Best to never win a title (in either class)

Brock Sellards

1999: 4th in 125ESX, 2nd in 125MX

2000: 2nd in 125ESX, 4th in 125MX

2000: 4th 125MX

2001: 5th 125MX

2003: 3rd 125ESX, 5th 125MX

4 supercross wins, 2 motocross overalls

Billy Laninovich

2003: 4th in 125WSX

2005: 4th in 125WSX

2006: 5th in 250 West

1 win in 250W SX

Yeah, he might be weird, but tell me you weren't trying to help him push that bike when you saw this on TV. Pure fucking heart. 

Probably myself, I’m pretty freakin good but haven’t won shit….in anything 

Didn't he also race in 2003 with a broken leg? Tougher than a 2 dollar steak as RC says!

Holy cow, I can't believe we all forgot this guy.

Brock Hepler

2004: 3rd in 250 East SX, 2nd in 250MX

2005: 6th in 250MX

2006:6th in MX Lites

Don’t know the stats but I’d like to throw Tyla Rattray’s name in the mix. He did win an MX2 title though so maybe it doesn’t count.

Pit Beirer from my memory. Also Josh Coppins, and Kurt Nicoll. Don't most/all of the FIM contenders hold National Titles though? So it's a bit different compared to AMA.

    jps, you are the champ of this thread !

        JoJo Keller.

Josh is a good one,  i went to Loket and swore at that downhill double in 2014, 

No factor on 450 but the fact that Jordon Smith didnt end up with at least one 250SX title is crazy to me. He had crazy speed sometimes but was too often on the ground unfortunately

DV:

• 2-time Monster Energy AMA Supercross Championships 250SX Runner-Up (2002, 2000)
• 3-time AMA Pro Motocross Championships 250MX 4th place (2005, 2004, 2000)
• 2-time Monster Energy AMA Supercross Championships 250SX 4th place (2005, 2004)
• 3 career AMA Pro Motocross Championship MX Wins
• 7 career Monster Energy AMA Supercross Championship SX Wins

I get that the question is in either class. But if we only look at the premier class, Marvin is also up there. He was able to beat some of the best riders in the modern era indoors and out but never won a premier title.

Also:

Runner up 1998 125 World MX championship

3rd 1999 250 World MX championship

Larry Ward should get an honorable mention. Crazy long career, and a podium threat for over a decade.

Man, I was just thinking of him the other day! Do y'all remember 2009 Glen Helen when Villopoto was way back (about 15 seconds) and caught Alessi and passed him? It was EPIC!!! 

 

Not weird. I’ve lost my dad, brother, and am currently fighting for my mum. He was kind enough to reach out to me.

“On Saturday night, January 12, 1991, in Orlando’s Citrus Bowl, sophomore rider Hughes came one turn away from winning the season-opening 125cc East Region Supercross main event over Brian Swink. After this promising start, his initial momentum would be slowed by a broken wrist at an exhibition race at the Fukuoka Dome in Japan. Other injuries collected along the way in 1992, and 1993 would haunt the Californian all the way to the start of the 1994 season. Once physically back up to speed for the start of the 1994 125 West Supercross series, there was another setback, one of an entirely different type—Ryan’s father was diagnosed with terminal cancer.

“He had terminal colon cancer, but at that time, it didn’t register with me what terminal was. I had blinders on. They told me my dad died when I got home from the opening round of the series at Houston. At the second race at Anaheim, I didn’t qualify.”

Brokenhearted, Hughes forged on and a week later inside Jack Murphy Stadium in his native San Diego, rode his SplitFire/Hot Wheels/Kawasaki KX125 to the first victory of his Professional career. It really couldn’t have come at a better time for the then-20-year-old. “I won that race, and it was the best thing that ever happened to me. My dad died the week before, and then I won the next race. That was a massive emotional roller coaster for me.”

Read the title man 🤣

Larry Ward

Magoo?

John Dowd won tons of Nationals  in the 125 and the 250 class,but never an outdoor title. He has a 125 west title but was far better outdoors.

Marty Tripes

Mike Hartwig

Brian Myerscough

Robby Reynard

Broc Hepler

Josh Hill

Andrew Short

Joey Savatgy

DV12

Coppins in MXGP

As a Brit, I also think Tommy Searle got pretty unlucky to come through at the same time as a certain Jeffrey Herlings 

I think Alessi has to be as high up as can be.

One of the best to ever come out of amateur ranks tied with Stewart for most Lorettas titles. Podiums on a 450 behind KW and RC in his second career pro race as a 16 year old!

Favorite to win the 09 outdoor 450 title before he got hurt. Holeshot KING.

People clown him for getting emotional winning a 450 heat race but that was the first race he ever won in SX after so much (believe the) hype.

2005 Lites outdoors 3rd in points (EDIT championship came down to last race infamous Tedesco incident?)

2006 Lites west SX 4th

2006 Lites outdoors 2nd

2007 450 outdoors 2nd (16 points off Langston for 'chip)

2009 450 outdoor points leader before injury

2012 450 outdoor 2nd

Mount Rushmore is 4, right?  Off the top of my head, not counting regional titles or riders who were exclusive to the GPs (a class by itself), just 250/450 MX or 450 SX.

Marty Tripes 

Ezra Lusk

Kevin Windham

DV

Hard to leave off Bradshaw, then Broc Hepler, Andrew Short, Alessi in that order.  Also hard to leave Magoo off, but maybe that's a different monument.

Mikey would’ve been 2nd in the 05 outdoor series as well but I think he got DQed for his move on Tedesco which cost him 2nd in points. 

Keep grinding bro. You still have a shot!