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I'm sure that what TM meant was that it will be interesting to see what Trump decides to do now that he has committed to doing "something". A regime change war would likely get him impeached. Any kind of a broad based missile attack would also not be received well.
I'm also sure that TM understands the ramifications of war and doesn't need to be lectured.
Depends on how the lies affect the company, coworkers, and his/her performance, and lastly if I still benefit by his/her employment. Many times people say things that literally have no effect on you so why dwell on it? Sometimes you believe things affect you but really don't. And some things actually affect you. You have to figure it out for yourself. Kind of like here, I see a few posters that put the same propaganda shit in every post they make. It doesn't affect me one bit, so I just don't care.
TM
I know government is lying to me. I have no problem admitting they’ve been lying to me my whole life. I don’t even expect honesty or trustworthiness out of them. They say one thing, and then do another…. But this time it will be different. This politician really means what he says. I am sure I can trust this one. I’m not naïve at all.
TM
Here's the big difference between us. One, we both agree the government is full of corruption. What we don't agree on is that there is still room to live a happy successful life with our country. You seem to think that we cannot live/work withing the system.
I could complain all day long how gravity is bad, causes me knee pain, back pain,.... And yet, because I know it will always be there no matter what I say, I've learned to live my life know that it will not change.
The government by nature will have corruption. Everyone wants to wield power and does unscrupulous things to wield that power. And sometimes it's needed. Let's take for an example a freeway. Everyone in the public has a different opinion of IF it's needed, where it's needed, how bad it's needed, and where it's going to go. A construction company might contribute heavily to a candidate that wants to push forward. Another candidate might be more for a "let's make a lake a national park". So the construction company goes to that guy and says well fund your marketing for your bill if you will support the highway bill. One person says that's negotiating, the next says that's corruption. But at the end of the day, you influenced someone to support something that not everybody agreed on and used money to do so. Because rarely do that many people agree on something and money talks. However, that power of money also influences/pays for bad behavior.
So the big difference between us is, I'm not going to live my whole life depressed/angry that it's happening.
TM
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He’s going to make a deal with the regime, instead of taking them out. It will be a humungous mistake to do so. If I was them, I’d just agree whatever the terms are. He will focused on something else next week. He’s back to saying he stopped hundreds from getting hanged. 🤦🏼♂️
Iran’s Mullah’s are losing their grip. Their probably gonna go out with a bang. That’s worrisome.
We’ve got more assets in the region than we can count: notably there’s no public notification of where the SSGNs and some SSN/Attack subs with missile capabilities…none of which are being reported on…interesting. Oh, and those SSGNs can put operators in theater/on the beach…which is nice.
We’ve got more Fast Attack a/c over there than we’ve had…well…let’s jus’ say we’re geared up for taking shit out.
Also, it looks like there’s more missile destroyers than I can believe.
Then there’s aircraft. Where they’re stained tells us a lot about who wants the Mullahs to truly Fuck Off…throughout the ME and the surrounding area. More ac in theater than can be counted. From Stealth this and Stealth that to a helluva lot of F15s configured for blowing shit up.
I get JM’s position on all of this; but, in recognition of some of the points that he’s making, DJT’s strikes are quite the opposite of the previous administration & their forever wars.
He goes in, knocks out some important assets…and goes home. The last guy to do that was Bush…the 1st Bush. Since then, the Presidents that followed him didn’t seem to see a conflict that they could figure out. Ever.
There’s still Iranian Strategic Targets aplenty. Furthermore, what was the collateral damage and/or loss of life from our last attack? Even when DJT takes out Iranian Generals…IN IRAQ…the CDAs/BDAs are pretty damn good.
As for anyone claiming that the death toll form these latest Iranian Protests is all false or bullshit? Damn, one might want to go search the universe of sources on the matter. Global intel services are looking at ever expansive numbers of executed and disappeared Iranian citizens…this is way beyond crowd suppression and is actually crowd execution on a level that only Stalin or Mao would truly understand. Democide is back. It’s happening in Iran. Rommel wasn’t wrong.
As for us..and maybe another country or 2 or 3…taking out strategic targets in Iran? After the last 2 years of depleting thier missile forces, running down their proxies, pushing them out pf Syria, Lebanon, Gaza and more? It’s a good time to drive a wooden stake thru the Mullahs fucking hearts if they keep this shit up.
He’s going to be hated more than Carter, if he makes a deal, which I fully expect he will.
An F35 just shot down an Iranian drone on a run AT the Lincoln.
This is probably just the beginning.
The Mullahs and the IRGC should start figuring out there long term plans..as in…”Are your affairs in order?”
Wait, I thought those drones were “stealth”…? 🤣
Ahh yes let go fight another war for Israel. Worked so good the first few times. Let’s do it again.
Like throwing rocks at a hornets nest. Ask me how that goes. Ok, you don't have to ask. It's fucked, they come after you like a cloud. And they go after your eyes and face! Nearly poked my eye out trying to get them off! Some things you only have to experience once.
TM
U might wanna do a lil homework…
The Saudis are the ones trying to convince DJT it’s time to strike.
Also, the Iranian Nuke facilities, new & old, including Tritium and U-gas production…all…appear to be “retargeted”. Nice.
The Iranians will send their “Navy” out, soon. Doubt they’ll leave port before being eliminated. Let’s we of those crazy fucks have toe balls to launch a single ac. Their drones are becoming target practice.
Iran has threatened “A Regional Response”…that gives the U.S. justification to go with the broader response that’s been in the wings for a while…
Missile and Missile Launcher plants…what remains of them…POOF! Weapons facilities in general…POOF! Military bases and training facilities…including known terrorist training camps in the region…POOF!
Hence, from The Kingdom to Jordan to Syria to…even Qatar & the UAE…Iran is on their Fuck Off list.
But, hey, tell me this is all about Israel. 🤣
Ahhhh like Iraq had. Right. You’re that generation of people I was talking about earlier that sent their children over there to get PTSD and now you want to send your grandkids. Great, thanks.
Josh, do you care to explain how you win/end a war if you tell your guys they can't shoot?
Asking for a friend
I’m not sure I understand what you’re getting at?
You’re posting like you’re high.
No worries.
Ain’t no one around here interested in our troops being on the ground. Oh, hell no. But, using our resources to eliminate those Mullah shitbags that are wholesale killing people on the streets of Tehran and thru-out Iran? Well, ok.
But, if the major ME states are so worried about things, they can put “their boots” on that sandy ground.
Here’s the thing, kiddo…I’m quite sure you’ve got no sand in your boots, no scars and I’m gonna go with…no experience…that’s apparent as I read your posts.
But, hey, that’s jus’ me.
Furthermore, I truly appreciate you recognizing the difference between me…my generation(The Who, Bitches!)…&….well….
You.
Anyhoo…go get a global education and maybe learn what’s actually going on in the ME instead of jackin’ it to YouTube.
When I read your crap, I’m reminded…some do the kids are not…
Alright.
Now, you go have a nice day & thanks for tryin’.
My opinion, the limitations the administration put on the front line guys when they could use their weapon greatly lengthened said war.
The politicians set the…
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Imagine…
Sipping a margarita…
Checking emails and comms…
Listening to Stevie Nicks and Don Henley…
Watching the surfers pick their lines at Salt Creek…
And reading some of the usual silliness on Vital 🤣
Life is good 💪🏼
From when I sat down a lil over an hour ago…
I’m jus’ sayin’…
Pit Row
My recollection is that the ROEs were very restricted prior to 45.
TM
The actuals, ESPECIALLY under Bush-Obama, would REALLY piss you off.
But, I digress.
That's kind of what I was saying 45=Trump 1.0
You guys are making my point. I have friends who went over there. They Told me how fucked the rules of engagement are and how we had no business being over there to start with. We have our own problems over here. Veteran suicide and homeless being one of them.
What happened to no world police and America first? The same people that have already gave us bad intel before are doing it again. We have sent them billions this year and you want to send them more money?
We have a legit child sex trafficking problem in this country right now. A huge blackmail scandal in our government and we’re worried about fucking Iran? Give me a break.
I can’t believe I’m even wasting my time arguing with someone so dense.
I would be surprised if you didn't come down with something. Look at all those chem trails.
At some point in your life, you probably learned to ride a bicycle. You probably fell in the process. Because you fell doesn't mean that you shouldn't ride a bicycle, It means that you shouldn't do the same thing that caused you to fall. So many times I hear Trump's not doing that the way we always did, he's not presidential, he's ruining our relationships.... Have you ever stopped to think that the way we did things WAS the problem, and we need to do things different? You're obviously unhappy with what we did, why are you so unhappy with trying something different? His first year as 47, he's had some amazing accomplishments. Because this board has been overrun by a few that live for a single issue and opposite from what most of the country wants to happen, the exchange of ideas has gone in the toilet.
TM
🤣
You…giving away who you are…
You…calling ANYONE “dense”…
Bwaaaahaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaa
You…assigning all that stupid shit to anyone other than your-do-nothing-self is so telling.
Kiddo, why are you wasting your time and intellectual superiority on all us of stupid fuckers? 🤓
Here’s the best part of all to this lil’ joke that is “you shitting all over yourself” as you cast aspersions from your mom’s basement…
I’ve been firing people like you…
Since the ‘80s.
You’re so much like those kids I’ve seen marching for Palestine in NYC & on college campuses.
Hence, total and complete…
Cluelessness.
But, I digress.
Sometimes TM forgets to put TM at the end of his posts.
What is the reason for doing this? It shows who you are beside the post, and if it’s quoted, it still shows your screen name.
Honest question: are the 'sand in your boots' and 'scars' comments about your own time deployed, or just shorthand?
Civilians don’t deploy.
I’m not asking about civilians in general, use whatever term you think fits. I’m asking about you. Were you referring to your own boots and scars literally, or was that figurative?
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