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1 or 2 equipment choices that didn't pan out and some bad luck.
Eli has been around way, way too long to have this crap happening again. He is the second winningest rider in SX history and he picks a bad gate and tire at a time when the championship is literally on the line? I'm a HUGE Eli fan and want him to bring home the SX title...but this is pretty fkng pathetic.
Not that it makes it much better but he really should be a 3x champ. If there was ever a title deserving an asterisk, its '23. BUT there are no asterisks, it is what it is. He should have 4 titles with alk those wins
I think this is how Tomac has always been, at least since the shoulders. When he doesn’t feel comfortable on the track, he sucks (relative to himself). Rides like these are why he has twice as many wins as guys that have more titles than him. It used to frustrate me being a fan, but now I look at it from the perspective I’m good with it, since taking less risk has maybe extended his career
Stew is the other rider where it’s like, really only two titles?? But with stew we were all wondering how much more his body could take. Maybe that would be Et if he tried to do beast mode in the slippery rutty rocky tracks instead of just sucking
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Wife, Kids, and he saw his net worth. Realized, "why am I taking these risks?" Age and a lot of money in the bank will do that to ya. Young and broke equals drive. Old and rich equals contentment.
I think it is very clear now that Eli is simply mentally and physically tired or exhausted. He is not a 'headcase'. There is a reason no one his age has ever won the title and probably never will.
It is amazing that he has won four races this year and was the fastest guy at times. He still may win another race or two. Legend.
Just a classic embellishment for humor…. We all know what a “paddle” tire is.
Someone at KTM just needs to stop ordering the scoop tires. Don’t even give him the opportunity to use it unless it’s at Daytona 2027
Ha, don't you dare! This line of thinking will get downvoted to all hell.
This is a paddle tire in Supercross!
Eli is still a legend, however this plays out. For this season he needs to get the area between the ears adjusted and make the most of the last four rounds.
Don't see any of that in him. You don't win Daytona being mentally and physically tired. It's SX, not like he at race 25 and doing 2x30 in the heat.
It's bike setup. He likes the ride height with the scoop being taller he has said, that's why he tries to run it everywhere.
Someone dropped a 50 year old UFC fighter and of course, Tom Brady, as an example of why this line of thinking is wrong.
Everyone will come up with every other reason, though.
Makes the most sense to me. We romanticize a lot about the competitive nature of being #1, but cmon, still an awesome life to lead even if you're just making main events. Guy like Eli just riding laps is still top 10 in the world.
Elito Mac was back, but what was really funny was on RDL when they included a 3rd place finish as an example of Eli's slump
Daytona was a huge win for him. Having an emotional letdown after that emotional high is not unexpected or abnormal. You see it all the time in sports and life.
I don't think he has used the scoop tire hardly at all this season. It's not just bike setup.
Webb was the oldest rider ever to win the SX title at 29 years old, I believe. Don't you think there is a reason for that?
100% this.
You have a ton of terrible takes but this is your PR…yeah the guy holding the red plate multiple rounds should’ve never been racing 🤦♂️
No it's two things, starts and bike setup. It's his first year on a completely new bike, with spring fork instead of air and steel frame.
If he would have won the title it would have been a huge accomplishment just from the fact he is first year on it. Always taken time for him to find setup, even on new generation of bikes with Yamaha and Kawi.
The reason for no one winning over 30 is very simple. 8/10 multi time champs stop riding way before 30. You have two now. Give Roczen an electric start and he would still be in this one.
Put Herlings back on the KTM, and he is running with Coenen in the sand, despite 10y difference.
We can discuss if Eli is worn down come middle of outdoors, not during SX.
Pit Row
As I said in the other Eli thread, chase and him need to get a beer together and commiserate. The parallels are so apparent. The tire and ride height is Chase's shock or triple clamps.... doesn't even matter what they run if their confidence in it is shot.
Both won races early so the bike was good enough at that point, then both went searching for more and went backwards, and then both went back to where they started but both are still nowhere near where they were when they won earlier in the year. At least chase is admitting he hates the bike. No clue what Eli is telling himself right now but I'm betting he's no longer in love either.
Ian Harrison interview with Lewis yesterday was back to sounding just like last year, saying all the right things through pained look.
Tomac, Roczen, and Sexton being complete head cases are the entire reason Cooper Webb has 3 sx titles.
Dang lmao.
The delay for the 250 main baked the track and ruined it for the rest of the day. Tomac would have been fine otherwise.
This thread needed a dose of levity! Thank you. 🤣
I was pretty optimistic after qualifying and the heat race win. He looked much improved, happy and just all around good. Even had that signature head lean in the corners. I thought okay sweet game on for the main event. Then I seen him lined up on the far inside and knew it was over. That was a head scratcher for sure. Crappy start & went nowhere. Frustrating to watch. It’s not over yet but it’s not looking good either
I'm not even a Webb fan - and its the truth,100%.
any reason they can't address the taller ride height he likes by using a taller seat?
Well... the two choices, if et3 is indeed healthy and happy w the bike are 1. Headtrip, which has plenty of precedent from previous yrs... or 2. Riding to a script.... which is unlikely... but... knowing what we know now days, if the powers that be "have something" on him... is entirely possible... it's how the rest of the world actually works...
Touch grass.
Also because he is a Silent Asasin when it's needed.
No, think of it as ground clearance. The scoop tire is taller then a standard knobbie tire. Not his sitting height on the bike. Sorry for the shitty explanation I’m sure somebody can come along and say it better lol
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