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Imagine becoming one of the best in the world and then you have this old squid ruin your shot at a win because he’s mentally retarded from drinking garbage water while growing up in southeast Missouri. That would make you sheet your pants 😆
There certainly are enough to fill 20 gates talent wise. Unfortunately some of them stay in 250’s (and I understand why, it’s more money. I’m not trying to start that argument) But imagine if guys had to move up after say 3 years of 250 experience. We’d have our current crop of 450 guys plus Antsie, Deegan, Shimoda, Hammaker, Kitchen, McAdoo, Mosiman plus many more. That’s 7 extremely good riders to add to the current 22 man field.
I know flags are the arch nemesis of the AMA but they do have this thing called a “black flag” don’t they?
Not anymore, Feld traded it for the Rainbow Flag
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Are fans of the sport really stupid enough to think stock bikes would keep them that much closer and alleviate the lapper issue?
Yes and hopper made a video about it too.
This is why Indy was such an issue. The track only had a couple places for passes. It was one fast line into several corners and lappers were still battling. And breaking down so fast because of sub 50 second lap times is getting ridiculous. Even the lappers have a harder time moving over constantly and into a whole lot shittier part of the track.
Feld is going to have to come up with designs that can get laps to around 53-55 seconds minimum and find, use dirt that works better at certain moisture levels for indoor stadiums and doesn't break down in 2 laps.
Feld shares some responsibility in the lapper situation we saw at Indy. They rebuild the track in between and with the dirt they're using and the moisture they're leaving in the dirt, it breaks down too fast, and ruts up the jump faces too deep. They could do better
Yes. We buy stickers and clothing so we can cosplay as a pro racer.
I just wear my jersey to the race instead.
Yes, many of them are...
I got you.
Exactly. Keep it the way it is and shut up.
To add to my initial post, this is talking about Supercross which holds the most prestige and is the sport that can be taken to a mainstream global sport.
Motocross, naturally, is more grassroots, and I don't see a real issue with privateers attempting to qualify and enter. There is way more space on a mx track and the consequences of lappers is far less severe and MX will never be mainstream - it can grow and improve, but SX i beleive is where the level of professionalism on a lot of fronts needs to elevate.
Someone mentioned Jan Pancar, and completely agree, this is great to see and a great story, he also did incredibly well at the nations last year, but this would never happen in SX.
If privateers can enter MX and arenacross but not SX, you will see a lot more privateers raise their level outdoors and if a rider was top 5 in outdoors and winning AX, perhaps they get a shot on a factory team for SX which would've never happened if they continued on their way with LCQ victories or not qualifying for SX
Those riders making mains always have a shot at a fill in ride.
So, would the winner of AX have a shot at a fill in factory ride, I can't remember the last time anyone who barely qualifies got a fill-in ride with a factory team - these factory teams often instead run with 1 or sometimes even both riders out as Beta have this season
How many of you have ever bought a bike or a product because a privateer ran it?
IF, and I say IF you wanted to limit riders on the gate it needs to be performance based, not team based.
AMA handing out point penalties for egregiously affecting the outcome of a race due to non compliance with the rules is the way too handle it IMO. Yes it's somewhat subjective and thus a slippery slope, but you have to make the outcome of the front positions more important than those in the rear. The guys in the rear may be racing for money too, but to the people funding the sport, they aren't as important as those lapping them.
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Teams have contractual obligations so if the team wants the sponsors $$ they put a butt on the seat. Guys making the SX mains get a fill in ride just about every year.
As for AX winners guys like #118 Cheyenne Harmon they have a shot too .
That track/those lappers would have been worse with a standard SX main running time.
Mitch brought in Pierre Karsmaker?
I bought Surf detergent because they sponsored Jeff Glass.
Hot take: you would have bought Surf detergent if they sponsored MC instead.
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Who is the last backmarker that a factory team has picked up? Unless my mind is blanking out, the last I can really remember is A-Ray at Factory Yamaha.
Certainly, but the only reason I bought Surf was because they sponsored a supercross rider, it happened to be Jeff Glass. I did use 1-800-collect and tried Bud Light because of MC, didn't stick with either very long. But other products, like MucOff, I use because of their involvement.
Had various privateers recommend Dirt Tricks sprockets in 2017, which turned into one of the best moto purchases I’ve ever made.
Also like looking at privateer teams and some of my privateer buddies bikes for what parts they use and how their bikes are setup. Without access to factory equipment and a limited budget, they lean towards genuinely good products. FWIW, their bikes are a lot closer to what the general public would ride compared to factory bikes.
disagree Supercross has the most prestige. It has the most home viewership and promotion and the most consciousness with today's riders because it was what Millennials and Gen Z grew up with along with cell phones and social media where stuff could be pushed on people who otherwise may not have paid any attention to it. Those of use that grew up and raced in the formative years in USA saw the origination of the Super Bowl of Motocross in 1972 and regarded it as a gimmick and ok for a change of pace in the normal outdoor schedule which after regional championships had the most prestige. It is fitting that Feld who owns a circus franchise runs the enterprise as a big 3 ring circus. Us old guys basically referred to it as Jump O Cross and could take it or leave it since we can't relate to it vs. our own growing up loving the sport memories.
Les Smith was the one I immediately remembered
3dp yz250f airbox lid, I saw it on David Pulleys bike and it looked rad.
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