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On Wednesday we getting a massive fuel hike here which is gonna push everything else up. Analysts already predict by April our fuel price will almost double as a result of this middle east war.
We are already fucked here and this is a nail in the coffin for most of us in SA.
The US and their allies need to kick arse quickly and get this over with. I can't take anymore of the struggle.
Didn’t we obliterate there nuke facilities like 6-10 months ago? Supposedly setting back there program like 20 years? Or was that all a load of bullshit?
If not about regime change why did we killed the ayatollah?
See... I agree. I'd rather not waste spend tax dollars anywhere in the world, aside from allotted aid which should be limited.
But .... who's willing to do anything about the Iranian situation? We act like the UN is the be all end all, but for the most part all I se them doing is idly fret and hold meetings. If the answer is leave them to their own devices, are we doing the same world wide then? It would certainly save us a lot of money if that's the decision.
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Well Trump pulled us out of the Iranian nuke deal that was in place. It wasn’t perfect but it was better than nothing.
Trump Pulls US out of Iran nuke deal
Iran is making nukes
We bomb and ‘obliterate’ Irans nuke facilities
Now we kill khamenei cause he’s a bad guy but it’s not a regime change.
Analysis…?
History…?
Relevance…?
O.K.
It’s obvious that some of us just can’t believe that Iran has been pursuing a nuke since the mid-80s when they’d decided they needed something stronger than the Chemical Weps they used with fervor during the Iran-Iraq war (fact). You may want to look it up if you don’t have the recall.
The facilities that were brought to the world’s attention by dissidents, some of whom worked in these programs…in the early 2Ks…like Natanz (uranium enrichment) and Arak (heavy water reactor) existed solely for making a nuke. Hence, they were HIDDEN and NEVER DECLARED by the Iranian govt (fact). These facilities are far beyond the type of facilities used for other “Non-Weps” Uranium development…and…again…these facilities were HIDDEN and Iran didn’t admit their existence until long after the proof was far beyond obvious.
Later, the HIDDEN IN A MOUNTAIN facility known as Fordov (discovered by intel folks) became known around 2009. This is the infamous “centrifuge faculty) that got smoked I last summer. Hidden in a mountain…for peaceful purposes…obviously.
Again…
Centrifuges for mass-production of highly enriched weapons grade U…hidden in a mountain.
In May of last year, the Tritium processing facility was “made public”. That facility didn’t just pop up overnight and they were pretty well along with the whole process of PRODUCING TRITIUM. When the Tritium facility was announced to the public…there were papers written about what Tritium’s purpose is & how long it takes to develop it for weapons use. That plant had been around for a while…
Tritium has one purpose. Period.
That’s when “It was on”. Their Nuke Weps program was gonna be ended. And…we went in. Poof. Oh, and, by the way…we were In and Out.
Btw, those very same B2s have hit Iranian ballistic missile facilities in recent days.
Anyways…
That’s where some of us are coming from. Those of us that’ve worked in defense have been hearing about these facilities for OVER TWENTY YEARS…especially from the intel-side of the defense community who’ve been “ringing that bell” since the mid-80s.
All the while…the Iranian Government tells us…”Nothing to see here”…while also publicly reminding us of their goal of removing certain countries from the face of the earth…you know…
Death to America
The Great Satan
How about their TARGETING OF CIVILIANS in MULTIPLE ARAB NATIONS RIGHT NOW?!?!
That’s who I think we’re dealing with…oh, and, remember their “dancing in the streets” when 9/11 happened? I sure as hell do. Yup, those are some awesome trustworthy folks.
So, there’s where I, myself, and…I think…a few others are coming from.
Good post Greenie.💯👍🏻
"Tritium has one purpose. Period."
I'd bet that more than a few folks on this board are tritium 'end-users'.......!
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I don’t think saying that we will do anything Israel says is antisemitic what so ever. It didn’t say anything about how bad the Jewish faith or people are.It said how America will do anything Israel says or Trump will basically. The USA give Israel about $20 billion each year not including weapons, the have free healthcare, higher standard of living than the USA. What is wrong with this picture!
You do realize the nuke issue was under control with the worldwide nuke agreement that was in place that happened under the Obama administration. Trump backed out of that because it was a win for Obama really. Trump creates a problem says he’s the only guy that can fix it. Even the Ukraine thing, we had an agreement with Ukraine they would give up there nukes in the 90’s for protection from the Russian by the USA. No one can trust us anymore, well maybe Putin can.
What allies?
Pretty rich from a place where 9 year olds can get married. With her fathers permission, of course. If she got raped at that or any other age they'd hang her for the crime.
Iran declared war on the USA in 1979 and has continually told uou they're at war with you ever since. It's just taken this long for someone to do something about it. Forget the nuke BS, their enabling of regional shipping disruptions on US vessels (Houthis launching attacks, etc) was reason enough. And yes, the USA has been very bad at the regime change business for a very long time, largely by trying to force liberal democracy in places that didn't want it. Both Iran and Venezuela have very popular local leaders ready to step in from the former deeply unpopular former rulers, Venezuela was a democracy before and will probably be again, Iran will probably be a constitutional monarchy.
This is what happens when you go in to win rather than launder a few billion through the military industrial complex.
You really believe when it comes to Iran that their nukes program was under control?
The facts show it was!
It’s not what I think, that’s an opinion!
How you figure, when they never stopped working toward producing a Nuke. Fact is that Obama gave them a plane full of money that helped them to continue with their nuke program plus fund terrorism in other parts of the world. Sorry, but I don’t agree with you at all.
Pit Row
That’s because Trumps plan disnt work and Iran is not laying down. The Iranians are not revolting and overthrowing what’s left of the government.
I mis-spoke, regime change has happened but what I meant (or interpreted) was we would not pursue installation of a new government with boots on the ground. I’m sure the US will have a say in new leadership, I just don’t know how that process looks like from afar.
No, regime change has not happened. It’s the exact same regime.
They weren’t damaged, as much as, he said they were. He talks too much and exaggerates. He’s doing the right thing now.
True just without their leader, I’m full of mistakes today.
We get what you’re saying.
Yeah. Sure.
It’s ironic that Trump railed against Obama for using Iranian attacks to bolster sagging poll numbers.
Circa 1980. IYKYK
I think it's hilarious, how the liberal whack-jobs who have TDS think Obama was a good president. 😂
AI slop
You do know that the money that was given to Iran was there money that the USA was holding. We sold them weapons that were never delivered! So you can try do a whataboutism but it still doesn’t work. I could go on and on about what happened and why but it futile. Trump broke the deal is bottom line.
Honestly the typical response is to repeat Republican talking points that don’t align with the facts.
Please you guys need to look at the whole picture instead of just saying what the Republicans say in little snippets. Both parties do it to a degree but that the entire MAGA Agenda. How is a war with Iran go along with one of the major policies that MAGA has been saying for years and years. No regime changes or wars. How is this Make America Great Again?
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