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True and let riders deal with the hardpack like they would do with mud, sand etc. At least they would have some consistency. It's all about dust control for television looks.
Aren’t there local and state requirements about air pollution/dust for many tracks?
Yeah, they used to water it just before the lower grade race. Slick as ice but soaked in by the main moto.
Of course it's all about dust control for television looks. This is one of my favorite videos on YouTube, but imagine how pissed we'd be if we had to spend 3+ hours watching a race through dust like this on a service we pay good money for...
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Everyone has to ride the same track. If the dirt was absolutely primo all day long, the results sheet would still be the same.
Aussie WMX racer Emma Milesivic's front brake jammed up with mulch.
That looks really cool tbh! No ruts, a totally different beast to tame. Would really like to see it 😄🤘
Yes, and for Thunder Valley, it's the proximity to the highway. For some, it's migrant dust on neighbor farms.
In 10 years they'll all be data centers or fracking anyway.
Some time ago a local track used a ton of mulch and the guy that pit next to me had a chunk of mulch stuck between the chain and the sprocket. That thing was wedged in there so good that no one could spin the rear wheel or even get it out. I believe he took off the master link to free it up. He was lucky the rear wheel locked up on the flat.
The constant complaining about tracks is tiresome. Imagine if they had to race in the 70s (or earlier) on real, original tracks that were just laid out with stakes, ribbon, and snow fence during the week prior……
Expect sawdust is alot more expensive!! At least in the northeast it is!!
Bremen MX in GA used sawdust.. they got it by the semi tractor trailer loads and ripped it in deep. They had the best traction anywhere.
If the wood chips were ripped deep and allowed to break down for a few months it has a similar effect but you have to get it into the soil. Sounds like they did not do this at Thunder Valley and a lot of it was on the surface instead
Nature had a pretty good plan for the dirt in every area. Why we insist on making every track the same is almost criminal. The best riders need to be able to handle the different terrains on every track. One of the best features of outdoor motocross is being erased by the constant tinkering with the track surfaces. Let them race on the native soils. We're missing hard pack with blue groove one week, deep sand the next week, red clay the next, and black farm dirt. That's a true test of the outdoors.
I can’t think of anything worse than riding an old 500 on that track haha
Next thing you now these pansy racers will be complaining about lime on the tracks!
Deegs hasn’t complained once about the track or his bike setup.
You can play the long game with either.
If you’re gonna use mulch - compost it, let it break down in a pile and rip it a few times in an area where you let it break down before putting it on the track.
Or the long game with saw dust is before you know it you’re track surface is unbelievable and you get people driving 5 hours each way every week to ride it, passing 5 tracks on their way because yours is amazing.
Or throw mulch on it and have everyone bitch.
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Trust me i know how it works we only use sawdust. Ive spent well over 100 grand on sawdust over our 30 year existence as a top notch mx race facility here in Pennsylvania.
That’s awesome then you see it’s worth it!!
What track do you have? I’ll have to make a trip out!
Those of us who raced Honda Hills in Linnville, OH back in the mid 80’s would probably have kicked ass there then. Old Dick Klamfoth would dump about 6” of sawdust on top of watered concrete. Talk about an ice skating rink. You always railed the berms, there were no other lines.
Vital guys keep saying less ruts, but the team in charge of the track and work with the riders can tell you 100% of the riders want it rough, bumpy and lines which are created with what you call ruts. Picture the hard dirt at Thunder Valley without the ruts, it would be a one line polished groove with no passing. When track are hard it is the only choice, then when they are sandy they end up one line of not wet enough to hold multiple line. Jett woudl wanted the track ripper, watered and a decent surface but then you would complain about ruts. They do not mind ruts.
Wah! Suck it up and ride it, they shouldn't all be "perfectly groomed"... Jesus, these guys would hate the old Carlsbad!
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I rarely complain about a track, for every rider that thinks it's too rough, another thinks it's too smooth. Overwatered, too dry whatever. I do however HATE woodchips/mulch. Wet wood is horrible traction, and wood chip slivers go right through the air filter. Via roost, those slivers can get everywhere. Not a fan!
So I’m the guy most tracks and facilities in the USA buy their tillers/ implements from. So the last 2 yrs the owner of TV has contacted me to buy a new Maschio power harrow and never has. This yr is was 2-3 weeks before the national , needless to say they didn’t buy one again.
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