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Torn thumb ligament. He tried to ride but was in too much pain.

 

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12/6/2025 4:14pm

Hot take: Ralph needs to stfu and retire already and stop cutting your fellow broadcasters off.

At least we didn't have to hear "Lights the candles!" again ...

Not so fast captain 

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Great racing, championship down to the wire.  

Need a British commentator to replace Ralph. A fully American commentary team makes it feel like low rent SMX, a British broadcast lead will bring the world atmosphere this needs.  


Also the broadcast is really dark, open up that aperture boys and girls. 

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"Great racing"

😂

"Championship"

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12/6/2025 5:06pm

That was the worst track I’ve seen in sometime. Dirt Wurx boys truly are magicians. 

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Is Ralph really eating while he calls a race? That's crazy actually

I was actually wondering the same thing myself, haha

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12/6/2025 5:40pm Edited Date/Time 12/6/2025 5:40pm

That was the worst track I’ve seen in sometime. Dirt Wurx boys truly are magicians. 

It looked Seattle but built with less dirt. After the jumps wore down they were just about wheelying through the one rhythm section like they were Daytona rollers.

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Great racing, championship down to the wire.  Need a British commentator to replace Ralph. A fully American commentary team makes it feel like low rent SMX...

Great racing, championship down to the wire.  

Need a British commentator to replace Ralph. A fully American commentary team makes it feel like low rent SMX, a British broadcast lead will bring the world atmosphere this needs.  


Also the broadcast is really dark, open up that aperture boys and girls. 

I thought Tommy and Daniel worked well together. Cut Ralph, make Blair the Play by play and Tommy the analyst. Everyone wins, but Ralph I guess. 

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I'm the first one to complain about the always supper-ruted american supercross track. But if they have only one track on the calendar that is like this and the rest are all different, I don't think it's that bad. It gives a unique character to the track of each country they race in. kind of like we see with outdoor tracks. Also, I think the format makes for interesting races. If a guy pulls away, he is alone in front only for 4-5 laps instead the 15 minutes we sometimes see in the US format.

But it still had me wondering. Could they just not wait for a moment that the dirt is dry where they store it and then cover it with tarps to keep it fresh for next year's racing? Or does it simply never gets dry?

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Points Heading Into the Last Round

SX 1 Points:

21 Jason Anderson 126

17 Joey Savatgy 126

28 Christian Craig 125

94 Ken Roczen 122

29 Henry Miller 65

98 Austin Politelli 62

200 Ryan Breece 59

911 Jordi Tixier 53

88 Devin Simonson 46

20 Gregory Aranda 46

SX2 Points:

99 Max Anstie 175

69 Coty Schock 134

1 Shane McElrath 131

43 Cullin Park 115

16 Enzo Lopes 114

2 Cole Thompson 98

460 Michael Hicks 90

110 Kyle Peters 78

141 Maxime Desprey 69

64 Robbie Wageman 52

11 Kyle Chisholm 51

39 Noah Viney 32

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12/6/2025 7:53pm

I think Mr. Anderson chose Mr. Rock Zenns bike and liked it.

12/6/2025 8:09pm

Not so fast captain 

Yep...sometime after I posted it he snuck one in. Only did it once that I heard though. 

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Nice seeing Anderson and Savatgy racing for wins. They were never my favorite riders, but I do like seeing guys have longer careers and not getting tossed to the side completely at their stages. 

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"El Hombre! El Winner!"

Nailed it, Ralph... Grinning

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12/6/2025 9:42pm
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Should be hard pack with the soil/dirt we have here.

JDub067 wrote:

Can you make it to the race?

Yes, I'll be there with the usual crew.

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dirtcan wrote:
I'm the first one to complain about the always supper-ruted american supercross track. But if they have only one track on the calendar that is like...

I'm the first one to complain about the always supper-ruted american supercross track. But if they have only one track on the calendar that is like this and the rest are all different, I don't think it's that bad. It gives a unique character to the track of each country they race in. kind of like we see with outdoor tracks. Also, I think the format makes for interesting races. If a guy pulls away, he is alone in front only for 4-5 laps instead the 15 minutes we sometimes see in the US format.

But it still had me wondering. Could they just not wait for a moment that the dirt is dry where they store it and then cover it with tarps to keep it fresh for next year's racing? Or does it simply never gets dry?

Im sure the dirt was never stored… and most likely wont ever be. Maybe it will get stored if Stockholm is going to get a ”permanent” wsx round (and somebody gives them a hint about storing it).

Better mix some clay in it then?

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12/7/2025 12:36am Edited Date/Time 12/7/2025 1:23am

Indeed track was unique for this year's WSX, gnarly but it's good to see riders need to adapt to different track and dirt at each round.

Seems it was a well attended round for a last-minute replacement announced 8 weeks ago.

First WSX podium for an electric bike, Hicks got a great race 4/3/4 for 4th OA. Hicks is a class rider, Stark must hang real tight to him cause he's making them look so good. It's still a disaster for Friese and Zaragoza in SX1.

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dirtcan wrote:
I'm the first one to complain about the always supper-ruted american supercross track. But if they have only one track on the calendar that is like...

I'm the first one to complain about the always supper-ruted american supercross track. But if they have only one track on the calendar that is like this and the rest are all different, I don't think it's that bad. It gives a unique character to the track of each country they race in. kind of like we see with outdoor tracks. Also, I think the format makes for interesting races. If a guy pulls away, he is alone in front only for 4-5 laps instead the 15 minutes we sometimes see in the US format.

But it still had me wondering. Could they just not wait for a moment that the dirt is dry where they store it and then cover it with tarps to keep it fresh for next year's racing? Or does it simply never gets dry?

mx691 wrote:
Im sure the dirt was never stored… and most likely wont ever be. Maybe it will get stored if Stockholm is going to get a ”permanent”...

Im sure the dirt was never stored… and most likely wont ever be. Maybe it will get stored if Stockholm is going to get a ”permanent” wsx round (and somebody gives them a hint about storing it).

Better mix some clay in it then?

Not saying the dirt was stored, but Anderson said he did a Swedish SX a few years back and it was the same type of dirt. I liked it for something different and it certainly challenged the riders and teams. 
Just like last week, one track like that per season is a good thing imo.

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12/7/2025 2:20am

Fastest laps of the races 

250 superpole 

51.279 = Enzo Lopes
51.702 = Michael Hicks 
53.601 = Max Anstie
54.743 = Coty Schock 

450 superpole 

50.018 = Joey Savatgy 
50.901 = Christian Craig 
51.635 = Jordi Tixier 
52.303 = Jason Anderson 

250 race 1 

47.543 = Michael Hicks 
48.869 = Shane Mcelrath 
49.022 = Coty Schock 
49.144 = Max Anstie
49.317 = Enzo Lopes
50.513 = Cullin Park
51.020 = Maxime Desprey 
51.037 = Robbie Wageman
51.077 = Cole Thompson
51.572 = Kyle Peters 

450 race 1 

50.030 = Joey Savatgy 
50.628 = Christian Craig 
50.643 = Jason Anderson 
51.060 = Henry Miller
51.369 = Colt Nichols 
52.374 = Jordi Tixier
52.584 = Ryan Breece
52.602 = Austin Politelli 
52.834 = Jorge Zaragoza
53.068 = Gregory Aranda 

250 race 2 

47.871 = Max Anstie
48.446 = Enzo Lopes
48.689 = Michael Hicks 
49.464 = Coty Schock 
49.504 = Cullin Park
49.850 = Shane Mcelrath 
50.174 = Alex Larwood
50.769 = Cole Thompson 
50.796 = Robbie Wageman
51.472 = Maxime Desprey 

450 race 2 

50.042 = Joey Savatgy 
50.440 = Jason Anderson 
51.150 = Chrtistian Craig 
51.605 = Colt Nichols
51.615 = Luke Clout 
52.063 = Jordi Tixier
52.305 = Vince Friese 
52.520 = Austin Politelli
52.865 = Ander Valentin 
53.186 = Ryan Breece 

250 final 

47.552 = Enzo Lopes
48.289 = Coty Schock 
48.843 = Shane Mcelrath 
49.036 = Max Anstie 
49.259 = Cullin Park 
49.309 = Michael Hicks
50.508 = Cole Thompson 
50.531 = Robbie Wageman 
50.724 = Alex Larwood
50.769 = Maxime Desprey 

450 final 

46.927 = Jason Anderson 
47.526 = Joey Savatgy 
48.537 = Chrtistian Craig 
49.209 = Henry Miller 
49.273 = Devin Simonson 
49.440 = Austin Politelli 
49.921 = Luke Clout 
50.028 = Jordi Tixier
50.195 = Colt Nichols 
50.245 = Ander Valentin 
 

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Moto results 

250 race 1 

+0.000 = Max Anstie 
+1.850 = Shane Mcelrath 
+5.314 = Coty Schock 
+6.766 = Michael Hicks 
+12.147 = Cullin Park
+13.888 = Cole Thompson 
+15.147 = Maxime Desprey 
+16.282 = Enzo Lopes 
+18.472 = Robbie Wageman 
+19.328 = Alex Larwood 

450 race 1 

+0.000 = Joey Savatgy 
+3.167 = Jason Anderson 
+4.729 = Christian Craig
+11.270 = Henry Miller
+13.791 = Colt Nichols 
+24.307 = Ryan Breece
+26.807 = Austin Politelli 
+30.013 = Ander Valentin 
+32.683 = Vince Friese
+33.116 = Jorge Zaragoza 

250 race 2 

+0.000 = Max Anstie 
+4.449 = Enzo Lopes
+6.772 = Michael Hicks
+7.124 = Coty Schock 
+9.470 = Cullin Park
+13.799 = Shane Mcelrath 
+16.174 = Alex Larwood
+20.957 = Robbie Wageman 
+25.729 = Cole Thompson 
+27.087 = Kelena Humphrey 

450 race 2 

+0.000 = Jason Anderson 
+1.955 = Joey Savatgy 
+6.550 = Colt Nichols 
+10.432 = Christian Craig 
+11.152 = Jordi Tixier
+13.469 = Ander Valentin 
+14.362 = Vince Friese
+14.506 = Devin Simonson 
+15.696 = Ryan Breece
+18.212 = Jorge Zaragoza 

250 final 

+0.000 = Enzo Lopes 
+0.889 = Shane Mcelrath 
+12.816 = Max Anstie 
+17.938 = Michael Hicks
+19.878 = Robbie Wageman
+22.108 = Maxime Desprey 
+23.471 = Alex Larwood 
+24.083 = Cullin Park
+30.177 = Coty Schock 
+40.085 = Cole Thompson 

450 final 

+0.000 = Jason Anderson 
+2.575 = Joey Savatgy 
+21.750 = Christian Craig 
+28.146 = Henry Miller
+31.993 = Devin Simonson 
+37.425 = Austin Politelli 
+41.105 = Jordi Tixier
+47.354 = Ryan Breece
+48.664 = Ander Valentin 
+49.252 = Vince Friese

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Fastest laps of the races 250 superpole 51.279 = Enzo Lopes51.702 = Michael Hicks 53.601 = Max Anstie54.743 = Coty Schock 450 superpole 50.018 = Joey Savatgy 50.901 = Christian Craig 51.635 =...

Fastest laps of the races 

250 superpole 

51.279 = Enzo Lopes
51.702 = Michael Hicks 
53.601 = Max Anstie
54.743 = Coty Schock 

450 superpole 

50.018 = Joey Savatgy 
50.901 = Christian Craig 
51.635 = Jordi Tixier 
52.303 = Jason Anderson 

250 race 1 

47.543 = Michael Hicks 
48.869 = Shane Mcelrath 
49.022 = Coty Schock 
49.144 = Max Anstie
49.317 = Enzo Lopes
50.513 = Cullin Park
51.020 = Maxime Desprey 
51.037 = Robbie Wageman
51.077 = Cole Thompson
51.572 = Kyle Peters 

450 race 1 

50.030 = Joey Savatgy 
50.628 = Christian Craig 
50.643 = Jason Anderson 
51.060 = Henry Miller
51.369 = Colt Nichols 
52.374 = Jordi Tixier
52.584 = Ryan Breece
52.602 = Austin Politelli 
52.834 = Jorge Zaragoza
53.068 = Gregory Aranda 

250 race 2 

47.871 = Max Anstie
48.446 = Enzo Lopes
48.689 = Michael Hicks 
49.464 = Coty Schock 
49.504 = Cullin Park
49.850 = Shane Mcelrath 
50.174 = Alex Larwood
50.769 = Cole Thompson 
50.796 = Robbie Wageman
51.472 = Maxime Desprey 

450 race 2 

50.042 = Joey Savatgy 
50.440 = Jason Anderson 
51.150 = Chrtistian Craig 
51.605 = Colt Nichols
51.615 = Luke Clout 
52.063 = Jordi Tixier
52.305 = Vince Friese 
52.520 = Austin Politelli
52.865 = Ander Valentin 
53.186 = Ryan Breece 

250 final 

47.552 = Enzo Lopes
48.289 = Coty Schock 
48.843 = Shane Mcelrath 
49.036 = Max Anstie 
49.259 = Cullin Park 
49.309 = Michael Hicks
50.508 = Cole Thompson 
50.531 = Robbie Wageman 
50.724 = Alex Larwood
50.769 = Maxime Desprey 

450 final 

46.927 = Jason Anderson 
47.526 = Joey Savatgy 
48.537 = Chrtistian Craig 
49.209 = Henry Miller 
49.273 = Devin Simonson 
49.440 = Austin Politelli 
49.921 = Luke Clout 
50.028 = Jordi Tixier
50.195 = Colt Nichols 
50.245 = Ander Valentin 
 

Hicks fastest lap in race 1 is something: well over 1s faster than anybody else in that race.

Anecdotally that's also the 3rd fastest lap of the day in any session (Anderson and Savatgy each had one lap faster than this in SX1 3rd race). 

Of course gnarly rutted track, conditions changed every lap, still impressive.

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dirtcan wrote:
I'm the first one to complain about the always supper-ruted american supercross track. But if they have only one track on the calendar that is like...

I'm the first one to complain about the always supper-ruted american supercross track. But if they have only one track on the calendar that is like this and the rest are all different, I don't think it's that bad. It gives a unique character to the track of each country they race in. kind of like we see with outdoor tracks. Also, I think the format makes for interesting races. If a guy pulls away, he is alone in front only for 4-5 laps instead the 15 minutes we sometimes see in the US format.

But it still had me wondering. Could they just not wait for a moment that the dirt is dry where they store it and then cover it with tarps to keep it fresh for next year's racing? Or does it simply never gets dry?

mx691 wrote:
Im sure the dirt was never stored… and most likely wont ever be. Maybe it will get stored if Stockholm is going to get a ”permanent”...

Im sure the dirt was never stored… and most likely wont ever be. Maybe it will get stored if Stockholm is going to get a ”permanent” wsx round (and somebody gives them a hint about storing it).

Better mix some clay in it then?

CPR wrote:
Not saying the dirt was stored, but Anderson said he did a Swedish SX a few years back and it was the same type of dirt...

Not saying the dirt was stored, but Anderson said he did a Swedish SX a few years back and it was the same type of dirt. I liked it for something different and it certainly challenged the riders and teams. 
Just like last week, one track like that per season is a good thing imo.

The dirt was not stored.


The problem here is that it’s early winter and close to freezing. And in the fall it’s constant rain. 

When this race was put together last minute it was already fall and all the dirt you can get your hands on will be wet. 

No swedish fan was impressed over what we just witnessed as the track goes, and sometimes it’s better to just say no if you can’t build a good racetrack. 

 

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12/7/2025 4:03am Edited Date/Time 12/7/2025 4:12am
mx691 wrote:
Im sure the dirt was never stored… and most likely wont ever be. Maybe it will get stored if Stockholm is going to get a ”permanent”...

Im sure the dirt was never stored… and most likely wont ever be. Maybe it will get stored if Stockholm is going to get a ”permanent” wsx round (and somebody gives them a hint about storing it).

Better mix some clay in it then?

CPR wrote:
Not saying the dirt was stored, but Anderson said he did a Swedish SX a few years back and it was the same type of dirt...

Not saying the dirt was stored, but Anderson said he did a Swedish SX a few years back and it was the same type of dirt. I liked it for something different and it certainly challenged the riders and teams. 
Just like last week, one track like that per season is a good thing imo.

Tumic wrote:
The dirt was not stored.The problem here is that it’s early winter and close to freezing. And in the fall it’s constant rain. When this race was...

The dirt was not stored.


The problem here is that it’s early winter and close to freezing. And in the fall it’s constant rain. 

When this race was put together last minute it was already fall and all the dirt you can get your hands on will be wet. 

No swedish fan was impressed over what we just witnessed as the track goes, and sometimes it’s better to just say no if you can’t build a good racetrack. 

 

Not blaiming the organisation.

I know it was a last minute deal and i think it was not superterrible (as a spectator 😅). Just get some clay in that gravel-ish dirt!

About the statement of one round of ”difficult loose gravel-dirt” challenging the riders, im all in, just not happy it will be Sweden all the time! (Wildcard) riders will avoid coming here… if Stockholm is ever getting a WSX event again?


IMG 3815 3.jpeg?VersionId=JmQcHBc

 

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mx691 wrote:
Im sure the dirt was never stored… and most likely wont ever be. Maybe it will get stored if Stockholm is going to get a ”permanent”...

Im sure the dirt was never stored… and most likely wont ever be. Maybe it will get stored if Stockholm is going to get a ”permanent” wsx round (and somebody gives them a hint about storing it).

Better mix some clay in it then?

CPR wrote:
Not saying the dirt was stored, but Anderson said he did a Swedish SX a few years back and it was the same type of dirt...

Not saying the dirt was stored, but Anderson said he did a Swedish SX a few years back and it was the same type of dirt. I liked it for something different and it certainly challenged the riders and teams. 
Just like last week, one track like that per season is a good thing imo.

Tumic wrote:
The dirt was not stored.The problem here is that it’s early winter and close to freezing. And in the fall it’s constant rain. When this race was...

The dirt was not stored.


The problem here is that it’s early winter and close to freezing. And in the fall it’s constant rain. 

When this race was put together last minute it was already fall and all the dirt you can get your hands on will be wet. 

No swedish fan was impressed over what we just witnessed as the track goes, and sometimes it’s better to just say no if you can’t build a good racetrack. 

 

I still think there was nothing wrong with the track. Cookie cutter tracks get boring, good to mix it up.

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CPR wrote:
Not saying the dirt was stored, but Anderson said he did a Swedish SX a few years back and it was the same type of dirt...

Not saying the dirt was stored, but Anderson said he did a Swedish SX a few years back and it was the same type of dirt. I liked it for something different and it certainly challenged the riders and teams. 
Just like last week, one track like that per season is a good thing imo.

Tumic wrote:
The dirt was not stored.The problem here is that it’s early winter and close to freezing. And in the fall it’s constant rain. When this race was...

The dirt was not stored.


The problem here is that it’s early winter and close to freezing. And in the fall it’s constant rain. 

When this race was put together last minute it was already fall and all the dirt you can get your hands on will be wet. 

No swedish fan was impressed over what we just witnessed as the track goes, and sometimes it’s better to just say no if you can’t build a good racetrack. 

 

mx691 wrote:
Not blaiming the organisation.I know it was a last minute deal and i think it was not superterrible (as a spectator 😅). Just get some clay...

Not blaiming the organisation.

I know it was a last minute deal and i think it was not superterrible (as a spectator 😅). Just get some clay in that gravel-ish dirt!

About the statement of one round of ”difficult loose gravel-dirt” challenging the riders, im all in, just not happy it will be Sweden all the time! (Wildcard) riders will avoid coming here… if Stockholm is ever getting a WSX event again?


IMG 3815 3.jpeg?VersionId=JmQcHBc

 

Im fairly sure that it was clay that they mixed in sand and gravel to so they could make it dryer and be able to work with.

99% of the terrain and natural tracks around Stockholm is rock hard clay that get blue grooved during the summer, so I expect that the clay they used last night is the same.

Another problem is that I don’t know when they were allowed to start building the track but it’s obvious it was to late so the dirt never got a chance to settle or dry.


I can accept that a track turn out to be like this in a open stadium if it rains, but in a closed stadium we need to do better from the start.

I also like that some series can face different types of material, like the German SMX race that was held 10? Years ago when they used sand indoors. I could see something like that get implemented in the current three SMX races to brake the mold they are starting to fall in to now.

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Tumic wrote:
Im fairly sure that it was clay that they mixed in sand and gravel to so they could make it dryer and be able to work...

Im fairly sure that it was clay that they mixed in sand and gravel to so they could make it dryer and be able to work with.

99% of the terrain and natural tracks around Stockholm is rock hard clay that get blue grooved during the summer, so I expect that the clay they used last night is the same.

Another problem is that I don’t know when they were allowed to start building the track but it’s obvious it was to late so the dirt never got a chance to settle or dry.


I can accept that a track turn out to be like this in a open stadium if it rains, but in a closed stadium we need to do better from the start.

I also like that some series can face different types of material, like the German SMX race that was held 10? Years ago when they used sand indoors. I could see something like that get implemented in the current three SMX races to brake the mold they are starting to fall in to now.

Dirt last night looked like it came from a winter-road-sanding depot… ☺️ max 10% clay…

As a Sthlm resident im just sad that possible future Sweden SX events will be known as a dont-go-there event because of the always crappy soil.

Im sure for example Craig will think twice… not that i really care…

12/7/2025 8:10am Edited Date/Time 12/7/2025 8:10am
mx691 wrote:
Dirt last night looked like it came from a winter-road-sanding depot… ☺️ max 10% clay…As a Sthlm resident im just sad that possible future Sweden SX...

Dirt last night looked like it came from a winter-road-sanding depot… ☺️ max 10% clay…

As a Sthlm resident im just sad that possible future Sweden SX events will be known as a dont-go-there event because of the always crappy soil.

Im sure for example Craig will think twice… not that i really care…

That's a load....everyone has to race the same conditions. No different than a rainy event or a mud race, or sandy soil. If they want to cry about the conditions they shouldn't be offered the opportunity to race

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CPR wrote:
Not saying the dirt was stored, but Anderson said he did a Swedish SX a few years back and it was the same type of dirt...

Not saying the dirt was stored, but Anderson said he did a Swedish SX a few years back and it was the same type of dirt. I liked it for something different and it certainly challenged the riders and teams. 
Just like last week, one track like that per season is a good thing imo.

Tumic wrote:
The dirt was not stored.The problem here is that it’s early winter and close to freezing. And in the fall it’s constant rain. When this race was...

The dirt was not stored.


The problem here is that it’s early winter and close to freezing. And in the fall it’s constant rain. 

When this race was put together last minute it was already fall and all the dirt you can get your hands on will be wet. 

No swedish fan was impressed over what we just witnessed as the track goes, and sometimes it’s better to just say no if you can’t build a good racetrack. 

 

CPR wrote:

I still think there was nothing wrong with the track. Cookie cutter tracks get boring, good to mix it up.

I agree good to see something a bit different!

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Airway Heights, WA, USA
12/7/2025 9:48am

I thought the track was fine, sure I can find something to critique but perfection is a goal, not an achievement.

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