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Way passed the point in life when I need other to validate me.
Hope you get the thumps up you are looking for with your comment 😉
Oh it's abundantly clear you don't care what 100% of everyone else on here thinks of you. You clearly get all the validation you need from your supposed credentials and experience.
Do you agree with that call? If I come around the corner and don't see a yellow lead-in caution light but clearly see a red cross flag being displayed on the jump, should I send it?
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Could Eli have pulled up without killing himself though? I thought flag came out as he was on the ramp....
I don't think any rider will send it if they see it. It's possibly career ending not knowing what is on the other side. So i don't agree with jumping it.
But You can't have it both ways as I see it (edit).
You have three options, (or suggest another that makes sense if you want):
1. Riders wants warning lights to rely on for red cross flag. You give them warning lights or flags that is only used when there is a red cross.
Net outcome will be, less riders will miss red flag because they see the warning lights before. If lights are out (if that happens again, ever) will that amount of riders be bigger than what is happening today already when they miss the flag? I don't think so. No one will jump that sees it. Worst case, it's the same as 2. It's likely a net positive effect.
2. You don't give them warning lights. Amount of riders that jump against red cross will continue as is, as last weekend. There is nothing gained at all. More riders will jump against red cross than in scenario 1.
3. You could implement normal yellow lights before finish line (etc) that doesn't work in pair with red cross. You would still have to say it's for specific sections they will apply because you won't have yellows everywhere on the track leading up to a red cross. In this case you continue to penalize red cross jumping even if there is no warning light visible. For the riders I'm pretty sure they will consider this as eating the cookie and keeping. This must have been the obvious go-to solution but for some reason it ain't considered.
honestly, a projector maybe isnt the worst idea. satisfies the peripheral thing JT brings up
How much caution can be shown if you indeed still jump a massive jump?
The the lights have never failed. Only the operators.
If Tomac DID roll and Webb and Kenny passed him - would this lead-in light race director discretion exemption still hold water? And I don't think the rewrite does (or should) provide an exemption if the lights are off and the flag is out. Sounds like the same window for race director discretion is still there and this problem will recur.
Well the AMA will change its mind depending on the Team and the rider that’s for sure.
I think one is flashing and one ain't.
It all makes perfect sense.
But they go by the lights in a flash!!!
They read Vital! Now where's my order from the snack shack?
The dog roller is a Triumph. It stuck between gears.
It'll be a sec...
I'm actually still a little pissed off about them not letting me flag in 1991 because I didn't have white pants!
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Hunter went thru with the Red Cross flag before him, and rolled. The flag didn’t just come out for Eli and the others as they were going over.
AMA have lost their minds.
Its cleat that it was a dificult flag to see since 3 riders jumped.
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So will vital members. Replace Jo with Deegan and the vital keyboard experts would be arguing how the AMA was using solid jurisprudence in the spirit of the rule book, and that these lead in lights are good for the sport.
jurisprudence? 😂 give it a break Jimmy.
Seriously??
i have been whatching all this mess from the start......and from the start it has been clear to me that AMA is just doing its thing as always......
the aplication or not of the rule book is depending always on the nationality of the receiving racer, if it afects an american top guy, they go around and around on excuses, sometimes making fouls out of themselves, but never really penalize a local top rider.......but if it is a foreigner rider, then it is by the book whatever were the particular situation or justice of the said penalty......
this as been the trend of AMA penalties since i follow american racing, and all the mess these penalty cases causes in this site and all others where racing is discuss, all comes from the AMA bending of the rulebook to fit each case in the way they pretend to......
this case is evident.....rulebook says no jumping on red flag point ! Jet gets penalize no matter what
now it was americans jumping, so first AMA trys to argue the rules, making themselfes look really bad with it......so AMA changes the rules AFTER the incident to make their call rigth !!!!!
i just hope there will never happen to a racer landing on a paramedic or injured racer.....cuz by the way AMA is playing around with the red cross flag rule, its giving the riders motive to try and jump even if the flag is out.....
so in the end.....congrats to AMA......
That’s feld
Ahhhh that’s who he is eh? The old jsloan?
Admission of guilt
No, he couldnt have but its hard to explain that to people that are rolling over jumps in first gear and have 3 business days to react.
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