn’t mean all that much to Jett when considering his brother. Jett is the only one who would know.

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8/23/2026 2:33pm
TK40_FC wrote:
Everyone forgets that Jett went into blackout mode to rip the SMX title away from Hunter on the last lap of the race last year in...

Everyone forgets that Jett went into blackout mode to rip the SMX title away from Hunter on the last lap of the race last year in Vegas, so Jett is always racing for titles. This year won't be any different. If Hunter wins it, it will be because he earned it, not because Jett lets him have it. 

Leemur891 wrote:
Yeah this narrative that Jett is willingly giving Hunter a title is some tinfoil hat bullshit. These guys want to win. There is no such thing...

Yeah this narrative that Jett is willingly giving Hunter a title is some tinfoil hat bullshit. These guys want to win. There is no such thing as too many wins or championships. Just as Jett was frustrated at Unadilla for taking the points lead from Hunter on a DNF, you think Hunter would take pride in having his little brother GIVE him a championship? Good god the koolaid in this forum is potent lately.

kpiper wrote:
Do you have a big brother you race with? Of course, I don’t know Jett is doing it but at the same time you don’t know...

Do you have a big brother you race with? Of course, I don’t know Jett is doing it but at the same time you don’t know he isn’t. It’s not a crazy thought at all. At this point in time I think Jett would be happier with Hunter winning the title. The 3rd outdoor title at this stage probably doesn’t mean all that much to Jett when considering his brother. Jett is the only one who would know.

Can make assumptions based all feelings all we want. I can tell you one thing, my siblings aren’t beating me at anything unless they straight up beat me.

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Leemur891 wrote:
Yeah this narrative that Jett is willingly giving Hunter a title is some tinfoil hat bullshit. These guys want to win. There is no such thing...

Yeah this narrative that Jett is willingly giving Hunter a title is some tinfoil hat bullshit. These guys want to win. There is no such thing as too many wins or championships. Just as Jett was frustrated at Unadilla for taking the points lead from Hunter on a DNF, you think Hunter would take pride in having his little brother GIVE him a championship? Good god the koolaid in this forum is potent lately.

kpiper wrote:
Do you have a big brother you race with? Of course, I don’t know Jett is doing it but at the same time you don’t know...

Do you have a big brother you race with? Of course, I don’t know Jett is doing it but at the same time you don’t know he isn’t. It’s not a crazy thought at all. At this point in time I think Jett would be happier with Hunter winning the title. The 3rd outdoor title at this stage probably doesn’t mean all that much to Jett when considering his brother. Jett is the only one who would know.

Leemur891 wrote:
Can make assumptions based all feelings all we want. I can tell you one thing, my siblings aren’t beating me at anything unless they straight up...

Can make assumptions based all feelings all we want. I can tell you one thing, my siblings aren’t beating me at anything unless they straight up beat me.

Hard to explain back to back bad starts by Jett.

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