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shortty761 wrote:
The amount of grumpy farts on here complaining about Deegan this and Deegan that still baffles me.Are you not entertained? You think the sport is in...

The amount of grumpy farts on here complaining about Deegan this and Deegan that still baffles me.

Are you not entertained? You think the sport is in a “WORSE” position with Deegan out here?


The truth is, weather you like it or not, Deegan is better for the sport. Without him out there, we would have less drama, less excitement, less battling. And that’s what sells.

If you don’t like it, go watch golf.


Or another replay of Stew vs Reed vs RC on YouTube, comment how great the sport was back then and how everyone’s a sissy now, then get on Vital and complain about the guys racing now.

decano51 wrote:

Im sure many kids out there feel the same way about Jake Paul and the sport of Boxing. 🤪


 

Man, I wish fighters would have nothing to do with Jake Paul. He's terrible for the sport. The fact that Donger is friends with him says everything you need to know about Donger and Brian, and why true longtime fans of MX and SX think the Deegans are a plague.  

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Pop Shmoke wrote:
Jett went 4 seconds a lap faster than deegan the lap he passed him. Jett has always rode just fast enough to win by a couple...

Jett went 4 seconds a lap faster than deegan the lap he passed him. Jett has always rode just fast enough to win by a couple seconds and we saw him do that moto 2 after hunter went down. 

When hunter and jett were both up the reason they put 20 seconds on deegs first moto is theyre both pushing eachother. They were on their way to putting 20 on him again when hunter hit neutral and fell. Once hunter went down jett backed it down and just kept the lead 4-6 seconds over deegs until the checkers. 

JayDeerTay wrote:
I dont disagree but I think its the stage Deegan is at. Deegan had made a "push" to get on hunter and got real close but...

I dont disagree but I think its the stage Deegan is at. Deegan had made a "push" to get on hunter and got real close but it was obvious that push was a pace he couldnt maintain and he started making mistakes. Those mistakes compounded with Jetts push and what was a 1.5 second gap turns to 4 then 6 etc. 

That is why I found the best lap times interesting this round. It was a gnarly track and Deegan had a better best lap than hunter both motos it is just that hunter is far more consistent as is Jett. 

So if you were a coach of Deegan, there is a lot to work on for sure but there is a lot of good takeaways week to week to build on. 

That is the only point I am making. 

Brian, Brian, Brian. 

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To the Deegan haters, I'm genuinely curious, do you think he should be winning 6 rounds in to his 450 career?And who do you think should...

To the Deegan haters, I'm genuinely curious, do you think he should be winning 6 rounds in to his 450 career?

And who do you think should ride the 450's at MXoN this year?

jambalaya wrote:

If he's the prodigal talent that he and his fans claim, yes. 

Other greats have won immediately in the 450 class. 

Sandusky26 wrote:

Besides 1 moto Deegan has beat Jetts competition from 23.

So? 

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Sandusky26 wrote:

Besides 1 moto Deegan has beat Jetts competition from 23.

jambalaya wrote:

Get a load of this guy. He thinks Deegan would have beat Honda chase sexton!

Sandusky26 wrote:

That's your problem. Getting too many loads from guys. You should share with your homies, Herr lich, jettsonator, and Don Julio.

Admit it mate - you're a Jake Paul fan right? You think he's a real fighter right? 

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7/13/2026 9:52pm Edited Date/Time 7/14/2026 9:34am
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Haiden is Barcia with a better PR agent. Although TBF Barcia was also pretty overrated by the media back then because he looked faster than he was...

Haiden is Barcia with a better PR agent. 

Although TBF Barcia was also pretty overrated by the media back then because he looked faster than he was while wasting too much energy 

JayDeerTay wrote:
Barcia never won an outdoor championship on the 250 and had like 3 outdoor wins total... Haiden and Jett tied at 14 in equal seasons.  Unless you...

Barcia never won an outdoor championship on the 250 and had like 3 outdoor wins total... Haiden and Jett tied at 14 in equal seasons. 

 

Unless you mean SX Barcia in that he will be a champion........ 🤔

 

jambalaya wrote:

Get a load of this guy. 

He thinks racing against Shimoda and Kitchen is the same as racing against Baggett, Tomac, Roczen, and Musquin

Get a load of you. When you go beyond the surface level thinking, your point isn’t the silver bullet you think it is.

Of all the names you mentioned, Bagget was the only one to beat Barcia in the standings in the outdoors. That was 2012. In 2010, Barcia beat Tomac in overall results as well as 2012 where Justin beat Eli, Roczen and MM25 in overall results. In 2011, Barcia was out so that’s a wash. 

You are framing this as if the reason Barcia didn’t win titles outdoors is because he went up against Eli, Kenny, and Marvin, but he beat all those guys. 

Who did beat Barcia?  The names you left out. In Barcia’s rookie season, he lost to Dungey, Pourcel, Metcalfe, and Weimer. In 2010, Barcia lost to Cabard, Rattray, Pourcel, and Wilson. In 2012, Barcia lost to Baggett and beat Eli, Kenny, and Marvin. 

When Barcia did face Eli, Kenny and Marvin, none of them had outdoor titles, and only one of them went on to win a 250 title. The guys who did beat Barcia (and Eli, and Kenny) are the names you didn’t mention because they aren’t the names that went onto greatness (other than Dungey) so it wouldn’t serve your narrative. 

Whether you like it or not, Deegan dominated the 250 class and your attempt to discredit it by virtue of his competition falls flat when you consider the above points. I’m becoming more and more convinced that the Deegan haters like yourself are just dishonest. A quick look at your post history shows that when it comes to Deegan, you are anything but fair and objective. 

 

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7/13/2026 9:58pm Edited Date/Time 7/13/2026 10:22pm

I probably didn’t explain it clearly in my op. 

The gap I’m referring to is the media’s fixation on praising deegan for narrowing the gap between him and the Lawrence’s in terms of seconds. 

In my 25 years of watching mx I’ve never seen a rider getting praised for this?


1 second or 20 seconds a loss is a loss and Deegan is getting cooked by the Lawrence bros. 
 

Maybe the media is getting business advice from Brian’s general army grift? “For only $500 a month you can get financial freedom…”

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7/13/2026 10:39pm Edited Date/Time 7/13/2026 10:42pm
Pop Shmoke wrote:
Jett went 4 seconds a lap faster than deegan the lap he passed him. Jett has always rode just fast enough to win by a couple...

Jett went 4 seconds a lap faster than deegan the lap he passed him. Jett has always rode just fast enough to win by a couple seconds and we saw him do that moto 2 after hunter went down. 

When hunter and jett were both up the reason they put 20 seconds on deegs first moto is theyre both pushing eachother. They were on their way to putting 20 on him again when hunter hit neutral and fell. Once hunter went down jett backed it down and just kept the lead 4-6 seconds over deegs until the checkers. 

It was absolutely wild how he hung back behind the 38, and then pulled the trigger on that pass and checked out. He was just sizing...

It was absolutely wild how he hung back behind the 38, and then pulled the trigger on that pass and checked out. He was just sizing him up the whole time.

It was pretty crazy the first couple of laps of moto 2 jett was slamming the brakes and being stood up trying to not run into the back of deegans rear wheel in the corners. Once prado dropped a couple seconds back after a few laps he was able to back away from deegan, but that was crazy to watch. 

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jambalaya wrote:

Get a load of this guy. He thinks Deegan would have beat Honda chase sexton!

Sandusky26 wrote:

That's your problem. Getting too many loads from guys. You should share with your homies, Herr lich, jettsonator, and Don Julio.

Admit it mate - you're a Jake Paul fan right? You think he's a real fighter right? 

What the fuck is a Jake Paul and why do you keep bringing it up?

That's cool if your gay like Team Green suggested, it's 2026 and you make it pretty weird when it comes to Jett. Pretty sure Jett has a girl so you might be out of luck.

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wix wrote:
I probably didn’t explain it clearly in my op. The gap I’m referring to is the media’s fixation on praising deegan for narrowing the gap between him...

I probably didn’t explain it clearly in my op. 

The gap I’m referring to is the media’s fixation on praising deegan for narrowing the gap between him and the Lawrence’s in terms of seconds. 

In my 25 years of watching mx I’ve never seen a rider getting praised for this?


1 second or 20 seconds a loss is a loss and Deegan is getting cooked by the Lawrence bros. 
 

Maybe the media is getting business advice from Brian’s general army grift? “For only $500 a month you can get financial freedom…”

It’s because they are disappointed and need something to hold onto. I’m going to enjoy watching Davies continue to smash deegan 250 stats. He already has an outdoor moto and overall win quicker than deegs. Sx title a year earlier and it’s looking like he will win an mx title a year earlier

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7/14/2026 4:24am

If he doesn’t beat them the bike will become the issue at some point. 

Has to keep the mental game away from doubt.

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There is constant conversation regarding Deegan narrowing the gap between him and Jett. The reality is Jett with one leg has deegan 53 points down and Southwick...

There is constant conversation regarding Deegan narrowing the gap between him and Jett. 

The reality is Jett with one leg has deegan 53 points down and Southwick has only just ended. 

There is no debate. The gap is growing. 

When did deegan become the media darling?

Fear of Monster Energy, Fear of the Deegandashian purchased marketing machine, take your pick but it's probably both. 

Oh, and ssome of them are wearing Monster Energy pins which means thay are directly paid by Monster....so they have 2x the reason to promote the narrative. 

The Lawrence's are Red Bull....

Think the Deegan's are some marketing God's? BS, they just learned to manipulate/bully Monster into promoting every single thing they do. 

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I’m so ready for the inevitable Deegan win. The haters will be so quiet you could hear a mouse fart.

Well Washougal is not ‘friendly’ to the Lawrence’s so that could be the best opportunity he gets.


Oh and def not a fanboy of any, just good hard (not dirty) racing

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Deegan got beat straight up by Jo at shougal last year and lap times similar to several riders 

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My question is that how is there a “rivalry” when he hasn’t beat Jett? 

All the shit talking by Deegan, if he doesn’t win a OA this season, it will have to be the most underwhelming 450 rookie season debut yet; given his 250 record.

However the Deegans and the media will phrase it as “he needs to learn the 450 class and progress.” Sorry but no. 

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shortty761 wrote:
The amount of grumpy farts on here complaining about Deegan this and Deegan that still baffles me.Are you not entertained? You think the sport is in...

The amount of grumpy farts on here complaining about Deegan this and Deegan that still baffles me.

Are you not entertained? You think the sport is in a “WORSE” position with Deegan out here?


The truth is, weather you like it or not, Deegan is better for the sport. Without him out there, we would have less drama, less excitement, less battling. And that’s what sells.

If you don’t like it, go watch golf.


Or another replay of Stew vs Reed vs RC on YouTube, comment how great the sport was back then and how everyone’s a sissy now, then get on Vital and complain about the guys racing now.

decano51 wrote:

Im sure many kids out there feel the same way about Jake Paul and the sport of Boxing. 🤪


 

Man, I wish fighters would have nothing to do with Jake Paul. He's terrible for the sport. The fact that Donger is friends with him says...

Man, I wish fighters would have nothing to do with Jake Paul. He's terrible for the sport. The fact that Donger is friends with him says everything you need to know about Donger and Brian, and why true longtime fans of MX and SX think the Deegans are a plague.  

Man, I have to agree with this-Jake Paul is a fucking clown who has done a massive disservice to the sweet science, and this comes from a huge lifetime fan of boxing. When he finally got in the ring with a real fighter he ran and fell like a frightened baby before getting his jaw broken. There is nothing good, nothing of substance, of reality, that comes from spending any time with that clown-I'm pretty sure this is the point that is being made here. As far a role models go, this is not one of them. All fakery and bullshit and the fact that it is making clowns like him rich is deeply disturbing in general. And don't come at me with all of this jealousy bullshit. I'm more than good with my lot in life. Deegs is fast as fuck, just do that. All the other shit is just going to detract from him reaching his full potential. Lots of great role models in the sport to learn from. Start with Dungey. 32 straight SX podiums, start with that one. All the rest of the noise is nonsense, make believe. All of the greats shut that shit out, stay selfish, and win. 

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True, but again he wore a shirt that had RIP Jett on it. You can't do that, then pretend you're good with "learning from the veterans"...

True, but again he wore a shirt that had RIP Jett on it. You can't do that, then pretend you're good with "learning from the veterans" a few weeks later when you haven't led a single lap.

He also had an interview at Thunder Valley saying Jett is scared of him. Remember that one?

Talking about the media, bro. You sound triggered. That’s how you know Deegan is in yours and Jett’s head. It’s working on the media too. I...

Talking about the media, bro. You sound triggered. That’s how you know Deegan is in yours and Jett’s head. It’s working on the media too. I mean look at all the angry energy people are wasting just “hating” on him. It’s like he says, he feeds off that energy.

DonJulio wrote:

Got passed on a straight away after being chirped by Jett on the gate btw 

it was a statement pass.....Jett smoked him going by.....it was beautiful

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DonJulio wrote:

Deegan got beat straight up by Jo at shougal last year and lap times similar to several riders 

U can down vote me all you want but it’s a fact lol

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decano51 wrote:

Im sure many kids out there feel the same way about Jake Paul and the sport of Boxing. 🤪


 

Man, I wish fighters would have nothing to do with Jake Paul. He's terrible for the sport. The fact that Donger is friends with him says...

Man, I wish fighters would have nothing to do with Jake Paul. He's terrible for the sport. The fact that Donger is friends with him says everything you need to know about Donger and Brian, and why true longtime fans of MX and SX think the Deegans are a plague.  

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Man, I have to agree with this-Jake Paul is a fucking clown who has done a massive disservice to the sweet science, and this comes from...

Man, I have to agree with this-Jake Paul is a fucking clown who has done a massive disservice to the sweet science, and this comes from a huge lifetime fan of boxing. When he finally got in the ring with a real fighter he ran and fell like a frightened baby before getting his jaw broken. There is nothing good, nothing of substance, of reality, that comes from spending any time with that clown-I'm pretty sure this is the point that is being made here. As far a role models go, this is not one of them. All fakery and bullshit and the fact that it is making clowns like him rich is deeply disturbing in general. And don't come at me with all of this jealousy bullshit. I'm more than good with my lot in life. Deegs is fast as fuck, just do that. All the other shit is just going to detract from him reaching his full potential. Lots of great role models in the sport to learn from. Start with Dungey. 32 straight SX podiums, start with that one. All the rest of the noise is nonsense, make believe. All of the greats shut that shit out, stay selfish, and win. 

Yaa I don’t like Jake Paul at all but you can’t deny that he’s gotten the fighters he’s fought a big ass payday. Askren made twice as much fighting Paul than he ever made in a fight with the UFC. Woodleys biggest ufc payday was something like $600k and he made $2 mill fighting Paul. Mike Tyson made $20 mill fighting Jake Paul. Jake Paul’s a douche, but those guys are getting paid that’s for sure. 

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Talking about the media, bro. You sound triggered. That’s how you know Deegan is in yours and Jett’s head. It’s working on the media too. I...

Talking about the media, bro. You sound triggered. That’s how you know Deegan is in yours and Jett’s head. It’s working on the media too. I mean look at all the angry energy people are wasting just “hating” on him. It’s like he says, he feeds off that energy.

DonJulio wrote:

Got passed on a straight away after being chirped by Jett on the gate btw 

Wo Phat wrote:

it was a statement pass.....Jett smoked him going by.....it was beautiful

already a couple of dangerboyz don't like a factual post....you guys stay butthurt

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This place fucking sucks now. ML allowed this place to get ran into the ground by shtick accounts and hate watchers. 

I am out. 

*insert "well bye" meme

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Spike33 wrote:

This place fucking sucks now. ML allowed this place to get ran into the ground by shtick accounts and hate watchers. 

I am out. 

*insert "well bye" meme

Lol you've been posting for a year and a half.

It sucks because everyone doesn't agree with you? If that's the case, good luck in the real world brother. 

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This place fucking sucks now. ML allowed this place to get ran into the ground by shtick accounts and hate watchers. 

I am out. 

*insert "well bye" meme

take your ball and go...

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Hi I'm Bob and it’s been 2 seconds since my last I HATE Deegan post …….

Dam the Danger Boy persona is working extremely well that he is in all of your heads.

Reminds me a lot of Bob Hannah !

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Spike33 wrote:

This place fucking sucks now. ML allowed this place to get ran into the ground by shtick accounts and hate watchers. 

I am out. 

*insert "well bye" meme

A bunch of dudes starting thread after thread about how much they hate Deegan because of the shit talking. So they justify there hate by shit talking.

Pretty fucking strange behavior.

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0 laps led by the way in 12 motos

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Spike33 wrote:

This place fucking sucks now. ML allowed this place to get ran into the ground by shtick accounts and hate watchers. 

I am out. 

*insert "well bye" meme

Sandusky26 wrote:
A bunch of dudes starting thread after thread about how much they hate Deegan because of the shit talking. So they justify there hate by shit...

A bunch of dudes starting thread after thread about how much they hate Deegan because of the shit talking. So they justify there hate by shit talking.

Pretty fucking strange behavior.

well i think the complaint is all the shit talking without backing it up....so thereby folks talk shit in response. it's a simple concept

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Spike33 wrote:

This place fucking sucks now. ML allowed this place to get ran into the ground by shtick accounts and hate watchers. 

I am out. 

*insert "well bye" meme

Sandusky26 wrote:
A bunch of dudes starting thread after thread about how much they hate Deegan because of the shit talking. So they justify there hate by shit...

A bunch of dudes starting thread after thread about how much they hate Deegan because of the shit talking. So they justify there hate by shit talking.

Pretty fucking strange behavior.

Wo Phat wrote:

well i think the complaint is all the shit talking without backing it up....so thereby folks talk shit in response. it's a simple concept

It's extremely hypocritical. 

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Sandusky26 wrote:
A bunch of dudes starting thread after thread about how much they hate Deegan because of the shit talking. So they justify there hate by shit...

A bunch of dudes starting thread after thread about how much they hate Deegan because of the shit talking. So they justify there hate by shit talking.

Pretty fucking strange behavior.

Wo Phat wrote:

well i think the complaint is all the shit talking without backing it up....so thereby folks talk shit in response. it's a simple concept

Sandusky26 wrote:

It's extremely hypocritical. 

no, when all you dangerboyz were doing it, it was ok. when non-dangerboyz point it out, you cry foul.....that's hypocritical. understand the difference

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Wo Phat wrote:

well i think the complaint is all the shit talking without backing it up....so thereby folks talk shit in response. it's a simple concept

Sandusky26 wrote:

It's extremely hypocritical. 

Wo Phat wrote:

no, when all you dangerboyz were doing it, it was ok. when non-dangerboyz point it out, you cry foul.....that's hypocritical. understand the difference

I don't recall anyone starting thread after thread about how much they dislike anything about the Lawrence brothers. You definitely haven't seen a post from me about it, I don't say anything negative about the Lawrence brothers. I do say negative things about the weirdos who do nothing but play pocket pool and think about the Lawrence brothers and post on vital.

Really fucking strange behavior just look at some post from Don Julio. He's on his 3rd username now, we should pray for him and hope he gets the help he needs.

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